Blood Sugar and Glucose Levels Posted: 04-21-08 17:25pm
Can anyone explain the difference in blood
sugar levels and glucose levels? My blood
work (fasting) showed my blood sugar to be
50 and my glucose was normal. Also, do
the glucose monitors check your blood
sugar level OR glucose level?
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Stan
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Posted: 04-21-08 21:35pm
As far as I know it's the same thing?
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Posted: 04-25-08 18:59pm
It is the same thing as far as I
know...it's the glucose in your blood that
you blood machine is measuring.
50 (I assume mg/dl) is, IMO, too low for a
normal person. If you have blood sugar
problems you want to take action at
50mg/dl.
I'm surprised this has been said to be
'normal'...
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Posted: 04-26-08 00:11am
I was told I was hypoglycemic when my
blood test came back at 50. I have been
to several doctors, none seem too
concerned. One doctor even told me that
he did not believe in hypoglycemia. I did
buy a monitor, and for approximatley a
year, i always tested between 70-90.
Recently, my level has been as high as
144. Don't really know what is going on,
and can't seem to find a doctor who is
really concerned about it.
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Posted: 04-26-08 03:58am
eeyore46
wrote:
I was told I was
hypoglycemic when my blood test came back
at 50. I have been to several doctors,
none seem too concerned. One doctor even
told me that he did not believe in
hypoglycemia. I did buy a monitor, and
for approximatley a year, i always tested
between 70-90. Recently, my level has
been as high as 144. Don't really know
what is going on, and can't seem to find a
doctor who is really concerned about
it.
I'm not sure how the health system works
over there (I'm in the UK) but keep
pushing it until something is done, see
different doctors until one pulls their
finger out.
Have you actually been diagnosed with
hypoglycemia? Have you had the 72 hour
fast? Has anyone checked for insulinoma?
I'm very surprised they're not concerned.
Unless it's because you're blood sugars
are better now than they were(?). Is the
144mg reading a recent fasting one?
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eeyore46
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Posted: 04-26-08 22:38pm
No, the 144 was not fasting - it was on my
home monitor. I have not had a GTT - 72
hour fast test. I am not familiar with
insulinoma? The blood sugar level of 50
was fasting and from a normal CBC blood
test. I was told I was hypoglycemic, due
to the blood sugar level of 50, no bid
deal, just watch my diet! I continue to
feel weak, have depression/anxiety,
insomnia, etc. I have always been very
healthy, mentally/physically until
recently. After two years of this, I had
to quit my job last November, I do not
drive any longer, and I am so weak it is
just a struggle to leave my home. I am
desperate - I am seeking an acupuncture
therapist now for the
anxiety/depression/insomnia/weakness, etc.
I am currently in the process of seeking
an endocrinolgist. I have been to medical
doctors, internists, and psychiatrists -
nothing has helped. This is so foreign to
me - out of character - and consuming my
life. I do not know if it is
hypoglycemia, diabetes, etc. but my family
and I need relief from these debilitating
symptoms.
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Posted: 04-27-08 04:53am
Do you still have a home glucose monitor?
Check your blood sugar when you get up in
the morning, before breakfast, let me know
what it is out of curiosity
An endocrinologist will (should) request
the 72 hour fast as a first step, so the
sooner you find one the better. It sounds
like you have fasting hypoglycemia which
needs attention urgently.
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Posted: 04-27-08 21:02pm
Okay, I will - I randomly check it during
the day, and it is usually between 70-90.
I will check it upon waking in the morning
and let you know. Thank you so much for
taking an interest. What is the
difference between fasting hypoglycemia
and hypoglemcia? Would this cause my
severe fatigue/anxiety/depression?
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Posted: 04-28-08 00:40am
You're welcome!
Hypoglycemia tends to fall into two types
- fasting hypoglycemia, and reactive
hypoglycemia. With reactive, blood sugar
will fall low about 2-3 hours after eating
a meal rich in sugar/carbohydrate. The 3
day fasting test should be negative for
people with this type. But with fasting,
blood sugar falls on fasting. This is IMO
a lot more serious, although less common,
and needs to be diagnosed asap.
