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Posted: 05-29-08 16:05pm
diamondsz
wrote:
saria231
wrote:
Um.........the above
is.....interesting.... hehe
My reasons for being Prolife are simply
because:
*It is against my religious beliefs. In
the bible, it says that God hates the
shedding of innocent blood.
*I believe that you can't be pro choice
without taking choices from other people.
.
Innoncent, how do you know they are
innoncent?
Well, no one really knows, but then I
guess we can't assign innocence OR guilt
to unborn babies, newborn babies or young
children until they hit a certain age to
find out? Innocence seems to be a
controversial word. Some people see it one
way, others see it another way. Some think
it means free of sin. Some think you have
to have the ability to be guilty of
something first. Some think it means
anyone too young to understand evil. Or
anyone who doesn't have the ability to
understand what is wrong or right.
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Birch
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Posted: 05-29-08 16:07pm
saria231
wrote:
Um.........the above
is.....interesting.... hehe
My reasons for being Prolife are simply
because:
*It is against my religious beliefs. In
the bible, it says that God hates the
shedding of innocent blood.
*I believe that you can't be pro choice
without taking choices from other people.
*My doctors and my father wanted me to be
aborted and my father actually tried to by
beating the crap out of my mother.
*I can't have kids of my own.
*My mom was pretty much on her deathbed
when she was having both my younger sister
(12) and my brother(9), and she told the
doctors to save them instead of her if
that time came where that choice had to be
made. Fortunately, she is still here,
letting me gray her hair. : )
*I am also abstinent.
And many other things to back my
views.
Hey saria231, thanks for posting your
opinions. They are educational.
Could you explain more why your inability
to not have children, your sexual choice
(abstinence), and your father's abuse of
your mother is part of your reason for
being prolife?
Thank you!
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cmyked
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Posted: 05-29-08 16:49pm
diamondsz
wrote:
cmyked
wrote:
Same here. Once it reaches
viability the only excuse for its death is
maternal danger in which a c-section is
for some reason out of the
question.
I dont think it should be an excuse I dont
agree on it but that is for myself, when I
was pregnant at like 6 months I really
enjoyed it, mind you I made the choice and
dont hold it against
others.
Well the thing is, I find it hard to
believe that a c-section couldn't be
performed at this stage for a woman who is
in danger of dying. Could someone come up
with some medical info on this?
I DO know that there are many cases of
fetal deformity that is not noticable
until late in pregnancy, deformities that
cause the fetus pain and will give it a
short life, or even cause it death before
birth. In these cases I see how abortion
is the safest and most humane procedure.
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cmyked
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Posted: 05-29-08 16:50pm
Innocent? Yes, the unborn are innocent.
What crimes have the committed? None. They
are innocent via human laws and God's
laws.
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saria231
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Posted: 06-12-08 13:40pm
Birch
wrote:
saria231
wrote:
Um.........the above
is.....interesting.... hehe
My reasons for being Prolife are simply
because:
*It is against my religious beliefs. In
the bible, it says that God hates the
shedding of innocent blood.
*I believe that you can't be pro choice
without taking choices from other people.
*My doctors and my father wanted me to be
aborted and my father actually tried to by
beating the crap out of my mother.
*I can't have kids of my own.
*My mom was pretty much on her deathbed
when she was having both my younger sister
(12) and my brother(9), and she told the
doctors to save them instead of her if
that time came where that choice had to be
made. Fortunately, she is still here,
letting me gray her hair. : )
*I am also abstinent.
And many other things to back my
views.
Hey saria231, thanks for posting your
opinions. They are educational.
Could you explain more why your inability
to not have children, your sexual choice
(abstinence), and your father's abuse of
your mother is part of your reason for
being prolife?
Thank you!
I was raped when I was 12, and it caused
me to become sterile. It's a reason I'm
prolife because I see women who can have
babies throw them away without hesitation
when I would kill to have babies. Not
literally, but you know what I mean.
Actually, I have been abstinent for about
a year and a half. It is just a personal
choice I made for myself to stop having
sex. Fortunately, my man supported me in
my choice and we are still happy today. :
)
The main reason I'm prolife, is because of
my mommy. I have seen her in the worst
places and in the worst conditions,
because she protected me no matter what. I
know for a fact, she would give her life
to better or keep mine safe. I have been
in situations where I thought my father
was going to kill her, and she never
thought once about not keeping me safe.
