HIV test after 3 months ? Posted: 07-19-08 15:59pm
ok i just read on here that 3 months is
long enough to wait for on hiv test. is
that true or not because i got tested 3
and a half months after my last possible
exposure and my doctor still told me to
come back in another 3 months. is the 6
month test just to be safe or is it
possible to still test positive even after
3 months?
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Unknown88 Posted: 07-20-08 14:32pm
Two tests are recommended. One taken at
three months mark. The doctor catches 98%
of the people who are positive on the
first test. There is a two percent that
don't show up positive until after six
months. They are called slow progressors.
They are capable of spreading the virus.
For somebody who has turned positive, then
they are positive. For a person who turns
negative on the first test, another test
is recommended after a further three
month's wait.
In fact, whether positive or negative on
the first test, always take another test
after three months to confirm the results
of the first test..
Hope that is helpful.
Always
Muthoni (Mson)
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Posted: 07-20-08 14:52pm
Thats what I thought.
Thanks Mson
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Unknown88 Posted: 07-20-08 15:01pm
You are welcome and keep up the good work.
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Hiv2 Test Posted: 08-07-08 02:03am
I want to learn that anyone who make test
6.mounth (180.day) is negative will hiv
future?
And I want to learn that hiv2 or hiv1
detect hard. Which one is detect hard.
Eliza can detect hiv2 like hiv1?
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Re: Hiv2 Test Posted: 08-07-08 08:57am
sinandoru
wrote:
I want to learn that anyone
who make test 6.mounth (180.day) is
negative will hiv future?
And I want to learn that hiv2 or hiv1
detect hard. Which one is detect hard.
Eliza can detect hiv2 like
hiv1?
as long as you dont do
anything to get HIV then the negative test
will stay that way.
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hiv2 Posted: 08-07-08 09:49am
I want to learn that hiv2 or hiv1 detect
hard. Which one is detect hard. Eliza can
detect hiv2 like hiv1?
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Posted: 08-07-08 09:58am
yes, they are both detectable.
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Thks Posted: 08-07-08 10:26am
Thks Homerx, some people said that hiv2
detect very hard. Hiv1 detect easier than
hiv2
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HIV is a highly variable virus which
mutates very readily. This means there are
many different strains of HIV, even within
the body of a single infected person.
Based on genetic similarities, the
numerous virus strains may be classified
into types, groups and subtypes.
What is the difference between HIV-1 and
HIV-2?
There are two types of HIV: HIV-1 and
HIV-2. Both types are transmitted by
sexual contact, through blood, and from
mother to child, and they appear to cause
clinically indistinguishable AIDS.
However, it seems that HIV-2 is less
easily transmitted, and the period between
initial infection and illness is longer in
the case of HIV-2.
Worldwide, the predominant virus is HIV-1,
and generally when people refer to HIV
without specifying the type of virus they
will be referring to HIV-1. The relatively
uncommon HIV-2 type is concentrated in
West Africa and is rarely found
elsewhere.
How many subtypes of HIV-1 are there?
HIV types, groups and subtypes
This diagram illustrates the different
levels of HIV classification.
Each type is divided into groups, and each
group is divided
into subtypes and CRFs.
The strains of HIV-1 can be classified
into three groups: the "major" group M,
the "outlier" group O and the "new" group
N. These three groups may represent three
separate introductions of simian
immunodeficiency virus into humans.
Group O appears to be restricted to
west-central Africa and group N -
discovered in 1998 in Cameroon - is
extremely rare. More than 90% of HIV-1
infections belong to HIV-1 group M and,
unless specified, the rest of this page
will relate to HIV-1 group M only.
Within group M there are known to be at
least nine genetically distinct subtypes
(or clades) of HIV-1. These are subtypes
A, B, C, D, F, G, H, J and K.
Occasionally, two viruses of different
subtypes can meet in the cell of an
infected person and mix together their
genetic material to create a new hybrid
virus (a process similar to sexual
reproduction, and sometimes called "viral
sex").1 Many of these new strains do not
survive for long, but those that infect
more than one person are known as
"circulating recombinant forms" or CRFs.
For example, the CRF A/B is a mixture of
subtypes A and B.
The classification of HIV strains into
subtypes and CRFs is a complex issue and
the definitions are subject to change as
new discoveries are made. Some scientists
talk about subtypes A1, A2, A3, F1 and F2
instead of A and F, though others regard
the former as sub-subtypes.
