Been dumped for a homeless person Posted: 05-05-08 20:27pm
Some history:
The love of my life, let's call her Tina,
and I met in high school during our
sophomore year. She was a seriously
disturbed person, dressed all Goth with
white face paint and black lipstick with
Goth clothes, but the first time I met her
I knew I found my purpose. I saw something
in her eyes that very first time we met
that told me she was hiding under all of
that Goth stuff. We talked a few times,
and she was totally into me. After a few
weeks, I learned some more things about
her, including her being adopted as a
baby, her sexual abuse as a child, and her
occasional visits to psychiatric clinics.
She was/is a cutter, and has Borderline
Personality Disorder with Psychosis, so
she hallucinates at times but knows that
they are hallucinations. Her poor vision
doesn't help that any.
The more I spoke to her and the better I
got to know her, the more I felt a
connection, unlike any other I have felt
with other girlfriends. In fact, she was
100% different than any other girl I had
been with. I got attached to her, she got
attached to me. My past is completely
different from hers, as I have been in a
stable home my whole life.
Well, she had to leave that same school
year to go to Montana. We weren't
officially a couple, so seeing her go
could have been worse. I waited 2 long,
hard years for her return, and not once
did I have any communication from her,
because her parents wanted her to be
completely isolated from the world while
in that behavioral health center. There
were times I thought I would see her, and
would jump out of my skin in excitement,
then quickly recover when I knew it wasn't
her. This happened about once a month.
Then one day, I was just kicking it at the
mall, and there she was. I jumped out of
my skin again, but this time, I didn't
recover because I knew it was her. I ran
up to her, said "hey" and she jumped out
of her skin in excitement! We exchanged
phone numbers, and began chatting again.
After about a month, she told me she had
feelings for me and I was like "well duh
we have feelings for each other". She
asked if I had any girlfriends while she
was gone and I said "of course not", which
was true. Our relationship progressed into
kissing, and I told her that we didn't
have to have sex if she didn't want to and
a month later, we decided to have our
first sex together. It was unreal. It was
a connection I have never had with any
other person, even though I have had sex
with the other 4 girlfriends I had before
her. In fact, all other relationships I
had seemed completely trivial compared to
what I was experiencing. It was perfect in
every sense. I had devoted myself to her
from the first time I met her, and at that
point and time when things started getting
physical, it seemed like the right thing.
It's hard to describe.
Well, another few months went by and we
decided to move into a friend's house so
we could be together. Well, that was good
but bad because that place was stressful
as all heck being in someone else's house.
Well, we stayed there for a little over 3
years, and during that time, the stress
was getting to both of us. She began
acting strangely, and I helped her through
it. She would go up and down with her
instability (as most people with
Borderline do). She would go into these
states of, well, like a dream world, and
her judgment was totally impaired. She had
cheated on me multiple times, but after
doing so, she felt horrified because to
her, it was a bad dream and her brain was
trying desperately to "wake up" . I never
held those incidents against her.
We got married on February 8th, and didn't
even get around to having her name changed
yet. Things were awesome, and she was as
happy as I was.
But then it started to get worse. She
would leave at night and go to the nearby
park where homeless people hang out at
night, and do sexual things with them. Of
course, she was all out of it and again,
horrified each time. We tried so many
different meds and were trying to get her
into a specialized program for Borderline
Personality Disorder. Her runs to the park
then became her reality, and she started
enjoying it and feeling less bad about it
each time.
The real issue here:
3 days ago she met a homeless hispanic
guy. She left to go to her friend's house
and never came home that night. I filed a
missing person report. I was so scared for
her safety, I walked that park until my
feet were totally blistered. I got about 2
hours of sleep the other night, and then
went out and started again. This time, I
came prepared. I brought with me $40 bucks
as payment to any bum who can tell me
where she is and who she's with. Well,
after most of the day of doing that (this
was yesterday), I finally got a solid
lead, that was backed up by another bum's
info, and paid the bum the $40. I almost
never came across this person, because
just before I gave up, completely gave up
and was starting to go home, something
told me to fight the pain of the blisters,
fight the fatigue and hunger, and go the
other end of the park for one last time to
ask around again. This time, a female bum
called me over and told me where she is.