She has fought so hard for me, and I owe
her my life. I know without her, and her
love for me, I would have nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-12-08 14:09pm
So you believe others shouldn't be legally
allowed to have safe abortions performed
by doctors because YOU can't have
children? What do you have to do with
them? Do you even know these women?
What does your abstinance have to do with
other women getting abortions?
Your mother sounds like a brave woman.
Your mother had a choice, and she made the
choice to protect you. Other women might
decide that the best choice for THEIR
unplanned pregnancy by an abuser is to
abort. Whether you agree with that choice,
or whether she is willing or able to do
what your mother did, is irrelevant. Your
mother was free to choose, and so should
every other woman.
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Posted: 06-12-08 15:21pm
saria231
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
saria231
wrote:
Um.........the above
is.....interesting.... hehe
My reasons for being Prolife are simply
because:
*It is against my religious beliefs. In
the bible, it says that God hates the
shedding of innocent blood.
*I believe that you can't be pro choice
without taking choices from other people.
*My doctors and my father wanted me to be
aborted and my father actually tried to by
beating the crap out of my mother.
*I can't have kids of my own.
*My mom was pretty much on her deathbed
when she was having both my younger sister
(12) and my brother(9), and she told the
doctors to save them instead of her if
that time came where that choice had to be
made. Fortunately, she is still here,
letting me gray her hair. : )
*I am also abstinent.
And many other things to back my
views.
Hey saria231, thanks for posting your
opinions. They are educational.
Could you explain more why your inability
to not have children, your sexual choice
(abstinence), and your father's abuse of
your mother is part of your reason for
being prolife?
Thank you!
I was raped when I was 12, and it caused
me to become sterile. It's a reason I'm
prolife because I see women who can have
babies throw them away without hesitation
when I would kill to have babies. Not
literally, but you know what I mean.
Actually, I have been abstinent for about
a year and a half. It is just a personal
choice I made for myself to stop having
sex. Fortunately, my man supported me in
my choice and we are still happy today. :
)
The main reason I'm prolife, is because of
my mommy. I have seen her in the worst
places and in the worst conditions,
because she protected me no matter what. I
know for a fact, she would give her life
to better or keep mine safe. I have been
in situations where I thought my father
was going to kill her, and she never
thought once about not keeping me safe.
She has fought so hard for me, and I owe
her my life. I know without her, and her
love for me, I would have nothing.
Absolutely
nothing.
Thanks for responding. I'm sorry about
your rape, that must've been terribly,
terribly traumatic.
I could not disagree more with your
opinions, though!
Sounds like AyaMiyaki summarized what I
was thinking so I'll let it rest.
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saria231
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Posted: 06-12-08 15:49pm
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
So you believe others
shouldn't be legally allowed to have safe
abortions performed by doctors because YOU
can't have children? What do you have to
do with them? Do you even know these
women?
What does your abstinance have to do with
other women getting abortions?
Your mother sounds like a brave woman.
Your mother had a choice, and she made the
choice to protect you. Other women might
decide that the best choice for THEIR
unplanned pregnancy by an abuser is to
abort. Whether you agree with that choice,
or whether she is willing or able to do
what your mother did, is irrelevant. Your
mother was free to choose, and so should
every other
woman.
No, I don't think that just because I
can't have kids that abortion should be
illegal. Don't twist my words. I look at
pregnancy as a gift. Not an infection. And
that's how children are being treated. The
baby can not be wanted by the parent, but
still be wanted at the same time. It's a
reason I AM prolife.
You contradicted yourself there. You talk
about not letting a man have a choice in
abortion, and yet you see it to be fine
for a man to have a choice if he is
abusive. I don't understand that. Could
you clarify?
I stated I was abstinent because people
were being cornered because of that one
fact.
There is one thing you don't know about my
mother. She didn't have a choice. Because
she never have and never will consider
killing her child as an alternative to
pregnancy. Is motherhood really that
scary?