What about subtypes E and I?
One of the CRFs is called A/E because it
is thought to have resulted from
hybridization between subtype A and some
other "parent" subtype E. However, no one
has ever found a pure form of subtype E.
Confusingly, many people still refer to
the CRF A/E as "subtype E" (in fact it is
most correctly called CRF01_AE).2
A virus isolated in Cyprus was originally
placed in a new subtype I, before being
reclassified as a recombinant form A/G/I.
It is now thought that this virus
represents an even more complex CRF
comprised of subtypes A, G, H, K and
unclassified regions. The designation "I"
is no longer used.3
Where are the different subtypes and CRFs
found?
The HIV-1 subtypes and CRFs are very
unevenly distributed throughout the world,
with the most widespread being subtypes A
and C.
Subtype A and CRF A/G predominate in West
and Central Africa, with subtype A
possibly also causing much of the Russian
epidemic.4
Historically, subtype B has been the most
common subtype/CRF in Europe, the
Americas, Japan and Australia. Although
this remains the case, other subtypes are
becoming more frequent and now account for
at least 25% of new infections in Europe.
Subtype C is predominant in Southern and
East Africa, India and Nepal. It has
caused the world's worst HIV epidemics and
is responsible for around half of all
infections.
Subtype D is generally limited to East and
Central Africa. CRF A/E is prevalent in
South-East Asia, but originated in Central
Africa. Subtype F has been found in
Central Africa, South America and Eastern
Europe. Subtype G and CRF A/G have been
observed in West and East Africa and
Central Europe.
Subtype H has only been found in Central
Africa; J only in Central America; and K
only in the Democratic Republic of Congo
and Cameroon.
Are more subtypes likely to "appear"?
It is almost certain that new HIV genetic
subtypes and CRFs will be discovered in
the future, and indeed that new ones will
develop as virus recombination and
mutation continue to occur. The current
subtypes and CRFs will also continue to
spread to new areas as the global epidemic
continues.
The implications of variability
Does subtype affect disease progression?
A study presented in 2006 found that
Ugandans infected with subtype D or
recombinant strains incorporating subtype
D developed AIDS sooner than those
infected with subtype A, and also died
sooner, if they did not receive
antiretroviral treatment. The study's
authors suggested that subtype D is more
virulent because it is more effective at
binding to immune cells.5 This result was
supported by another study presented in
2007, which found that Kenyan women
infected with subtype D had more than
twice the risk of death over six years
compared with those infected with subtype
A.6 An earlier study of sex workers in
Senegal, published in 1999, found that
women infected with subtype C, D or G were
more likely to develop AIDS within five
years of infection than those infected
with subtype A.7
Several studies conducted in Thailand
suggest that people infected with CRF A/E
progress faster to AIDS and death than
those infected with subtype B, if they do
not receive antiretroviral treatment.8
Are there differences in transmission?
It has been observed that certain
subtypes/CRFs are predominantly associated
with specific modes of transmission. In
particular, subtype B is spread mostly by
homosexual contact and intravenous drug
use (essentially via blood), while subtype
C and CRF A/E tend to fuel heterosexual
epidemics (via a mucosal route).
Whether there are biological causes for
the observed differences in transmission
routes remains the subject of debate. Some
scientists, such as Dr Max Essex of
Harvard, believe such causes do exist.
Among their claims are that subtype C and
CRF A/E are transmitted much more
efficiently during heterosexual sex than
subtype B.9 10 However, this theory has
not been conclusively proven.11 12
More recent studies have looked for
variation between subtypes in rates of
mother-to-child transmission. One of these
found that such transmission is more
common with subtype D than subtype A.13
Another reached the opposite conclusion (A
worse than D), and also found that subtype
C was more often transmitted that subtype
D.14 A third study concluded that subtype
C is more transmissible than either D or
A.15 Other researchers have found no
association between subtype and rates of
mother-to-child transmission.16 17 18 19
Is it possible to be infected more than
once?
Until about 1994, it was generally thought
that individuals do not become infected
with multiple distinct HIV-1 strains.
Since then, many cases of people
coinfected with two or more strains have
been documented.
All cases of coinfection were once assumed
to be the result of people being exposed
to the different strains more or less
simultaneously, before their immune
systems had had a chance to react.
