kidney stones in blood clot Posted: 03-29-08 18:20pm
hello,this is the first time that i have
ever posted here...i am hoping for some
help or advice...Right now i am in pain
quite abit of pain might i add...vicodin
is helping a little.anyway last year i had
my first of 6 kidney stones so far. the
last one was embedded in a blood clot
which was lodged into my right kidney..I
had it surgically removed.. in the past
few months i have been so tired and my
bones hurt..i went to the dr.my calcium
level was 10.5 ...i am in the
process..monday of having a parathyroid
scan done because they think i have
hyperparathyroidism a sign is high calcium
levels.Wed.i was in lowes and went to the
bathroom and there was blood in my
urine...friday i woke up very very
nausea....felt like morning
sickness...awful.anyway i went to dr..he
said with my calcium levels i was trying
to pass another stone he wanted me to get
it scanned to see the size..i said no let
me go and see if i can pass it this
weekend. no stone yet.MY pain is coming
and going......not very sharpe just dull.
where is this thing anyway...still in my
kidney???what can i do to get it out????
this is day two...drink water i know but
what about beer????why is my pain coming
and going????please help, i am sooo
apprehensive because i know how much pain
i am going to be in soon....its almost
like your waiting to give birth only
theres not much loving about a
stone,,,,except the love of getting it the
hell out!!!!
help help help.please
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Posted: 03-29-08 20:00pm
Welcome to the site.
I feel your pain, as I get many stones
myself. I'll try to answer the best I
can.
It sounds like the stone might be bouncing
around in the kidney (kind of like it's on
little game of ping pong) then lodging for
a little bit and then floating again. I
don't think you should drink beer when
taking Vicodin.
Some people recommend lemonade for kidney
stones others say drinking a lot of
water.
You need to be careful the stone doesn't
get lodged in the ureter and block your
kidney. If the pain continues you should
get to the ER, as you are well aware from
your past stones.
Please keep us posted and good luck on
Monday with your scan.
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thank you for your reply Posted: 03-29-08 20:15pm
good advice on not drinking a beer while
taking vicodin...I am not sure if it is
still in my kidney...seems to me as the
night is going by my pain is
increasing...maybe at a 4...<going on
10 being the worst pain...for a kidney
stone..>It is kinda weird my pain seems
to be higher in my back at this hour...my
stomach is hurting kind of like
cramps,,,never had this either,and i am
having hot flashes?????
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Posted: 03-29-08 20:32pm
It sounds like the stone is still your
kidney, if it's not then it's possible
it's in the ureter which could be why your
getting cramps in your stomach and the
pain seems higher up in the back. If it
gets worse you should get to the ER. I am
concerned the stone might be blocking your
kidney causing hydronephrosis.
I wish I could give you a better answer.
Keep posting.
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Posted: 03-29-08 20:44pm
mippys mom,
I've also had a bunch of stones and twice
had to stay in the hospital until I passed
them. They put me on a combo of lemonade
and water, sort of alternating them, with
pain meds and it took about 12 hours both
times.
I passed a small stone at home about a
month ago with little pain and I drank
lots of water, not beer. I wasn't taking
pain meds, so I guess I could've had beer,
except I don't really like the taste. It
does make you pee though.
It does sound like yours might still be
high up, either in your kidney or your
ureter. If it's a big stone, you may have
to have a sound-wave procedure to break it
up. It's very dangerous for a stone to get
hung up in your ureter prior to entering
the bladder.
I've never had stomach cramps and no hot
flashes either. Are you old enough to be
going through menopause? Your hormones
could be going nuts and causing problems
in reaction to your pain.
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???? Posted: 03-29-08 21:41pm
what is hydronephrosis???
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menopause Posted: 03-29-08 21:52pm
I had to have a hysterectomy about a year
ago that put me straight into
menopause...i am 37,,the hot flashes might
be coming from the possible tumor on my
parathyroid...Anyway for the past 30 min i
have been having some problems peeing...i
know i have to go but it wont come out and
when it does it is only a little bit...it
hurts a different kind of hurt,kinda like
pressure...oh and it is like i have to
push the pee out??does this sound normal??
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Ok, Here's My Take Posted: 03-29-08 23:37pm
mippys mom
wrote:
I had to have a hysterectomy
about a year ago that put me straight into
menopause...i am 37,,the hot flashes might
be coming from the possible tumor on my
parathyroid...Anyway for the past 30 min i
have been having some problems peeing...i
know i have to go but it wont come out and
when it does it is only a little bit...it
hurts a different kind of hurt,kinda like
pressure...oh and it is like i have to
push the pee out??does this sound
normal??
First of all, here is what the Wikipedia
definition is:
"Hydronephrosis is distention and dilation
of the renal pelvis, usually caused by
obstruction of the free flow of urine from
the kidney."
That is not good and what usually happens
when you cannot pass urine freely.
My wife also had your surgery and went
through menopause at 32 and she also had
hot flashes. Of course, you could be right
about the tumor causing it in your case. I
do know every time I had a stone, I felt
like I had to pee all the time and still
had trouble doing it. For you, it does
sound as if you are blocked in some
fashion, whether it is in the kidney and
the stone keeps blocking the exit or
blocking your ureter further down.
The pressure is probably caused by the
buildup of pee with no way to eliminate it
into the bladder if being blocked. My pee
also trickled out slowly in small
increments many times. I don't know what
it's like for a woman, but my penis could
feel the stone coming down the urethra
from the bladder and it was also a
tickling pressure feeling until it shot
out.