My mom made it work. No questions asked.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-12-08 15:58pm
saria231
wrote:
No, I don't think that just
because I can't have kids that abortion
should be illegal. Don't twist my
words.
I didn't twist anything. You said that you
are pro-life because you are sterile and
can't have kids. I asked you why your
inability to have kids should affect other
people who DON'T want kids.
Quote:
I look at
pregnancy as a gift. Not an
infection.
Good for you. Others do not share that
opinion.
Quote:
And that's how
children are being treated. The baby can
not be wanted by the parent, but still be
wanted at the same time. It's a reason I
AM prolife.
If the mother doesn't want to continue the
pregnancy, it doesn't matter who else
wants it. The mother is NOT a breeding
machine for other people, and unless she
makes the decision to continue the
pregnancy, it's nobody's business whether
she gets an abortion. You wanting a baby
has nothing to do with her deciding to get
an abortion.
Quote:
You contradicted
yourself there. You talk about not letting
a man have a choice in abortion, and yet
you see it to be fine for a man to have a
choice if he is abusive. I don't
understand that. Could you
clarify?
I didn't say anything of the sort. Quote
me where I said anything like that. The
man is not pregnant, therefore he has no
choice in whether his partner has an
abortion. I didn't say a word about a
man's choice.
Quote:
I stated I was
abstinent because people were being
cornered because of that one fact. Try
doing that to
me.
You listed your abstinence as a reason why
you're pro-life. Naturally people are
curious what your abstinance has to do
with abortion.
Quote:
There is one
thing you don't know about my mother. She
didn't have a choice. Because she never
have and never will consider killing her
child as an alternative to pregnancy. Is
motherhood really that scary?
My mom made it work. No questions
asked.
And that's fine for your mother... but she
DID have a choice. She could have dropped
you off at an orphanage. Whether she could
live with that decision or not is
irrelevant... she had the CHOICE. People
have the choice whether to run over
puppies with their cars, or whether to
molest children. Most people would never
dream of doing these things, but they have
the choice to do, or not do, them.
And yes, for many women, motherhood is
terrifying. Pregnancy horrifies them,
birth disgusts them, and they have
absolutely no ambitions of becoming a
parent.
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saria231
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Posted: 06-12-08 16:03pm
Birch
wrote:
saria231
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
saria231
wrote:
Um.........the above
is.....interesting.... hehe
My reasons for being Prolife are simply
because:
*It is against my religious beliefs. In
the bible, it says that God hates the
shedding of innocent blood.
*I believe that you can't be pro choice
without taking choices from other people.
*My doctors and my father wanted me to be
aborted and my father actually tried to by
beating the crap out of my mother.
*I can't have kids of my own.
*My mom was pretty much on her deathbed
when she was having both my younger sister
(12) and my brother(9), and she told the
doctors to save them instead of her if
that time came where that choice had to be
made. Fortunately, she is still here,
letting me gray her hair. : )
*I am also abstinent.
And many other things to back my
views.
Hey saria231, thanks for posting your
opinions. They are educational.
Could you explain more why your inability
to not have children, your sexual choice
(abstinence), and your father's abuse of
your mother is part of your reason for
being prolife?
Thank you!
I was raped when I was 12, and it caused
me to become sterile. It's a reason I'm
prolife because I see women who can have
babies throw them away without hesitation
when I would kill to have babies. Not
literally, but you know what I mean.
Actually, I have been abstinent for about
a year and a half. It is just a personal
choice I made for myself to stop having
sex. Fortunately, my man supported me in
my choice and we are still happy today. :
)
The main reason I'm prolife, is because of
my mommy. I have seen her in the worst
places and in the worst conditions,
because she protected me no matter what. I
know for a fact, she would give her life
to better or keep mine safe. I have been
in situations where I thought my father
was going to kill her, and she never
thought once about not keeping me safe.
She has fought so hard for me, and I owe
her my life. I know without her, and her
love for me, I would have nothing.
Absolutely
nothing.
Thanks for responding. I'm sorry about
your rape, that must've been terribly,
terribly traumatic.
I could not disagree more with your
opinions, though!
Sounds like AyaMiyaki summarized what I
was thinking so I'll let it
rest.
