hi, im 17 years old and i have recently
had my braces taken off. i noticed i had
tmj about 3 quarters of the way through
the braces process when my jaw would crack
and pop so loud that people could hear it
from the other side of the table when i
ate anything. I know for certain that i
have TMJ as iv done alot of my own
research.
ocasionaly ill get ringing in the ears and
i had some pretty bad headaches but the
headaches have sort of passed.
My question is, lately iv been getting
Head-pains and eye floaters. i know the
floaters are normal because i only get
them when looking at something bright
outdoors but i never used to get them and
i get quite a few now. (also the
head-pains are in the top,back,left) part
of my head. im not sure if its because of
the tmj or not but if you follow a line
from my jaw to the top of my head on the
left side thats where i get the pain.
sometimes it will be on th right side as
well.
please send me replys if you think this is
normal
thank you.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-11-08 16:22pm
for a tmj patient yes this is normal. i
thihk that you should get yourself into a
neuromuscular dentis. im sure that the
cause of this is the braces. your muscles
are now out of sync with the muscles. you
should get in as soon as you can. if you
need help finding one let me kno ---i can
help you with that.
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Posted: 03-11-08 16:26pm
The same thing happened to me back when I
had braces! It still bothers me to this
day, although luckily it's not TOO
frequently. Sometimes my jaw locks up so
bad it makes it hard to eat.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-11-08 16:28pm
i had braces to "fix the tmd" well that
was a joke--just made it worse:(
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2bbalza
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Posted: 03-12-08 08:38am
thats good you think its because of my tmj
because i couldnt seem to find a reason
for the headpains/headaches everysingle
day for past 5-6 weeks...i was turning
into a hypocondriac searching the web
everyday thinking it was a tumor or
something like that even though i knew it
probably wasnt because the doctor did a
minor physical test and said he didnt at
all think it was seriouse even though the
pain can make me think its something
serious...i never had any nausia or
vomiting because of it or seizures or
anything like that so im assuming its
because of the tmj as well
as far as finding me a proper dentist i
live in New Brunswick Canada so i dont
know if you would be able to find one.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-12-08 12:33pm
yeah I can come up with something------ive
done it before. and if i cant find it i
know someone who can. hang on and ill pm
you the doctor:)
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2bbalza
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Posted: 03-13-08 06:21am
that would be good. But are you sure the
headpains are from TMJ. because for some
reason i have turned myself into a
complete hypocondriac and i keep thinking
that its a tumor in my brain. The
headaches dont usualy star oppon awakening
and the head pains are usualy pretty mild.
But when i do get the headaches they can
be kind of intence bu never last more then
a minute or so and they happen around
twice a day. I also have the ear pressure
sometimes. and sometimes have ringing. and
the eye floaters while outside are really
anoying. what do you think?
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-13-08 12:43pm
absolutly they are from the tmd. tmd gives
you what is called referred pain. it can
make you feel like you are having a ear
infection adn your ears are fine.
toothaches, headaches etc. dont worry
about a tumor. its more than likely your
jaw telling your body that it hurts
---heck i even have one side of my jaw
that referrs pain to the other side. mean
ole jaw lol:)
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2bbalza
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Posted: 03-15-08 09:22am
alright im not so much worried about a
tumor anymore..but i do think that the
cause could be Neuralgia Inducing
Cavitational Osteonecrosis. also known as
NICO. do you think thats it? the only
reason i think this is because it says the
area of the pain is directly over the the
jaw which is where my pain is.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-16-08 17:42pm
it could very well be--- but before saying
that it is that have your doctor test you
for it. it could just be a case of tmd.
