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worriedinsingapore
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HIV transmission risk blood test
Posted: 03-21-08 03:20am
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Hi,
I recently had a health checkup and
there was a blood test. I noticed that the
nurse who took the blood test, used a new
syringe and needle. After taking the blood
she put pressure on the point with cotton
wool and I noticed it was bleeding quite
badly but she bandaged me and I left. When
the next guy in line came, I noticed that
she took new syringe and needle but did
not change her gloves. I remember that I
was bleeding and its likely to happen
again and also the ones before me. I
confronted her as to why she is not
changing the gloves. She said its not a
requirement. I wanted to report it to her
superior but I was too horrified with the
realisation that I could have got infected
with HIV or other diseases because she did
not change the gloves before attending to
me. Please let me know if it is possible
to have HIV transmission by this way. If
necessary, after how long should I take a
HIV test. Please let me know. Thanks for
the help
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Muthoni
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Gloves must be changed between patients.
Posted: 03-21-08 11:54am
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It really is hygienic.
What I know is that HIV dies seconds after
it hits the air.
Good for you for confronting the nurse.
We need more people like you.
I don't think you got infected with HIV
but if you are worried, wait three months
from the point of supposed infection for
an accurate HIV test.
All the best and take good care.
Muthoni (Mson)
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homerx
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Posted: 03-21-08 15:38pm
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HIV dies as soon as air hits it so the
gloves may have not been fresh but the
risk of getting HIV from them are zero..
but like Mson said, if you are worried
then it never hurts to get tested just for
peace of mind...
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worriedauzzi
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Posted: 03-23-08 04:02am
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hiv does NOT die seconds after hitting the
air, in fact it can be alive for up to
24hours. My advise is get checked! My
uncle is a scientist and researches the
HIV virus. He and 28 other people were all
researching the virus ... 3 became
infected with HIV. It got immediatly
dismissed. The reality is there is a great
number of people out there who do have HIV
and AIDS and have no idea how they caught
it. There are virgins who have never done
anything that are infected and nobody can
figure out why. But the public is not told
of this because that would frighten
everybody even more so. I think that is
terrible that she did not change her
gloves and you should talk to her boss.
However in society because many people
believe you can only get it by blood and
semen less caution is taken. If that were
the only way you could catch it 4% of the
population who do have it and have no idea
how would not be so.
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Muthoni
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Sorry to hear about those who got infected researching AIDS
Posted: 03-23-08 12:33pm
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In open air, HIV can live for 30 seconds
to a minute. In a media like blood or
other liquid exposed to air it will live
for 2-5 minutes, In perfect lab conditions
the virus will live for 20 to 40 minutes.
HIV cannot live on its own outside the
body.
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homerx
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Posted: 03-23-08 18:42pm
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worriedauzzi, your information is
incorrect,sorry but that is not true and
as a moderator on this site I can not
allow you to post negative or false
information about the transmition of
HIV/AIDS. Please do not post false
information about the way that HIV is
spread or the time table in which HIV can
survive. Do not frighten people with false
information.
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worriedinsingapore
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Thanks homerx
Posted: 03-24-08 10:02am
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I had quite a worried disturbed night's
sleep after seeing the post from
worriedauzzi. I have been able to breathe
better with the responses from homerx and
Muthoni. What worries most is that I am
unable to continue with normal
relationship with my wife with the fear of
infecting her. She is too innocent and
pure and the last thing that I can think
is infecting her with HIV!
Anyway, thanks to worriedauzzi for your
effort to answer the question. I am really
sorry to hear about the researchers. Only
bit of reasoning that I am unable to find
logical is that you say there are 4% who
have no clue how they got HIV. Which means
anybody on the street has a similar chance
as me to get HIV. But I am specific about
the exposure and asking to find out if it
is a really risky exposure. There is
little difference between the two subjects
discussed.