It was, but everything happens for a
reason. And I could have come out a lot
worse off, but I didn't, which makes me
thankful.
That brings up another point I stand for.
Mentioning babies being innocent from
before, I don't neccesarily think that
raped women should abort. I know, I know,
all the prochoicers are freaking out
asking what the heck I'm thinking, right?
I think those babies are innocent, and
shouldn't be punished because of such a
terrible thing. When my older sister was
16, (she's now 31) she was raped and
became pregnant with my nehpew. She didn't
blame him for what happened to her. She
accepted him as a beautiful thing that
came out of a bad situation. That's how I
think children should be treated at times
like those. That's just my opinion.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-12-08 16:33pm
Abortion isn't about punishment.
And while your sister might have believed
her pregnancy was something beautiful that
came out of something horrible, other rape
victims might see their pregnancy as a
constant reminder of their assault. These
women weren't given the choice to have sex
with their attackers. They at least
deserve the choice of whether to continue
a pregnancy created from rape.
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antrise
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Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 123
Posted: 06-13-08 06:47am
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
So you believe others
shouldn't be legally allowed to have safe
abortions performed by doctors because YOU
can't have children? What do you have to
do with them? Do you even know these
women?
What does your abstinance have to do with
other women getting abortions?
Your mother sounds like a brave woman.
Your mother had a choice, and she made the
choice to protect you. Other women might
decide that the best choice for THEIR
unplanned pregnancy by an abuser is to
abort. Whether you agree with that choice,
or whether she is willing or able to do
what your mother did, is irrelevant. Your
mother was free to choose, and so should
every other
woman.
a choice is an inherent
ability that cannot be controlled by
external forces. the term "pro-choice" is
a meaningless expression used to brainwash
the masses to accept something that is
morally wrong. that being pro-abortion.
the notion that legalized abortion is
moral because a minute fraction of the
millions of lives lost resulted from
incest or rape is absurd. are you
defending the jewish holocaust because the
jews are less important the the nazis. are
you defending the chinese holocaust
because the chinese are less important
than the japanese. are you defending the
abortion holocaust because children are
inferior to their mothers. every single
person that is alive on this planet earth
is here because their mother did not have
an abortion. therefor only a hateful
hypocrite is capable of supporting
abortion.
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Posted: 06-13-08 07:20am
antirise
wrote:
the term "pro-choice" is a
meaningless expression used to brainwash
the masses to accept something that is
morally wrong. that being
pro-abortion.
This logic is the fuzziest of all fuzzy
logic. Brainwashing someone into making
their own reproductive choice isn't
possible. You can brainwash a person to
choose what YOU want them to choose but
there is no brainwashing involved in
supporting independent thought and
personal choice. I support your right to
choose to be sexist, for example.
antirise
wrote:
the notion that legalized
abortion is moral because a minute
fraction of the millions of lives lost
resulted from incest or rape is
absurd.
The notion that abortion is immoral
because you believe an insentient fetus
should have more rights than any born
person is what's absurd, especially when
the fetus was put into the woman's body
against her will. If you want to discuss
dehumanizing people let's talk about the
fact that you advocate for women and ONLY
women to have their bodies used against
their will for the benefit of an
undeveloped human that can't even
appreciate being granted the special right
to use another person's organs.
antirise
wrote:
are you defending the jewish
holocaust because the jews are less
important the the nazis. are you defending
the chinese holocaust because the chinese
are less important than the japanese. are
you defending the abortion holocaust
because children are inferior to their
mothers.
I'm defending women from being dehumanized
and used as breeding fodder by people like
yourself that see them as expendable. Are
you really trying to make a comparison
between the deliberate attempted
extinction of an entire race of fully
sentient men, women and children to a
woman choosing not to carry a pregnancy to
term? You might as well compare the
people the died in these slaughters to
amoebas. Shameful on your part.
antirise
wrote:
every single person that is
alive on this planet earth is here because
their mother did not have an abortion.
therefor only a hateful hypocrite is
capable of supporting
abortion.
Every single person that is alive on this
planet is here because a woman somewhere
either chose to or was forced to give
birth. Those that are here because of the
former can take comfort that they are
loved by their mothers without a doubt,
unlike those that were products of forced
incubation and birth.