Various conditions can cause either form,
so the cause needs to be investigated.
I seem to get similar symptoms, especially
fatigue and brain fog for days at a time.
For me, this is worse than low blood sugar
spells. I think it can be caused by the
hypoglycemia, which was my own question on
this board "diagnosed hypoglycemia". I'm
not sure so maybe someone else can confirm
that...
There's tones of information on the
internet about symptoms and the difference
in types of hypoglycemia, do a little
research. But bare in mind there's some
conflicting information about so don't
take it all for fact - and keep at those
doctors
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Posted: 04-29-08 07:44am
I discovered I was Hypoglycemic about 6
years ago, and saw dramatic health
improvements after I changed my diet. I
never had a glucose test. From what I'd
read, they aren't always accurate. One
reason is that doctors - assuming you can
find one who "believes" in Hypoglycemia
and is willing to administer it - tend to
cut it short after 3 hours, compromising
the results.
My advice? Don't get hung up on the
doctors and tests. Just follow a very
strict Hypoglycemic diet for 2-3 weeks and
see how you feel. If you're truly
Hypoglycemic, you'll feel much better, and
then you'll know. that's the only
sure-fire way to diagnose, imo. Doctors
are great for some things, but when it
comes to low blood sugar they're more or
less useless. The way I see it, if they
can't give you a pill for it, they're not
interested. I've actually had a doctor
roll his eyes at me when I told him I was
Hypoglycemic. It's unbelievable really,
and very sad, because there are SO many
people who are suffering and don't know
why.
Lots of luck with this - I've been there
and I know how frustrating it can be!
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Posted: 04-29-08 08:08am
I think you should still go down the
doctor route, as frustrating as it can be.
Once you get to see an endocrinologist
you're well on your way. It took me about
5 years to find someone who knew about
hypoglycemia, but it was well worth it.
Thing is, if you have reactive
hypoglycemia there's not much a doctor can
do but prescribe a good diet for the
condition, which would get you back on
track. But if you have fasting
hypoglycemia, it could be more than diet
related - the cause needs to be
investigated. A patient may have an
insulinoma which needs attention, so to
give up on doctors would be foolish and
dangerous. The underlying cause needs to
be found.
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Posted: 05-01-08 14:09pm
[I have been going thru the same thing!!!
Cannot drive, dizzy drunk like feeling.
ITS HORRIBLE!
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TaiJag
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Posted: 05-01-08 14:16pm
I have been so so many Doctors who say
everything is perfect and I feel horrible.
I must be paying for years and years and
years of abusing my body with carbs! I am
definately Hypoglycemic. I did the 5 hour
test. The numbers jumped to 196 and then
dropped like a rock to 45. I had to lay
down the last couple of hours. Some days
I feel OK but not perfect and other days
HORRIBLE! Today is day 49 on a strict hypo
diet and I still feel horrible. I did
notice a couple symptoms did go away such
as the internal tremors. I also had pretty
bad numbness or neoropathy in my left
arm/hand and that has subsided. The whole
head & neck drunk like feeling and
dizzy is very frustrating tho. I never
know how bad Im going to feel from one day
to the next. I cant plan anything, I cant
drive. All I can do is eat a proper diet
and suffer it out! UGH!
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-23-08 23:25pm
I am sorry I have not replied recently - I
have been referred to my MD to an
endocrinologist. I should have an
appointment next week or early the next
week. I just feel terrible all of the
time. I really don't know what I should
or should not eat. I don't even know if I
have hypoglycemia, since the doctors I
have been to always seem to dismisss that
issue when I tell them how I feel. I just
took my blood sugar level after eating a
turkey sandwich/white bread and is is 82.
I normally test between 70 - 90. ONCE, I
did test 144 and was shocked. I do not
know what the normal blood levels are.
Is 82 okay? Hopefully, the
endocrinologist will be able to help me.