Thanks to all again
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Muthoni
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Re: Thanks homerx
Posted: 03-25-08 14:52pm
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| worriedinsingapore
wrote: | | She is too innocent and
pure and the last thing that I can think
is infecting her with
HIV! |
You are a kind soul. Do you have HIV? If
you don't, there is no way you can give it
to your wife.
I hope that is clear. You can't give what
you don't have.
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worriedauzzi
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Posted: 03-26-08 02:37am
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When posting that I expected people to
tell me that it is un true as that is the
public's view as researchers don't want to
alarm people and have people extreamly
worried. I do understand that but please
don't say "you are wrong" ... you are not
a scientist and have not done research and
therefore have only the information
publicly provided to go on. In normal
circumstances yes it is spread by things
like sex and what not but there is a
percentage of people who do have it and
have no idea why. That I am afraid is a
fact. I am not saying that I know
everything about the disease as I do not
and do not wish to study it, but I do know
people who have done study on HIV and I
know people currently studying it in the
lab. I am sorry to frighten you
worriedinsingapore but I do think that the
real statistics should be known and if it
were legal I would photo copy reports from
the lab onto here so that I wouldn't get
called a lier. You have to realise that as
the public you are not told everything in
fact only things that leak out into the
media and are then written about. The
disease is contagious and the fact that a
number of scientists did contract it in a
49month case study where they were wearing
gloves and masks proves that there are
infact other ways of catching this disease
that the public is not aware of.
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worriedinsingapore
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Posted: 03-26-08 10:31am
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Hi Muthoni,
Nah, I dont have HIV but thats what the
worry is all about. After exposure it
takes 3 months to test it right? So, thats
the time when I am unable to get my mind
to to believe all is ok.
Actually, I am not paranoid about HIV
per se. Even one day if I get it through
some freak event like the one I have
mentioned, I can accept it.I am quite
inspired to see all the HIV positive
people who live life with so much meaning
and passion, oftentimes their lives seem
to have much more meaning to themselves
and others. Only thing that really
cripples my mind and stiffles my heart is
the worry that if at all I get infected
and not know about it for 3 months, I will
put my wife at risk.
Thanks
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homerx
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Posted: 03-26-08 11:00am
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worriedinsingapore...great attitude!!!
Play safe with your wife until you get
tested.
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Muthoni
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Bogus information
Posted: 03-26-08 11:36am
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| worriedauzzi
wrote: | | When posting that I expected
people to tell me that it is un true as
that is the public's view as researchers
don't want to alarm people and have people
extreamly worried. I do understand that
but please don't say "you are wrong" ...
you are not a scientist and have not done
research and therefore have only the
information publicly provided to go on. In
normal circumstances yes it is spread by
things like sex and what not but there is
a percentage of people who do have it and
have no idea why. That I am afraid is a
fact. I am not saying that I know
everything about the disease as I do not
and do not wish to study it, but I do know
people who have done study on HIV and I
know people currently studying it in the
lab. I am sorry to frighten you
worriedinsingapore but I do think that the
real statistics should be known and if it
were legal I would photo copy reports from
the lab onto here so that I wouldn't get
called a lier. You have to realise that as
the public you are not told everything in
fact only things that leak out into the
media and are then written about. The
disease is contagious and the fact that a
number of scientists did contract it in a
49month case study where they were wearing
gloves and masks proves that there are
infact other ways of catching this disease
that the public is not aware
of. |
What I know is that HIV is spread through
unprotected sex, sharing dirty needles,
child birth and breast feeding. There has
to be a fluid high in HIV eg sperm,
vaginal fluids, breast milk and blood.
There MUST be a way into the bloodstream.
If people are claiming they don't know how
they got it, I don't believe them. If I
were you I would do anything possible not
to be called a liar. I would post the
REAL statistics to support my story. I
wouldn't care that is was not legal. If I
were you I would NOT go writing about
things in which I cannot support myself.