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trustsomeone
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are you relieved or still chronic pain? I've had TMJ for 18 year Posted: 03-17-08 09:17am
Hi, just thought I might ease your stress
thru my experiences. As you prob. already
know, the easing of stress is extremely
helpful in itself. First, if you are still
having probs, or vomit, vertigo, funky eye
stuff, tell your doctor, that you need an
mri, to rule your fears out for tumor,
etc. It will more than likely be fine,
since you know you have tmj. TMJ, I used
to want to chop my head off, at the
beginning, especially since I got it from
getting my wisdom teeth out, and had a
newborn then they found out all I needed
was root canal. So, for 18 years, i've
managed with my tmj. After being bopped
around from doc to doc...you prob. know
the routine! There are some good doctors
out there, you just have to find one you
trust, and you will be almost instantly
feeling better-the mind relaxed will do
wonders, especially since TMJ is really
not something that gets better. In some
cases, they can do surgery, but even in my
case, they come out feeling as good as I
do now, so I really did "learn to live
with it", and you actually do forget you
have it. Recently, I went to doctors (last
month) because I had bad vertigo, and
passed out while vomiting. This has never
happened to me because of TMJ, but the ENT
thought this was the cause-I forgot all
about my TMJ, so possibly a flair up, but
then on 2nd visit had some congestion, now
I've just finished a series of
antibiotics, that only made me tired, but
a low dose of valium just at night has
helped my neck tremendously. I am
continuing to go to all doctors, to make
sure I am feeling the best that I can. My
blood work came up positive for Epstein
Bar, which explains why I am always so
tired, again, another one can't do
anything about.So, my plan is to keep
moving, rest when I can, and continue to
find answers...chiropractor was a big help
for my overall alignment, and a hot tub. I
plan to revisit the chiro, now with my new
symptoms, and inquire about my neck that
cracks so much and so loud, during the
night, I roll over and my whole body is
like moving a breaking skeleton, so my
newest question, as I am only 45 years
old, why do I have this arthritis- I was
told it is arthritis, but why is my
question..for years I asked could i have
arthritis, I am sooo achy, and the docs
said no. I know young people can have it,
...anyway, i hope some of my experience
helps you, and please share any thoughts
you have, too. I have been really
lightheaded and dizzy with a backache
since December, and missing a lot of
work-no sick days, either, going to gyno
tomorrow, then will ask to go to
neurologist, want to cover all bases!!
trying not to be a hypochondriac; just
want to feel good!
dm.
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trustsomeone
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forgot to say I also used to have migraines at least a few times Posted: 03-17-08 09:23am
a week, when I first got the tmj--it
really does get better, once you take
antiinflamortories, to calm it down. I
hate taking meds, so I just took
doctor-recomended dose of advil (more than
the usual amount), and then I was so happy
after a few months when I could actually
get a normal headache without a migraine!
YOu will get to know your body more each
day, and know what you need to do, and
share your thoughts with the doctor you
trust. they will be more tahn happy to
work with you if you are seeing a good
doctor. don't let them brush you off, you
are in pain and scared and want some
answers. Ask them even what they are
thinking even if he or she does not know
the "answer".
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2bbalza
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Posted: 03-19-08 15:48pm
first off id like to say its really
chilled of all of you to take the time to
actully try and comfort a teenage guy with
his health concerns and i appreciate it.
As far as being afraid of a "tumor" i
think i was letting my mind get to be and
most deffinatly my paranoia seeing as its
been 7 weeks and i havnt had a single
other symptom other then head pains and
occasional pain in my eye or neck. and
sometimes ringing in the ear that is quite
mild and lasts a matter of seconds. I
think if it were a tumor i would at least
have seen another symptom or at least be
sick or something. Although my mom is
going to try and get me an MRI for the
heck of it because id like to see if there
is something else goin on which there
probably isnt. the pains however feel like
little shocks of pain in different areas
all over the top of my head and i usualy
just rub them and forget about it now.
sometimes i get pressure in the back of my
head though which can concern me. and i
get eye floaters too which i never had.
but i never really get to dizzy and i have
yet to throw up
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-19-08 18:22pm
hey thats what we are here for. Ive been
through all of this and i know what it
feels like to be going through it. that is
why im here. beleive me you dont want to
throw up with this.