I hope it is not hypoglycemia or diabetes,
I just know something is not right with
me. I feel so sorry for my family. I do
not drive, quit my job after 14 years,
have severe fatigue/anxiety/depression/
insomnia and stay in the bed most of the
time. My daughter just graduated from
college, so proud, but didn't know if I
could even attend the ceremony. I am 46
and my husband had to hold my hand, and
help me through the auditorium because I
was so sick and felt so weak, but I DID
IT!!!!!
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Posted: 05-24-08 00:41am
Read my diet thread on this forum (it's
stickied near the top below the doctor
questions). 82 is normal, and 70 is not
low either. It does, however, sometimes
depend on how quickly the blood sugar
drops. 144 is considered just above the
line into pre-diabetes, so it seems you
may have something going on.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-24-08 02:00am
Well.......it sounds like I am okay then
when it comes to blood sugar. I thought
70-90 was a bit low. When I was diagnosed
with this it was 50 fasting, but since
that time with a home monitor, I am always
between 70-90.
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Posted: 05-24-08 04:19am
It may have been a temporary condition, it
happens
As long as your blood sugars are ok now.
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Posted: 05-24-08 09:27am
Don't be afraid that you're crazy or
something, however. I myself was cleared
for blood sugar problems a few weeks ago,
and the doctors now have rested on the
possibility that I either have 1. a
really, really rare form of Type I
diabetes that starts out like this (just
keep eating right and I don't have to
worry), 2. a really sensitive pancreas or
3. a rare metabolic condition where my
body is having trouble processing some
sort of protein or such that is common to
starchy foods and simple sugars. I'm fine
now, so it's really not worth the money
trying to figure it out because there
won't be anything I can do to fix it
anyway, just need to eat right, and that's
what everyone should be doing. At any
rate, I did have low readings for awhile
there. I either corrected the condition,
or the condition was related to one of
those three factors I just mentioned. You
still could have something happening.
Keep tracking your sugar, making sure to
check 1.5 hours after eating for the best
results. You should do that in the
morning after eating and before going to
bed to see what's happening.
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eeyore46
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Posted: 05-24-08 19:27pm
Thanks for the reply, hopefully, the
endocrinologist will come up with
something. I really don't understand why
I am B-12 deficient on some test, and
others it is fine. Now, it seems my liver
enzymes are up a bit as well. Again,
thanks for the reply.
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Posted: 05-25-08 12:52pm
eeyore46
wrote:
No, the 144 was not fasting
- it was on my home monitor. I have not
had a GTT - 72 hour fast test. I am not
familiar with insulinoma? The blood sugar
level of 50 was fasting and from a normal
CBC blood test. I was told I was
hypoglycemic, due to the blood sugar level
of 50, no bid deal, just watch my diet! I
continue to feel weak, have
depression/anxiety, insomnia, etc. I have
always been very healthy,
mentally/physically until recently. After
two years of this, I had to quit my job
last November, I do not drive any longer,
and I am so weak it is just a struggle to
leave my home. I am desperate - I am
seeking an acupuncture therapist now for
the anxiety/depression/insomnia/weakness,
etc. I am currently in the process of
seeking an endocrinolgist. I have been to
medical doctors, internists, and
psychiatrists - nothing has helped. This
is so foreign to me - out of character -
and consuming my life. I do not know if
it is hypoglycemia, diabetes, etc. but my
family and I need relief from these
debilitating
symptoms.
You really need a 72 hour GTT. That is
the next logical step. You have to rule
out an insulin producing tumor in your
pancreas. It does happen and it very easy
to remove. Some can be teeny tiny and
cause problems. The Endo at Mayo clinic
said if you test and get 50 for a reading,
you need that 72 hour test. 50 is NOT
normal. It should never drop below 70.
DO NOT let them give you the C Peptide
test until they have done the 72 hour test
first. It is a 3 day stay at a hospital.
The C Peptide test which will confirm a
small tumor in the pancreas is very
dangerous and should be supervised by your
doctor. They will then do a quick non
invasive surgery with a tube, camera and
clippers to remove the tumor. Or it could
just be your diet which you can fix in
60-90 days. It takes a little while but
can be fixed.