It is like gossip to me.You like to spread
fear but you are not getting to me. I
wouldn't just scare people like that...I
have had the virus for almost 15 years
that I know of and none of my family
members got from me through your bogus
announcement ways.
Just give it up or post those statistics.
Don't go halfway, go all the way. Give us
the full information. The fact that
people work in the HIV/AIDS lab with
gloves and masks does not mean that they
do not have unprotected sex and sharing
needles. A human being is a human being.
There is a percentage of people who have
HIV and don't know they have it. Those
are a real danger. Is that who you are
talking about? I think you have got the
statics mixed up.
"We know that there are about 1.1 million
Americans infected with HIV. And we know that
about 25 percent of them don't know that
they're infected," Brian Pence, an
epidemiologist at Duke University in
Durham, North Carolina
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homerx
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Posted: 03-26-08 11:43am
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I second that ...put up or shut up.
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Posted: 03-26-08 11:50am
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| worriedauzzi
wrote: | | When posting that I expected
people to tell me that it is un true as
that is the public's view as researchers
don't want to alarm people and have people
extreamly worried. I do understand that
but please don't say "you are wrong" ...
you are not a scientist and have not
done research and therefore have only
the information publicly provided to go
on. In normal circumstances yes it is
spread by things like sex and what not but
there is a percentage of people who do
have it and have no idea why. That I am
afraid is a fact. I am not saying that I
know everything about the disease as I do
not and do not wish to study it, but I do
know people who have done study on HIV and
I know people currently studying it in the
lab. I am sorry to frighten you
worriedinsingapore but I do think that the
real statistics should be known and if it
were legal I would photo copy reports from
the lab onto here so that I wouldn't get
called a lier. You have to realise that as
the public you are not told everything in
fact only things that leak out into the
media and are then written about. The
disease is contagious and the fact that a
number of scientists did contract it in a
49month case study where they were wearing
gloves and masks proves that there are
infact other ways of catching this disease
that the public is not aware
of. |
Are you a scientist? How much hands on
research have you done yourself?
Please post reliable resources for your
findings.
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Muthoni
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Posted: 03-26-08 12:06pm
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| worriedinsingapore
wrote: | Hi Muthoni,
Nah, I dont have HIV but thats what the
worry is all about. After exposure it
takes 3 months to test it right? So, thats
the time when I am unable to get my mind
to to believe all is ok.
Actually, I am not paranoid about HIV
per se. Even one day if I get it through
some freak event like the one I have
mentioned, I can accept it.I am quite
inspired to see all the HIV positive
people who live life with so much meaning
and passion, oftentimes their lives seem
to have much more meaning to themselves
and others. Only thing that really
cripples my mind and stiffles my heart is
the worry that if at all I get infected
and not know about it for 3 months, I will
put my wife at risk.
Thanks |
That's right, to get a really accurate HIV
test, you have to wait three months from
the point of exposure. You may also do
the rapid test but I am old fashioned. I
like to go with a blood test.
I am glad you are noticing that we are
living and not dying from the virus. We
have had to sort a lot of things in our
minds before our time. Some people make
through the hard times and some people die
early. It is a tough journey which can at
times be lonely.
Do like Homerx said. Explain to your
sweetheart what happened at the lab. The
likelihood of you being infected mbae HIV
in the circumstances you explained are
NIL. For your peace of mind, get tested.
And keep your head up high... Please let
us know how you are doing.
Love
Muthoni (Mson)
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homerx
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Posted: 04-01-08 12:25pm
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The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) may
be spread by the following:
* Intimate sexual contact
* The use of contaminated needles and
syringes
* Contaminated blood transfusions and
blood products
The virus may also spread through the
placenta from the mother to her developing
baby. It is rarely spread through
breastfeeding.
People who become infected with HIV may
have no symptoms for up to 10 years, but
they can still pass the infection to
others. After being exposed to the virus,
blood tests results change from HIV
negative to HIV positive usually within 3
months.
This info is from CDC...notice, toothbrush
usage is not a risk factor.
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