Only a hateful hypocrite is capable of
advocating reproductive enslavement for
women.
the term "pro-choice" is a
meaningless expression used to brainwash
the masses to accept something that is
morally wrong. that being
pro-abortion.
This logic is the fuzziest of all fuzzy
logic. Brainwashing someone into making
their own reproductive choice isn't
possible. You can brainwash a person to
choose what YOU want them to choose but
there is no brainwashing involved in
supporting independent thought and
personal choice. I support your right to
choose to be sexist, for example.
antirise
wrote:
the notion that legalized
abortion is moral because a minute
fraction of the millions of lives lost
resulted from incest or rape is
absurd.
The notion that abortion is immoral
because you believe an insentient fetus
should have more rights than any born
person is what's absurd, especially when
the fetus was put into the woman's body
against her will. If you want to discuss
dehumanizing people let's talk about the
fact that you advocate for women and ONLY
women to have their bodies used against
their will for the benefit of an
undeveloped human that can't even
appreciate being granted the special right
to use another person's organs.
antirise
wrote:
are you defending the jewish
holocaust because the jews are less
important the the nazis. are you defending
the chinese holocaust because the chinese
are less important than the japanese. are
you defending the abortion holocaust
because children are inferior to their
mothers.
I'm defending women from being dehumanized
and used as breeding fodder by people like
yourself that see them as expendable. Are
you really trying to make a comparison
between the deliberate attempted
extinction of an entire race of fully
sentient men, women and children to a
woman choosing not to carry a pregnancy to
term? You might as well compare the
people the died in these slaughters to
amoebas. Shameful on your part.
antirise
wrote:
every single person that is
alive on this planet earth is here because
their mother did not have an abortion.
therefor only a hateful hypocrite is
capable of supporting
abortion.
Every single person that is alive on this
planet is here because a woman somewhere
either chose to or was forced to give
birth. Those that are here because of the
former can take comfort that they are
loved by their mothers without a doubt,
unlike those that were products of forced
incubation and birth.
Only a hateful hypocrite is capable of
advocating reproductive enslavement for
women.
a choice
is an inherent ability that cannot be
controlled by external forces. any
thinking person is capable of choosing
anything. any person can choose to fly to
the moon. whether or not the flying to the
moon is capable of being obtained or not
is the only thing that can be controlled
and that is not a choice that is a
spaceship. how on earth is calling
something absurd advocating it? i would
never advocate any elective medical
procedure that involves the destruction of
another human. thats not what the medical
profession is suppose to do thats what
soldiers are suppose to do
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[quote="antrise
a choice is an inherent ability
that cannot be controlled by external
forces. any thinking person is capable of
choosing anything. any person can choose
to fly to the moon. whether or not the
flying to the moon is capable of being
obtained or not is the only thing that can
be controlled and that is not a choice
that is a spaceship. how on earth is
calling something absurd advocating it? i
would never advocate any elective medical
procedure that involves the destruction of
another human. thats not what the medical
profession is suppose to do thats what
soldiers are suppose to do[/quote]
Choice is what affects us everyday, not
just in the abortion field but as well as
our freedom of choice.
Sometimes in life you are thrown choices
you dont agree with but you have to pick
the lesser evils. To deny anyone a choice
in life is deny your own, why should you
have the choice to work, the choice to
speak, the choice to be with whom you
want. I advocate choice because I believe
in freedom, maybe I am an anarchist but
the point being it is only morally wrong
to those who see it so...
REALITY DOESNT EXIST, sorry to break your
bubble, it is what WE as people make of
it, therefore no one has forced their
opinion to make me think abortion is wrong
but you are forcing your opinions. Tell
yourself in the mirror you should be
sterilized and have no rights, when you
are capable of doing that in regards to
all your life, then you can tell me what
it feels like.
Woman are coerced into sex, funny not all
of us for me its recreational but SEX IS
NOT JUST PROCREATIONAL.
So z/e/fs are superior to a
mother.......PLEASE EXPLAIN
I want you to answer a question and no
sidetracking..
A Mother cant be superior but a z/e/f can
be more superior? So with that being said
how can two human live cojoined if it is
not wanted?