The info was she was staying with a
hispanic bum in one of 3 locations, all of
which are in close proximity. One of 2
motels right next to each other (there
goes my imagination all fired up, thinking
about the awful sexual things going on
without condoms). I drove down there (not
to far from where I live) and began the
investigation again. No luck. I drove
around a few times during different parts
of the day with no luck at all. I gave up,
went to my mom's house, and cried like a
baby to her about what happened, something
I have never done.
Today, after finally getting some food and
sleep, I drove down to those 3 locations.
I drove around for a few hours, and just
as I was about to give up again, something
told me to fight it through. To fight and
fight the hunger, the emotional pain, and
focus on finding her. Well, I turned a
corner to head down the side way to the
apartments (the 3rd location a quarter of
a block away from the motels), and there
they were sitting and smoking cigarettes
(something she hates doing). I slammed on
the brakes while pulling to the curb,
threw it in park, and bailed like a Cop
after a fugitive. I thought this whole
thing was another one of her outrageous
park incidents on steroids (she hasn't had
her meds in about a week), and I called
the cops. They showed up, and asked her
some questions. Now, I could tell she was
all dazed and out of it, and she was
saying things like "I love this man so
much, I need him like I need air and
water", which were things she would say
about me. The cops showed, asked some
questions, and pretty much said "it's her
choice". Well it is, but her judgment is
so screwed. The really horrible thing is
she is repeating exactly what her mother
had done, her real mother, and she is
starting to fade into the same darkness
that her mother went through. What also
scares me is she says he wants her to have
his kid. A homeless man she just barely
met 3 days ago. With her birth control
though, that hopefully won't happen (she
doesn't want kids at all) She isn't doing
any drugs like her mom did, but she is
continuing a cycle I swore an oath to
stop. I had swore a silent oath to her
mother (who died of a stomach infection I
believe, because of heroin), that I would
not let her daughter follow the same
destructive path, but with Tina saying
that she wants a divorce and all that, I
am pretty much unable to change her mind
at this point. At least I know where they
are staying, and she has agreed to keep
her cell phone charged and powered on so I
can check up on her.
After I calmed down, I talked to her,
saying that as before, I would take care
of her. I will be providing her
medications, driving her to doctor visits,
and making DAMN sure she has her birth
control. I will also continue to make sure
she gets her SSI money and make sure her
cell phone bill gets paid. I told her that
even though she may decide to live on the
streets with that bum (although he is a
pretty clean looking bum, and about 25
years old), that I will ALWAYS be there
for her, and she will always have a place
to come to if he gets arrested again (he's
on parole for theft), and that I will not
hook up with another woman. I am 100% for
her, and not interested in anyone else (of
course, if her situation becomes
permanent, I will end up finding someone
else but will always have a big place in
my heart for her. Heck, I waited 2 years
for her before, I could easily do it
again). She told me "you can go ahead and
hook up with someone else" and under her
breath but loudly, as she usually does
when trying to make a point, she said "but
that would break my heart". I can tell she
still has feelings for me, and she knows
how dedicated I am to her, even though she
has cheated, and has ran away with this
homeless dude.
I am hoping that this is one of her crazy
Borderline Personality mess-ups and that
she will come to her senses now that I
have given her the medication she needs,
but for Pete's sake, I hope he doesn't
plant a parasite in her belly.
I feel like utter crap because I have
swore to put as much effort as I can into
taking care of her, and swore to her dead
mother that I would not let her end up on
the streets, and I am feeling like I have
failed. I have NEVER given up, and I NEVER
will. This has been a 7 year mission that
I refuse to give up on. Even if it takes 2
weeks, or 2 months, or 2 years for her
situation to become that of her needing to
live with me, I will wait but at the same
time I will be taking care of her where
she is at and making sure she is clothed,
fed, and has her birth control and meds. I
will NOT find another woman, as my
dedication to her is stronger than that of
wanting to be with someone, in other words
I am not afraid to be alone. Even if she
has his kid and she ends up leaving him or
he goes to prison again, I will take her
back. Sure, it will be the spawn of some
homeless person, but at the same time it
will be half Tina.
Tina has told me on hundreds of occasions
that no matter what happens, she will
always come back to me. We told each other
that our hearts are together for life,
even if we are apart, and I believe it. I
can see in her eyes when she is standing
next to him the same look I saw all those
years ago, that she is lost, trapped in
this shell she has made for herself, and
that she wants out. I'm not trying to
"beat a dead horse" because the horse is
not dead, it is simply trapped in a hole.