However, it is now thought that
"superinfection" is also occurring. In
these cases, the second infection occurred
several months after the first. It would
appear that the body's immune response to
the first virus is sometimes not enough to
prevent infection with a second strain,
especially with a virus belonging to a
different subtype. It is not yet known how
commonly superinfection occurs, or whether
it can take place only in special
circumstances.20 21
Do HIV antibody tests detect all types,
groups and subtypes?
Initial tests for HIV are usually
conducted using the EIA (or ELISA)
antibody test or a rapid antibody test.
EIA tests which can detect either one or
both types of HIV have been available for
a number of years. According to the US
Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, current HIV-1 EIAs "can
accurately identify infections with nearly
all non-B subtypes and many infections
with group O HIV subtypes."22 However,
because HIV-2 and group O infections are
extremely rare in most countries, routine
screening programs might not be designed
to test for them. Anyone who believes they
may have contracted HIV-2, HIV-1 group O
or one of the rarer subtypes of group M
should seek expert advice.
Rapid tests - which can produce a result
in less than an hour - are becoming
increasingly popular. Most modern rapid
HIV-1 tests are capable of detecting all
the major subtypes of group M.23 Rapid
tests which can detect HIV-2 are also now
available.24
What are the treatment implications?
Although most current HIV-1 antiretroviral
drugs were designed for use against
subtype B, there is no compelling evidence
that they are any less effective against
other subtypes. Nevertheless, some
subtypes may be more likely to develop
resistance to certain drugs, and the types
of mutations associated with resistance
may vary. This is an important subject for
future research.
The effectiveness of HIV-1 treatment is
monitored using viral load tests. It has
been demonstrated that some such tests are
sensitive only to subtype B and can
produce a significant underestimate of
viral load if used to process other
strains. The latest tests do claim to
produce accurate results for most Group M
subtypes, though not necessarily for Group
O. It is important that health workers and
patients are aware of the subtype/CRF they
are testing for and of the limitations of
the test they are applying.
Not all of the drugs used to treat HIV-1
infection are as effective against HIV-2.
In particular, HIV-2 has a natural
resistance to NNRTI antiretroviral drugs
and they are therefore not recommended. As
yet there is no FDA-licensed viral load
test for HIV-2 and those designed for
HIV-1 are not reliable for monitoring the
other type. Instead, response to treatment
may be monitored by following CD4+ T-cell
counts and indicators of immune system
deterioration. More research and clinical
experience is needed to determine the most
effective treatment for HIV-2.25
What are the implications for an AIDS
vaccine?
The development of an AIDS vaccine is
affected by the range of virus subtypes as
well as by the wide variety of human
populations who need protection and who
differ, for example, in their genetic
make-up and their routes of exposure to
HIV. In particular, the occurrence of
superinfection indicates that an immune
response triggered by a vaccine to prevent
infection by one strain of HIV may not
protect against all other strains. The
effectiveness of a vaccine is likely to
vary in different populations unless some
innovative method is developed which
guards against many virus strains.
Dear Homerx, it is very good sheet to
understand hiv. Thks a lot for it.
I don't understand that "As yet there is
no FDA-licensed viral load test for HIV-2
and those designed for HIV-1 are not
reliable for monitoring the other type."
What do you do? Hiv2 infection people to
lean about viral load?
And the other subtypes of hiv. Can detect
Eliza antibody tests? Or not.
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Posted: 08-07-08 11:17am
Well, sinandoru, I believe that if you are
tested for HIV then it doesn't matter if
it is Eliza or whatever kind of test you
take.. The test should indicate whether
you are positive or not.When they say "As
yet there is no FDA-licensed viral load
test for HIV-2 and those designed for
HIV-1 are not reliable for monitoring the
other type." they just mean that the Food
and Drug Administration has not issued a
license for this test as of yet. At least
that is how I understand it.
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thks Posted: 08-07-08 11:30am
thks homerx, the hiv2 infection people's
viral load can not detect.
What do they do for it? The illness people
dont know about their ill.
It is too bad. They seacrh only europe and
USA people for test. It is really bad.
What did the africa and arabic illness
people?
I learn it. It is realy a problem.
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Posted: 08-07-08 11:48am
It is a big problem for the African and
Arabic communities. I know it is very
scary for people. I feel for them so
deeply. I pray that before long all of the
world will have access to testing for free
and free meds. HIV is a treatable illness
and doesn't mean you will die as long as
you can get and use the medicine. I pray
for the day that everyone will have access
to HIV medicine. It will save many lives
all around the world!