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acountrygirlcansurvive

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ODD--Oppositional defiant disorder Posted: 03-26-08 20:00pm


Hi Ya'll--- I have a 10 y.o. daughter that has been having issues in school this year and I have noticed it at home more as well. I took her to the pediatrician and also had her tested at school and they both came up with slight ADD and definately ODD. I don't know much about ODD and what I have looked up is about children that hit, curse, throw things, etc.. She does not do this, instead she ignores her teacher if she doesn't feel like doing her work or has already done similar work and she thinks "I already did that and doing it again is stupid" or ignores me about chores etc.., she lies just to be lying about stupid stuff, annoys her sister and or others, if you catch her in a lie she has outrageous tantrums crying "I'm not lying", she has sensory issues with how things feel on her feet and hands, like socks and gloves and will throw a complete fit if it's not right. She begged for some fake pre=painted glue on nails so my oldest put them on for her this week. She had them on for less than 5 minutes, realized she didn't like them, and wanted them off immediately! Threw a crying fit for the entire hour and 1/2 it took to soak them and get them off. She is exhausting me and I'm a patient person! Otherwise she's a happy kid and you would never expect anything. It was suggested to take her to a psychiatrist and I'm scared to do so. What if she lies and the psychiatrist believes it? How do I pick a therapist? I would want a child's one with experience in this type of ODD. I'm also affraid of it scaring her for life if I do or if I don't. Kids really need parent manuals!! She already was in rare form when I took her to the pediatrician for the evaluation. I'm at my wits end and could use some advice. Help!!

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Posted: 03-31-08 12:56pm


Did the OT conduct sensory testing as well? Honestly, it sound like more could be going on. If her ODD - like behaviors of refusing are related to her trying to avoid unpleasant stimuli, then something more is going on. I think it could be a combination of factors. Did the school district say ODD?

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Posted: 03-31-08 13:02pm


In my opinion, I would not rely on the diagnosis made my a pediatrician. They just aren't equipped to deal with this kind of thing. Take you kid to a psychologist!

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Posted: 03-31-08 13:09pm


Oh, so to try help you out with the question about a psychiatrist- First of all, usually (at least around here) you would take your child to a psychologist and then to a psychiatrist if the psychologist thinks they will need medication. Find a few psychologists (not therapist, counselor, anything like that unless they have the Ph.D. and official title of psychologist). Set up meetings with them, or even phone interviews if they'll let you. Tell them your situation, see what they think. They can tell you if they think they would be a good match for your situation. Also, there are many who specialize in kid's issues, again, you can easily find this out when you call them. Ask them what types of people/disorders they usually treat, what their theoretical background is (which will give you an idea of what kind of therapy they'll pursue) and just generally assess how you feel about them. Would you trust them with your kid? Basically, ask them if they've dealt with this before. Ask them what they'd do about it. And ask enough psychologists that you can get a good idea about what you have to choose from. Remember, you're hiring them. You have the right to choose the perfect person for your daughter! Any psychologist who is used to working with children, especially children with behavior disorders, will be able to understand that the child might not behave the best with her (or be manipulative) and they will be ready to deal with it.

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ODD Posted: 04-29-08 18:33pm


I know some of what you are going through as my friend had a son diagnosed with ODD at age 15 - too late to help him in some ways... So it is good that you have someone who has identified it at this age - whether the diagnosis is right or wrong, something is going on with her and you need to find out what it is - and it may be a multidimensional thing - emotional and physical, as well as other dimensions such as social or spiritual or mental... Two thoughts - Look for a psychologist who can help you - interview at least three of them before you decide who to talk to - I have found some helpful, and others not so helpful... You might look for experience and realism rather than young optimism. You might also look for a chiropractor who does muscle testing - my chiropractor has done some amazing things with diet changes and vitamin supplements for kids with autistic and ADD issues. Not sure he has seen ODD - but I would suspect some of the same underlying issues may be at work.

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I have ODD, ADHD, LD, Dyslexia, Aniexty, Depression etc.... Posted: 05-30-08 03:44am


I have had ODD and there other problems my whole life, i still face many problems has now i am adult, School for me was always not the best i was always getting into trouble, school teacher etc were the best things and support to help me. I found people around me that had some of the same problems that help me in many ways to live a normal life, yes it is hard and i still have to deal with it but the doctors, teacher and others really didnt do much, because they did not understand how or why i was the way i was. In my family i also have a little 11 year cuz that has many of my problems, has he get older i understand him in ways that no one else does. We have become very close, has we both know how it is, so i think the best think that you can do is find someone that has the problem that can help i really cant say a doctor, yet they went to school to learn etc they dont know how is feels to live the life of someone that has this problems. Has i help my cuz, try to live in a life were he can be ok, he is in a school were not many people understand, and with that it makes the problem bad. So once again, because you dont know how she/he feels or even how to fix it i think that you should find the person that can help, try to talk to she/he with ways to deal with those things. I dont like when people think they know what they are talking about, when they say get help, i have gone to so many psychologist and they have not done anything for me, its the people that i understand that help me. Please dont think that you know what we feel or even think, just because you know someone with problems. You have not lived in our shoes and you would not want to. one last thing the doctor told me that to live i would need a med to control me, when i was younger my mother gave me meds has i am older now i dont, i dont think that it is right to have a med control my feelings and my live. I have made something of my self, without them and i am proud. Dont try to understand, Dont think you know!!! because you dont......

Mr559

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Posted: 07-10-08 13:13pm


dear poster, i think my brother is just like your daugher. he has ADD and i am sure the ODD you talked about(undiagnosed). he seems to lie about, and avoid simple tasks very often. to me, it seems he lies about these things so much he convinces himself that he is right. my parents dont seem to see this, however i am closer in age obviously and also have some ADD. i think i can relate to what goes on in his mind even though i choose different paths. keep me posted i would like to know an outcome! thanks evan