and mri is a good plan. let us know what
happens---and hang in there it will get
better
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trustsomeone
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checking in on you Posted: 03-19-08 23:17pm
the more I reread your concerns, I know we
don't like to think that we are stressed,
and that we can remain "cool" at all
times, but when you are in pain, you are
really under quite a bit of stress, which
makes TMJ so much worse. I would not
hesitate, to ask the doctor for first
steroids for a week, and a low dose of the
valium or something that you and he feels
may work, even try one and see if you are
comfortable. I personally hate being on
meds, and they used to prescribe me some
anti-inflamatorythat I didn't feel
helped,but everyone's body reacts
differently. It really does all sound like
Stress and TMJ. When you get to an ENT or
a dentist, they will look at your teeth,
and know that you are probably doing a
number on them! You prob. grind at nite or
at least clench, even during the day, when
you are agitated, etc.-happens to the
calmest of us! My advice, is speak your
words to those who frustrate you, but in a
respectful stern way, I don't know you,
but I am trying to help any situation that
may really help!, and what I am trying to
say is, relieve all stress that you can,
take time to be "17", the world is to be
enjoyed, and try really hard to read or do
something each day for yourself that you
don't "have" to do so that you relax or at
least are not thinking about your health.
take deep breaths, and the meds will
eventually will not be needed, maybe even
in 2-3 weeks, if you are doing relaxing
things, and having trusting doctor(s)
assure you of no major problems. I too
have the eye floaters, weird, huh? they
come with many things as well, but with
the tinnitus, it really does sound like
stress and TMJ. Did I tell you don't bite
into a whole apple or hard candy like ever
again??
do not chew gum, or any chewy stuff; I can
at times eat a cheesesteak, now, but it
makes my jaw ache. You need to help
yourself get better and then you will get
lax and have a piece of gum here and
there, or whatever but you may see that it
aggravates and not want it. But in the
beginning, you really need to not eat that
stuff. Oh, and go to the eye doctor for
your checkup; they will make you feel
better about your floaters, too, and they
can actually tell soooo much from the
exam. My husband was floored when he was
getting his eye exam when the eye doctor
asked him how he was doing with his high
cholestorol! He aske dhow he knew, and he
said he sees a whiteness indicating this.
And they now have a really advanced test
that can see just about anything! kit, and
good luck, enjoy some friends, and chill.
trustsomeone
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trustsomeone
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also, give a call to your orthodontist for verbal Posted: 03-19-08 23:26pm
Remember, your whole bite was changed, as
well as your jaw configuration,
apparently, and this will take some time
to get used to. It is so frustrating
getting used to a new bite, and your teeth
and jaw are like looking for a comfort
zone. So if teeth are now hitting in
different spots, this all puts pressure on
your Temporal mandibular joint! I know you
may prob. be finally enjoying chewy stuff
again, but you can't with tmj.
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2bbalza
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Posted: 03-20-08 09:43am
i was wondering if you guys knew about
megnessium pills to help treat the nerves
and mucsles?? i read alot about them on
this site and apparently they work. i
bought a case of meg pills last night and
each pill contains 225 mgs and it says
take one daily..i was wondering if taking
two daily would harm me or just make it
work faster, my mom says your suposed to
take them everyday for 3 weeks before they
begin to work
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 03-20-08 12:32pm
yeah get on the magnesium. its great. it
may take awhile to get into your system
but if you dont start it---well you get
the picture
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Magnesium Posted: 03-20-08 14:57pm
Hi 2bbalza,
Start out taking one 225/250 mg pill per
day for a week or two. You can then
increase the Magnesium to 500 mg a day,
both taken at night before going to sleep.
It can cause diarrhea, which is why you
start out slowly so your body can adjust
to it. I have read that you can take up
to 1000 mg per day, but 500 mg helps me
just fine.