It will be up to her to reach up for help,
and I intend to be there as I always have
been when she needs it.
I am not trying to be this "knight in
shining armor" in order to win her back,
and I am not craving her affection or
needing to be "wanted" or "needed" because
taking care of her has been my goal since
the first time we met. Her adoptive
parents have given up on her, her friends
have given up on her, even some counselors
have given up on her. I refuse to give up
like so many others have. I have chosen to
take care of her no matter what, and love
her no matter what, even if she ended up
on the streets. I am doing this not only
for her, but for her mother who right now,
wherever she is, is likely completely
heartbroken. I'm not going to run myself
ragged worrying about her or thinking
about her having sex with another man,
because this is more than about sex. It's
her life I am concerned about. One of the
things I am certainly thankful for is that
she wants my help, and is extremely
thankful for me helping her. She is not
refusing to see me, in fact, she wants to
still have me visit her. I am very glad
that she hasn't gone so far off the deep
end that she doesn't recognize proper help
when she sees it, and that she still wants
to have contact with me.
Sure, this is one wild ride, but it's far
from over and no matter how bumpy, how
high or how low, I have the strength to
hang on. If she decides that she wants to
completely break away from me, with no
communication at all and wants absolutely
nothing to do with me, then I can lay the
matter to rest, ask her mother for
forgiveness, and move on. Until then, I am
always open to her coming back.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-06-08 20:22pm
I really don't know the right words. I
have just always believed that everything
happens for a reason. Yes, this is
hurting you, but making you a stronger
person. This is a strong pattern that she
portrays. Even if she does come back, she
will leave again, again, again, etc - how
will you ever be able to have trust in a
relationship like this. Don't let someone
use your kindness until the next time she
decides to leave. You can't put your life
on hold. It is obvious that she does not
love you, as hard as that may be to hear,
find someone who appreciates you and cut
all ties with her. I know that is very
hard to do when you think you love
someone, but from what I have read, this
is going to happen the rest of your life
unless you cut off all communication with
her. You are a very loving person, and
there is someone out there who needs you
and will respect that. My brother and son
have gone through very serious
relationships that hurt the whole family.
We thought they would never be strong
enough to end them. They finally saw what
we were seeing all along and ended the
relationships, and both are happier now
than I have ever seen them. BE STRONG -
TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS!
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AndrewO
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Posted: 05-06-08 21:25pm
I can't fail her though. I can't let her
fall into that same cycle that her mother
and her mother's mother went through. This
force that is driving me has allowed me to
help her even though she has made some
strange mistakes. I don't want to enable
her, but at the same time, I need to be
there for her. I can't see myself being
with someone, because I would always be
haunted by me leaving her to rot and to
continue the cycle.
Sure, I can simply walk away and sever all
ties, but the thought of where she is, if
she is alive, if she is living on the
streets getting pregnant and giving her
kids up for adoption, just like her mom
and grandma did. She is that someone that
deserves my love, regardless of what
happens.
Like I said, if she decides to sever all
ties then I will have no choice, but I am
not afraid to live a life with her, even
if mistakes happen. I feel that my
strength as a person is being tested not
just for me, but for my commitment to her.
I feel pain, but not weakness. Pain itself
will make me stronger for her. She needs
that. Without that, she will have nothing
to fall back on.
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Questions4u
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Posted: 05-06-08 21:35pm
I think you answered you own problems in
the first few sentences.
"She was a seriously disturbed person"
Yet you're surprised and phased by the
fact that she left you for a homeless man?
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-06-08 21:44pm
You are not failing her, she is choosing
this lifestyle. It appears she is already
in that cycle and no one can help her, but
herself. SHE is going to have to make
that decision. Again, you are not leaving
her to rot, she chose to leave you. With
the lifestyle she is living, she could
already be pregnant, have STD's, HIV/Aids
etc. etc. It sounds like you have done
everything you can to help her and she
refuses. I do not believe she will ever
sever all ties, who would, she knows you
will always be there to help her out. One
day, sure she will show up when she needs
something, then she will break your heart
again. Believe me, I have seen this over
and over and over again. It breaks my
heart because of what you are going
through. There is no pain like a broken
heart. I agree, you are a strong person
and will only become stronger because of
what you are going through. I just want
you to be happy and find someone who will
share the same love for you that you are
willing to give. How old are you?
