nmangelfire
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Abortion risks life of mother
Posted: 03-16-08 16:47pm
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A woman who had a terrible time during the
delivery of her first child almost died.
She had MANY blood transfusions and she
and the baby almost lost their lives.
Fortunately the baby lived and after quite
a few grueling months of recovery, the
woman was well enough to take care of her
child. The doctor tells her "if you ever
get pregnant again, you WILL DIE. You will
not be able to carry the child, and you
both will D.I.E".... The woman gets on
birth control and she and her husband use
caution and protection every time they
have intercourse. Lets say the birth
control does not work and OOOPs, she gets
pregnant again. Knowing she will die,
should she try to carry this pregnancy
anyway? Or I.F she was able to carry full
term but chances are 99% that she will
hemmorage and bleed to death, and the baby
lives, the child now has no mother. Can
you pro-lifers actually sit at your
computer, picturing this real life
scenario and tell everyone that this woman
should N.O.T abort? Knowing she and her
child will more than likely not make it?
Or if she is able to carry full term but
she will die and leave the child without a
mother? I knew a woman who went through
this. Like I have said and will keep on
saying, YOU HAVE GOT TO STEP OUT OF THE
BOX AND LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.. Come
on people, seriously....
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Posted: 03-16-08 18:43pm
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Yes they can tell you that, and some will.
Some do not give a damn about the mother
OR the child. They will argue that the
mother should face the consequences, that
she should of abstained from having sex,
that "just because" the mother will die
doesn't mean an innocent life should.
They'll give you countless meaningless
reasons.
I'm pro-choice and situations like this
only help strengthen my beliefs. There are
pro-lifers that will accept an abortion in
a situation like this, however, some will
fight against abortion no matter what the
reason.
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Posted: 03-16-08 22:01pm
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This situation is so clear as day that
it's almost comical - but an extreme
pro-lifer would say differently.
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blessed8888
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I do not believe in abortion but.....
Posted: 03-26-08 15:33pm
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if there's sit beyond your control then
yes but, i did die and i was brought back
and i took a chance my baby is happy and
healthy it all comes down to CHOICE YOURS
not anyone else
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Posted: 03-26-08 18:03pm
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| Reptar
wrote: | Yes they can tell you that,
and some will. Some do not give a damn
about the mother OR the child. They will
argue that the mother should face the
consequences, that she should of abstained
from having sex, that "just because" the
mother will die doesn't mean an innocent
life should. They'll give you countless
meaningless reasons.
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They need to *think* and realize that if
the woman dies, do does the baybee.
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Re: I do not believe in abortion but.....
Posted: 03-26-08 18:06pm
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| blessed8888
wrote: | | if there's sit beyond your
control then yes but, i did die and i was
brought back and i took a chance my baby
is happy and healthy it all comes down to
CHOICE YOURS not anyone
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You died but came back? So, you're Jesus?
I'm glad you're okay and everything, I'd
just like more information.
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Posted: 03-26-08 18:54pm
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She probably means she was pronounced
clinically dead but they successfully
resuscitated her.
Some "prolifers" view women as expendable
breeding fodder and would advocate that
women in that kind of situation martyr
themselves rather than preserve their
lives or health. Fortunately such hateful
troglodytes tend to hole up together in
one place and are easily told apart from
prolifers that are actually...you
know...prolife (instead of only profetal
life even if it's a doomed cause).
It should always be up to the woman
whether the risk is worth taking.
Attempts to force her to endure such risks
is just glorified attempted homicide.
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Posted: 03-26-08 19:12pm
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Obviously; it's definitely the woman's
choice in the case where her health is at
risk.
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Posted: 04-02-08 01:17am
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Some pro-lifers think she shouldn't have
had sex in the first place, as it is only
to be used for procreation.
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Posted: 04-16-08 22:18pm
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| cygnusss
wrote: | | Some pro-lifers think she
shouldn't have had sex in the first place,
as it is only to be used for
procreation. |
What? That's weird. None of the ones I
know believe that. Have you actually met
someone that said that, or are you making
that up???
