This is a hard one because I am writing to
ask you men what you think. Here is a man
I was involved with. Left his wife, went
back and got her pregnant. Now through
the bloody wars, leaving her pregnant,
their son was born at 4 pounds, had to be
airlifted to a pediatric hospital for
heart surgery.
He has not seen his son.
Now, he is demanding a paternity test on
that little boy. Would you feel that is
fair or what?
I feel he is opening himself up to a world
of pain. The mother of his children can
be nice or not.
I know that I don't belong on here, but I
trust you men and respect your opinion.
All I know is this isn't going to have a
good outcome.
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2eatoria
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Posted: 06-07-08 20:41pm
I'd have to say a paternity test is always
fair. If you're the biological father,
you owe money up the wazoo for 18 years or
longer, no matter what (a lot more than it
actually costs to raise kids when you're
married to the mother, and have a
household together.) I think it's fair to
make sure the kid is really your progeny,
if there is any room for doubt, and then
if s/he is, you should be a man and pony
up. If the kid isn't yours, then it's
optional. Sorry. Go after the biological
father.
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Roberta777
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Paternity Testing Posted: 06-11-08 22:18pm
How is paternity determined? Do they do
blood work from the baby? I realize it is
done with DNA, just not certain all the
steps involved.
I am talking about a woman, a good woman
who loved her husband. To be honest,
there is no doubt in my mind this child
belongs to the father.
This is just one more example of his
ability to retaliate against her when she
finally said enough, they were finished,
and he wanted out of their marriage
leaving her three months pregnant.
It seems to me that 14 years in a marriage
is a big investment, emotionally,
spiritually and in all ways.
I know this man. He will bail at the
first opportunity. My question to you is
if you force the mother and child into
this testing, and it comes back that you
are indeed the father (I believe he is but
he says he can't be because he didn't
ejaculate inside her even though I have
tried to explain the 29% pregnancy rate
with pre-ejaculate), how will this in the
end effect his chance of a relationship
with his son. He has already abandoned
this baby six months before he was born.
I see this as very bad karma.
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Mikolas
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Posted: 06-13-08 12:58pm
I don't understand quite what your asking.
You think the mother should NOT test? To
my knowledge, this "man" is highly
irresponsible regardless of if this baby
is his or not. What if it is his child,
you can't leave him as is and have the
mother suffer the life of single
parenthood for the years to come. He
should be tested, and if proven that he is
the father of the child, he should be
taken to court and forced to pay for his
child's wellbeing.
The way I see it, he already ended his
relationship with his son since he decided
to stick his penis in the baby's mother
and decided to leave her after that. If he
already abandoned it, he needs to be
tested to prove and pay for his
irresponsibility.
As Marvel has said, I am always the one to
hold out for the hope of a good outcome.
That came crashing down yesterday when I
was told by friends, long time friends, of
both the mother and the father of this
baby boy.
This baby boy looks exactly like his
father. So kind of gets that duck in
order. Next, the truth is the mother has
said leave her alone with her two kids.
No child support, just leave them alone.
Not good enough for this guy. I believe
that he wants revenge upon her for finally
saying it is over between them. What do I
know? It is up to them.
He claims she is crazy, everybody is
crazy, not him. Well, the Sheriff was
called and the Helicopter came out too
when he beat her up whilst pregnant.
Broke out every window in their beautiful
new home. She is scared of him. I would
be.
Now, you can look at this as maybe she
lied, which he says she did, or maybe he
lied. She is the one who got a
restraining order on him. Her mother
too.
Your question is a valid one. I am just
saying there is no way that woman would
have cheated on him. And, there is no way
she would have torn up their home breaking
out the windows with a 5 year old in the
house. This laundry just doesn't come out
being clean. This is a very intelligent,
hard working woman who built that home.
Why would she have destroyed it breaking
out the windows, for goodness sakes,
knowing glass could be flying everywhere
and her pregnant. Let alone, all the
hassle of dealing with the insurance
people. She had to move out of the home
into another home her parent's had on the
property for two weeks for the replacement
of the windows.
You are right about the sticking in penis
thing. He doesn't think. And, doesn't
take responsibility. He has said he will
always have a relationship with his
children.
And, you are right, he ended his
relationship with his son a long time ago.
Life seems to repeat itself, especially
in this man's case.
Thank you for your intelligent response.
Bobbie
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preggie meggie
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Posted: 06-15-08 16:46pm
I think he has to pay for it if he wants
it done.
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Roberta777
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How Is A Paternity Test Done? Posted: 06-15-08 17:09pm
I know it is through DNA, but don't they
have to pull a blood sample from the baby,
the mother and the father?
This baby has already had to undergo heart
surgery only one day old and born at 4
pounds. He was born a blue baby.
Airlifted to a hospital specializing in
pediatric heart surgery.
I am sure the mother will hate the father
until the end of time if he subjects this
baby to that. He claims he couldn't have
gotten her pregnant because they used the
pull out method. Please. Anybody with
half a brain knows that is no method at
all. 29% of pregnancies are a result of
using pull out.
She has gone back to work and her mother
takes care of the children. He has found
out where she is working, so it appears he
is into knowing her whereabouts. Can't
come onto their property because she got a
restraining order against him.
Sad story all the way around.
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preggie meggie
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Posted: 06-15-08 17:17pm
jezz this guy sounds like a real creep! I
hope your not still seeing him!
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Roberta777
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No, Thank God Posted: 06-15-08 18:41pm
I finally got to the point I couldn't deal
with him and his problems anymore. I
spent nearly two years trying to help this
guy see he had a good life and a wife who
loved him, a beautiful little girl, too.
They say you can love folly in a child and
that was what he was. He always said he
was unhappy, but I would say what about
his wife and little girl's happiness. We
are talking about a child who only wants
that piece of candy for the moment. It is
their lives and they alone can live them.
There is new management for me and I am
thankful that I don't have to have him on
my property. Things are working out well
and they are good workers.
This man is a real user. His wife's
parents put him through college, helped
them with their new home, all of it. Now
he has talked his new GF's brother into
buying him an expensive tractor for his
work. He would ask me for expensive
gifts, like a BMW or my Jeep and I told
him no. He honestly expected it. Think
that is how he gets through life.
Actually, I feel a great relief at seeing
the end of him.
It is the baby that I am concerned about.
They said the baby didn't seem to have the
will to live. I guess when you know that
you are inside your mother's womb and your
father doesn't want you, you know that.
His mother is loving and strong and I am
sure he will make it with the family's
love and support. The father says he
cares, but actions speak louder than
words.