If you are drinking your water, then I
would say keep trying until the pain or
pressure is such that you need to go to
the emergency room. Oh, forgot to ask you
if you were having any blood in your pee?
If not, that means the stone might indeed
be stuck, because usually when it is
moving it scrapes the walls of the ureter
or urethra on the way down. Also, if you
find that you can't pee at all, then head
to the ER immediately or you might be
dealing with the Hydronephrosis.
Good luck and let me know what happend.
You can send me a private message if you
like and we can it further. Unfortunately,
I'm old and need my beauty sleep, so I'm
headed for the sack now. Talk to you
later.
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How are you today? Posted: 03-30-08 12:41pm
Hi there mippys mom
Just checking in on you. Has the stone
passed? Are you anymore comfortable.
Are you on a hormone replacement therapy?
I know when I am in excruciating pain I
get a hot flash feeling also.
Kidney stones are so much worse than
giving birth, no one ever believed me when
I said, until you go through it man it
sucks.
Lonestarguy thanks for explaining the
hydronephrosis, both my kidneys are
affected with hydro due to other problems
with my kidneys, but when stones form and
get stuck it gets worse. How long have you
been suffering with stones?
I feel sorry for you guys who get them. My
husband and son both get them also.
You can both pm me anytime.
Take Care
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thank you Posted: 03-30-08 16:49pm
thank you both for the information and
concern!!!!Last night I stayed up pretty
much all night..I have felt soooo sick
today...but no throwing up just
nausea..had no blood in my urine from
what i could tell. i still have that same
dull pain in my lower back. My husband
went to the store and bought some lemonaid
....heard that might move the little thing
right along..who knows???I am not on any
hormones..because i went through menopause
pretty good i think...except for now.I
dont know if i said this or not but it
seems to me that since my hysterectomy
every urinalysis has shown up with blood
or/and protien in it...do you think this
could mean anything???I am sorry to hear
about your hydronephrosis problem...The
last stone i had was lodged into my kidney
inside of a blood clot...is this what you
are talking about or is it when it gets
stuck in the tube that goes from your
kidney to your bladder????you can tell
this is all pretty new to me and i have
just now started learning about
it,,,thanks..Lori
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Hi Posted: 03-31-08 10:32am
Everybody is giving such great advice so I
will add my two cents. I hope you are
feeling better. It is no fun being sick.
I have kidney obstruction so I can
empathize, I also had a hysterectomy 3
months ago. Have you tried anything for
the nausea? Are you seeing a urologist? I
have no experience with kidney stones but
I do have hydronephrosis from the
obstruction. I think kidney stones can be
anywhere along the ureter or bladder.
When is your next test? pm me if you have
any concerns or questions. I will try and
answer them if I can.
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Re: thank you Posted: 03-31-08 14:25pm
mippys mom
wrote:
thank you both for the
information and concern!!!!Last night I
stayed up pretty much all night..I have
felt soooo sick today...but no throwing up
just nausea..had no blood in my urine
from what i could tell. i still have that
same dull pain in my lower back. My
husband went to the store and bought some
lemonaid ....heard that might move the
little thing right along..who knows???I am
not on any hormones..because i went
through menopause pretty good i
think...except for now.I dont know if i
said this or not but it seems to me that
since my hysterectomy every urinalysis has
shown up with blood or/and protien in
it...do you think this could mean
anything???I am sorry to hear about your
hydronephrosis problem...The last stone i
had was lodged into my kidney inside of a
blood clot...is this what you are talking
about or is it when it gets stuck in the
tube that goes from your kidney to your
bladder????you can tell this is all pretty
new to me and i have just now started
learning about
it,,,thanks..Lori
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Hi Lori
I had a hysterectomy also many years ago
but I've kidney stones way before the
hysterectomy. We are referring to the
ureter tube which is between your kidney
and bladder. blood clots are also painful
to pass same as renal cysts when they pop
the pain is brutal.
Feel free to ask anything, someone will be
able answer it for you, if not we will dig
deep until we get the answer.
How are you feeling?
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stones Posted: 04-01-08 19:15pm
thank you everyone soooo much for all of
the help..I did finally pass that stupid
thing..it was not as big as i thought it
would be..shewwww weee!!!! I did have a
parathyroid scan and a ultrasound done of
my neck yesterday...the radiologist came
in the room which i figured could not be
good.... they found the tumor on one of my
left parathyroid glands...now they are
awaiting the other scan results..if they
show "activity" on the same side then no
more tests will be ordered,but if it does
not show
"activity" then I have to go out of town
to get other tests done...not really happy
right now..i will be when they finally do
surgery. All of this tumor talk makes me
sick. thank you all for listening and all
of your helpful advice...it is a comfort
to talk with people who have experienced
some of the same things...Lori
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Posted: 04-01-08 19:51pm
Your welcome. Good luck and I hope
everything works out.
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Posted: 04-02-08 09:00am
your Welcome. I'm glad you passed the
stone. I wish you luck with your further
testing on your parathyroid glands.
Keep us posted. I believe there is a forum
for thyroid if you are looking for more
information from others on this.
Best Wishes..
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Posted: 04-02-08 09:52am
Lori,
It was good news that you finally passed
the stone. Now, we all wish you well with
the tumor and surgery. Keep us informed
what happens. Butterfly is correct, there
is a thyroid forum to peruse.