I hope one day you can find closure either
her coming back or you moving on. If she
comes back this may happen again, can you
emotionally hand that? Would it be better
to lay the issue to rest and help
yourself?
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Questions4u
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Posted: 05-07-08 08:37am
the intelligent thing to do would be
moving on without looking back...or you
may want to ask yourself what's wrong with
you as well. its pretty disturbing that a
person would leave someone else to be with
a homeless person and live that
lifestyle......but what does it say for
the person that wants to still be with a
disturbed person who left them for a
homeless person?
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Beline
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Posted: 05-07-08 16:05pm
Andrew, I implore you not to pay any
attention to any negative input. You came
here to vent and to get some support and
advice. Eeyore, Sinniebunny and I will try
and help you as far as we can.
I believe she is acting this way because
her medication is failing her, and not you
as her devoted husband. Maybe if she takes
her medication again she will have a
moment of clarity, and will come back to
you. Should this happen, you will be able
to take her back to the doctor and just
explain what happened. I’m sure he will
be able to prescribe new medication.
You are an amazing person whom loves
unconditionally, and that is admirable. I
think her mother is very grateful that
your paths crossed, and I’m sure that
she understands what both you and her
daughter is going through at the moment.
But I’m glad that you don’t see this
as a binding promise. You can do what you
can, and no more. If she doesn’t come
back, don’t feel obliged to take care of
her because of what you promised her
mother.
Whenever I post a reply I always try to
put myself in the original poster’s
shoes, and to tell you the honest to God
truth: I can’t even fathom what you are
going through at the moment. There are no
guarantees that she will come back, and if
she does, there are no guarantees that she
will stay.
Good luck.
You are in my prayers.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-07-08 17:19pm
Beline is exactly right in her comments.
Just take care of yourself. As the saying
goes, life experiences make you stronger,
but in some cases, it also could cause you
to become severly depressed/anxious
without you even realizing it until it
happens. You have to take care of
yourself first. As Beline said, we can't
even imagine what you are going through.
But..............we are trying and hope
our words can help and do not hurt. As
you have said, this seems to be an
inheritated pattern she has, so it is
going to be rough for her to overcome, if
ever. I admire you for all you have done
and again, my heart goes out to you.
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AndrewO
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Posted: 05-07-08 18:28pm
eeyore46
wrote:
How old are
you?
22. I have been through 5 girlfriends
before her, 3 of which were either
starting to get serious or were serious. I
am not totally inexperienced or anything
and I have paid very close attention to my
friend's and family's relationships and
learned from their mistakes, and sure, I
have a long life ahead of me, but this
commitment is not only stronger than that
of being with a girlfriend, but it's kid
of different. Almost a different context.
On top of what is going on, it turns out
that she now has Melanoma, and she is at
the hospital getting it checked out.
Yeah as I said before, this experience
won't make me give up, and I am not going
to, but the pain of it all has
strengthened me time and time again. The
more things that happen, the more I learn
and the better I help her. This is just
one of those cases where I have to stick
my commitment, even though the
circumstances have her on the streets.
As for STD's/HIV, it wouldn't bother me if
we didn't have sex or were forced to use
condoms. What would bother me is the
illnesses themselves, and I would do my
damnedest to see that she gets proper
medical care for it. Her mother died
because of lack of medical care, as did
her grandmother, because of their living
situation. As long as I do what I can to
be sure she is medically taken care of
(like giver her a ride to the hospital
when needed, make sure her prescriptions
are filled, etc).
If they decide to try and get an apartment
with the SSI money she has ($600 a month,
not much at all), I will help her out as
much as I can financially. I don't care if
she is living with another man in that
situation, I just want to be sure she is
taken care of.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-07-08 19:02pm
Yes, you have to do what you feel is
right. Nobody can change your feelings at
this point. I hope that things work out
for you, but don't forget about YOUR
health and finances along the way. I know
you promised her mother that you would
take care of her, but think of YOUR mother
and what she is going through right now.
Again, take care and keep in touch with
the forum.
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AndrewO
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Posted: 05-07-08 21:04pm
eeyore46
wrote:
I know you promised her
mother that you would take care of her,
but think of YOUR mother and what she is
going through right
now.
