I keep chickens, including a
cockerel. The eggs I eat have been
fertilised. But they don't actually start
developing, i.e. get to the zygote stage,
until they are incubated at chicken
temperature, either under a broody hen or
in the incubator for some hours. I usually
bung them in the refrigerator for a couple
of hours, which stops any possibility that
they will start to develop. Most hens,
incidentally, have no interest whatever in
sitting on their eggs, fertilised or not.
Some of the eggs we decide to hatch out,
which takes 21 days or so. If you crack
one open after two weeks, there is a
chicken embryo inside. I really don't
think you could call it an organism --
once the shell is broken, it dies. It
cannot survive outside its womb, i.e.
shell.
I think being "born" is a prerequisite for
qualifying as an
organism.
nobody cares what
you think especially not the humans you
are so eager to destroy with your
definitions. when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has but
everything he ever will have.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 06-18-08 04:13am
antrise
wrote:
oopoopoop
wrote:
I keep chickens, including a
cockerel. The eggs I eat have been
fertilised. But they don't actually start
developing, i.e. get to the zygote stage,
until they are incubated at chicken
temperature, either under a broody hen or
in the incubator for some hours. I usually
bung them in the refrigerator for a couple
of hours, which stops any possibility that
they will start to develop. Most hens,
incidentally, have no interest whatever in
sitting on their eggs, fertilised or not.
Some of the eggs we decide to hatch out,
which takes 21 days or so. If you crack
one open after two weeks, there is a
chicken embryo inside. I really don't
think you could call it an organism --
once the shell is broken, it dies. It
cannot survive outside its womb, i.e.
shell.
I think being "born" is a prerequisite for
qualifying as an
organism.
nobody cares what
you think especially not the humans you
are so eager to destroy with your
definitions. when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has but
everything he ever will
have.
Okay, let's take a vote -- is this the
most irrelevant retort ever?
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diamondsz
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Posted: 06-18-08 07:06am
oopoopoop
wrote:
antrise
wrote:
oopoopoop
wrote:
I keep chickens, including a
cockerel. The eggs I eat have been
fertilised. But they don't actually start
developing, i.e. get to the zygote stage,
until they are incubated at chicken
temperature, either under a broody hen or
in the incubator for some hours. I usually
bung them in the refrigerator for a couple
of hours, which stops any possibility that
they will start to develop. Most hens,
incidentally, have no interest whatever in
sitting on their eggs, fertilised or not.
Some of the eggs we decide to hatch out,
which takes 21 days or so. If you crack
one open after two weeks, there is a
chicken embryo inside. I really don't
think you could call it an organism --
once the shell is broken, it dies. It
cannot survive outside its womb, i.e.
shell.
I think being "born" is a prerequisite for
qualifying as an
organism.
nobody cares what
you think especially not the humans you
are so eager to destroy with your
definitions. when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has but
everything he ever will
have.
Okay, let's take a vote -- is this the
most irrelevant retort ever?
YES- Your analogy is kick arse
Antrise likes to avoid the main points or
questions followed by his analogy of
building jets, so no respect for us but
were supposed to listen to him...
And you my dear Antris takes away
everything a woman would ever want, the
irony WOMAN can think.
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Snug
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Posted: 06-18-08 09:26am
oopoopoop
wrote:
antrise
wrote:
oopoopoop
wrote:
I keep chickens, including a
cockerel. The eggs I eat have been
fertilised. But they don't actually start
developing, i.e. get to the zygote stage,
until they are incubated at chicken
temperature, either under a broody hen or
in the incubator for some hours. I usually
bung them in the refrigerator for a couple
of hours, which stops any possibility that
they will start to develop. Most hens,
incidentally, have no interest whatever in
sitting on their eggs, fertilised or not.
Some of the eggs we decide to hatch out,
which takes 21 days or so. If you crack
one open after two weeks, there is a
chicken embryo inside. I really don't
think you could call it an organism --
once the shell is broken, it dies. It
cannot survive outside its womb, i.e.
shell.
I think being "born" is a prerequisite for
qualifying as an
organism.
nobody cares what you think especially not
the humans you are so eager to destroy
with your definitions. when you kill a man
you not only take away everything he has
but everything he ever will
have.
Okay, let's take a vote -- is this the
most irrelevant retort ever?
You must keep in mind that you're talking
to a man who thinks fetuses don't need
nutrients to survive. So any Bizarro
World replies that he comes up with are
not altogether unexpected.
Somehow, I'm discomfited by the notion of
a person as ignorant of science as he
appears to be building aircraft. But
that's just me.
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aochriss
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Posted: 06-18-08 13:01pm
oopoopoop
wrote:
antrise
wrote:
oopoopoop
wrote:
I keep chickens, including a
cockerel. The eggs I eat have been
fertilised. But they don't actually start
developing, i.e. get to the zygote stage,
until they are incubated at chicken
temperature, either under a broody hen or
in the incubator for some hours. I usually
bung them in the refrigerator for a couple
of hours, which stops any possibility that
they will start to develop. Most hens,
incidentally, have no interest whatever in
sitting on their eggs, fertilised or not.
Some of the eggs we decide to hatch out,
which takes 21 days or so. If you crack
one open after two weeks, there is a
chicken embryo inside. I really don't
think you could call it an organism --
once the shell is broken, it dies. It
cannot survive outside its womb, i.e.
shell.
I think being "born" is a prerequisite for
qualifying as an
organism.
nobody cares what
you think especially not the humans you
are so eager to destroy with your
definitions. when you kill a man you not
only take away everything he has but
everything he ever will
have.
Okay, let's take a vote -- is this the
most irrelevant retort ever?