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Posted: 04-16-08 23:43pm
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| jujujellybean
wrote: | | cygnusss
wrote: | | Some pro-lifers think she
shouldn't have had sex in the first place,
as it is only to be used for
procreation. |
What? That's weird. None of the ones I
know believe that. Have you actually met
someone that said that, or are you making
that up??? |
Goodness yes, several pro-lifers on this
forum feel that sex is only for
procreation.
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Posted: 04-17-08 22:08pm
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| Tylanas
wrote: | | jujujellybean
wrote: | | cygnusss
wrote: | | Some pro-lifers think she
shouldn't have had sex in the first place,
as it is only to be used for
procreation. |
What? That's weird. None of the ones I
know believe that. Have you actually met
someone that said that, or are you making
that up??? |
Goodness yes, several pro-lifers on this
forum feel that sex is only for
procreation. |
Crazy. Huh. Weird. Why???
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Posted: 04-17-08 22:14pm
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| jujujellybean
wrote: | | Tylanas
wrote: | | jujujellybean
wrote: | | cygnusss
wrote: | | Some pro-lifers think she
shouldn't have had sex in the first place,
as it is only to be used for
procreation. |
What? That's weird. None of the ones I
know believe that. Have you actually met
someone that said that, or are you making
that up??? |
Goodness yes, several pro-lifers on this
forum feel that sex is only for
procreation. |
Crazy. Huh. Weird.
Why??? |
Because that's how they've been told to
think. That's how they've been told to
interpret the bible.
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Posted: 04-27-08 18:34pm
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| jujujellybean
wrote: | | Tylanas
wrote: | | jujujellybean
wrote: | | cygnusss
wrote: | | Some pro-lifers think she
shouldn't have had sex in the first place,
as it is only to be used for
procreation. |
What? That's weird. None of the ones I
know believe that. Have you actually met
someone that said that, or are you making
that up??? |
Goodness yes, several pro-lifers on this
forum feel that sex is only for
procreation. |
Crazy. Huh. Weird.
Why??? |
Funny how you just asked us if we've ever
heard of abstinence. Change your mind
much?
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Posted: 05-01-08 23:41pm
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Obviously there shouldn't be any shunning
of a woman who makes the choice to abort
in this situation. I'd like to smack the
doctor who didn't suggest a hysterectomy
though.
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Posted: 05-27-08 12:55pm
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Actually just a little FYI
I hemmoraged after the birth of both kids
although with my daughter it was severe, I
wasnt allowed to hold her much less
allowed to do anything I was told to sleep
and was knocked out at one point. Giving
birth can be just as dangerous as any
surgical proceudre but I think as long as
you are informed and inform the doctor the
chances are better. My son is one hell of
a healthy baby and they gave me oxytocin
right after he came out just in case but
they said it wasnt that bad.
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Posted: 05-27-08 17:16pm
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Giving birth/carrying to full term is
proven to be MORE DANGEROUS than aborting
early-term.
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Posted: 05-27-08 19:05pm
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"I'd like to smack the doctor who didn't
suggest a hysterectomy though. "
That is for sure! If a women was in such a
situation your right the dr should have
suggested tubes tied or a hysterectomy not
bc.
But if that happened it is one of the few
places I would agree with abortion. That
would be up to the women. Me, myself I
would carry the baby and risk it. Even if
I wasn't there it would still have a
loving careing family and maybe a new
mother some day.
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Posted: 05-29-08 08:32am
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| anniek
wrote: | "I'd like to smack the
doctor who didn't suggest a hysterectomy
though. "
That is for sure! If a women was in such a
situation your right the dr should have
suggested tubes tied or a hysterectomy not
bc.
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I am 24 even if you ask to have your tubes
tied they will refuse, they feel I dont
know what I want and after two kids and
many doctors I have been refused. As for
a hysterectomy unless they deem it an
emergency then you are on a waiting list
for months, that is candian health care
but then again we dont pay for nothing.
Quick question if anyone knows, can you
still enjoy sex (orgasm)after a
hysterectomy?
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