My mother, who is still alive, is worried
sick about her as well. My mom had really
come to like Tina, and everyone in my
family have long since accepted Tina as
family, so everyone is concerned. My mom
has been telling me to eat more, but for
some reason I can't. I sleep OK (between 6
and 7 hours a night), but I can't seem to
eat more than like a few handfuls of
breakfast cereal a day, but I do drink
water. For some reason, I feel the hunger,
but I can't eat. Either I start to eat and
gag, or I just don't have the urge to eat.
My tummy is killing me but my brain won't
let me eat.
Hey, at least I am eating something, even
if it's just a few handfuls of cereal.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-07-08 22:34pm
Continue to eat what you can and drink a
lot of water. Remember, you are no good
to Tina if YOU are not well. Are you
employed or going to school? Try and keep
up with your normal schedule and take care
of yourself, and keep in close touch with
your mother. As a mother, my children's
health is the most important thing to me!
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Beline
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Posted: 05-08-08 03:32am
Andrew, I want to strongly suggest that
you go see a doctor. The fact that you
can’t eat has a lot to do with your
nerves. This will manifest in other health
problems too, and as Eeyore said: you
can’t take care of Tina if you’re not
taking care of yourself.
Let him prescribe something to calm your
nerves. Good luck to you.
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AndrewO
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Posted: 05-08-08 03:40am
Beline
wrote:
Andrew, I want to strongly
suggest that you go see a doctor. The fact
that you can’t eat has a lot to do with
your nerves. This will manifest in other
health problems too, and as Eeyore said:
you can’t take care of Tina if you’re
not taking care of yourself.
Let him prescribe something to calm your
nerves. Good luck to
you.
I ended up self-medicating with some
movies and music. Blasted some Disturbed,
Godsmack, Rage Against the Machine and
watched Wild Hogs, There Will Be Blood,
and a couple of episodes of House. I was
able to eat some chicken and I've got my
old swagger back, but I know it is only a
band-aid when what I need is a hard cast.
If I continue to not be able to eat
tomorrow, I will see my doctor.
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Beline
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Posted: 05-08-08 04:01am
The good news is that you are going
through the normal ‘grieving
procedure’. The bad news is it sucks to
feel that way. I’m sorry that you are
going through this. I wish there was
something I could do for you other than
praying. I’m just glad that you are
going to see a doctor though. See if you
can take a multi vitamin in the meantime.
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Posted: 05-08-08 07:46am
Ok, I didn't even read the last 3
paragraphs but NO WAY! Are you nuts? Do
you honestly want to live the rest of your
life like this? I don't understand. . .
That's just insane. To me it sounds like
she does have a lot of issues that need to
be dealt with but it also sounds like she
is using these illnesses as an excuse to
cheat on you. Are you supposed to wait for
her in the shadows while she is off on her
escapades? Having sex with people she just
met days before and possibly not using a
condom? Another thing, if she had not been
taking her meds for her illnesses, she
most likely was also not taking her bc
pills. You and her are both at risk for
STD's and thats nothing to play with. She
sounds like she needs more help than you
can give her. I know you silently promised
her mother you would not allow her to
follow in her footsteps but this is
something that is way out of your control.
By doing all those things for her while
she is out with a bum who she says she
wants to have a child with, to me that is
enabling her to keep doing what she has
been. Are you supposed to continue hurting
for your whole life and be unhappy? Think
about it. She is ultimately NOT your
responsibility and you can only do so
much. What she does is her choice. I'm
pretty sure she can go get help and she is
choosing not to do that, but choosing to
put you through grief.
I may sound harsh, and that is not my
intention at all. I am very sorry she and
you have to go through this. I hope she
gets the help she needs and if not, I hope
you can let go. Good luck to you!
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Questions4u
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Posted: 05-08-08 07:54am
well said Willa...my thoughts exactly.
he's equally disturbed if he gives this a
second thought.
grow some, and move on........
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Posted: 05-08-08 18:23pm
We do not know what the future holds for
any of us, just take care and follow
through with what you believe to be the
right decision. You are young, time will
tell you what to do, and until then, take
care of yourself. It also sounds like you
have a supportive family to help you out,
that is very important right now.
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Beline
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Posted: 05-10-08 11:58am
Give us an update, Andrew. How are you
doing? Is Tina okay? Melanoma could be
serious. And have you been to the doctor
yet?
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