Last time I checked when I was in an
abusive relationship I had the freedom to
leave.
What I find ironic is that pro-life likes
to make choice but only when it applys to
their betterment, that is my problem with
pro-life and not the minority.
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antrise
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Posted: 06-13-08 11:41am
diamondsz
wrote:
[quote="antrise
a choice is an
inherent ability that cannot be controlled
by external forces. any thinking person is
capable of choosing anything. any person
can choose to fly to the moon. whether or
not the flying to the moon is capable of
being obtained or not is the only thing
that can be controlled and that is not a
choice that is a spaceship. how on earth
is calling something absurd advocating it?
i would never advocate any elective
medical procedure that involves the
destruction of another human. thats not
what the medical profession is suppose to
do thats what soldiers are suppose to
do
Choice is what affects us everyday, not
just in the abortion field but as well as
our freedom of choice.
Sometimes in life you are thrown choices
you dont agree with but you have to pick
the lesser evils. To deny anyone a choice
in life is deny your own, why should you
have the choice to work, the choice to
speak, the choice to be with whom you
want. I advocate choice because I believe
in freedom, maybe I am an anarchist but
the point being it is only morally wrong
to those who see it so...
REALITY DOESNT EXIST, sorry to break your
bubble, it is what WE as people make of
it, therefore no one has forced their
opinion to make me think abortion is wrong
but you are forcing your opinions. Tell
yourself in the mirror you should be
sterilized and have no rights, when you
are capable of doing that in regards to
all your life, then you can tell me what
it feels like.
Woman are coerced into sex, funny not all
of us for me its recreational but SEX IS
NOT JUST PROCREATIONAL.
So z/e/fs are superior to a
mother.......PLEASE EXPLAIN
I want you to answer a question and no
sidetracking..
A Mother cant be superior but a z/e/f can
be more superior? So with that being said
how can two human live cojoined if it is
not wanted?
Last time I checked when I was in an
abusive relationship I had the freedom to
leave.
What I find ironic is that pro-life likes
to make choice but only when it applys to
their betterment, that is my problem with
pro-life and not the minority.[/quote]
the vast
majority of women have no problem giving
birth to several children and living long
afterwards. the vast majority of women
don't become pregnant because they were
coerced into a relationship that they did
not want. the vast majority of women are
self centered and lazy if an abortion is
easily obtained they have no qualms about
obtaining one if an abortion is difficult
to obtain they have no qualms about birth.
making abortion legal because that is what
a few digruntled women so desperately want
can only lead too a landslide of lazy self
centered women obtaining abortions who
otherwise would have given birth. and that
is a travesty that needs to be rectfied.
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diamondsz
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Posted: 06-13-08 11:50am
antrise
wrote:
the vast majority of women
have no problem giving birth to several
children and living long afterwards. the
vast majority of women don't become
pregnant because they were coerced into a
relationship that they did not want. the
vast majority of women are self centered
and lazy if an abortion is easily obtained
they have no qualms about obtaining one if
an abortion is difficult to obtain they
have no qualms about birth. making
abortion legal because that is what a few
digruntled women so desperately want can
only lead too a landslide of lazy self
centered women obtaining abortions who
otherwise would have given birth. and that
is a travesty that needs to be
rectfied.
Self-centered..I love that word.
We are all born Selfish, the difference is
on if we give or not...
A mother brings a child into this world
knowing she cant afford it EMOTIONALLY,
PHYSICALLY or even FINANCIALLY
THAT IS SELFISH
Kids are brought into this world for
selfish reasons Antrise
People want to add to their family
Girls expect men to come back into their
lives
Girls want to play dress-up etc etc
So if having an abortion is selfish or
even giving birth let me ask you this
Selfish=selfish
There is no differrence
Sex is healthy and has been proved by
science that is also recreational as it
relieves stress.
I made the choice to be a parent but I
also made the choice to have an abortion
and that was my choice to make. I am not
going to bring another kid into this world
to make it suffer, common sense!
Oh btw its not just disgruntled woman, the
men in my family are all PRO-choice..
I come from a family of 6 kids and my
mother comes from a family of 10, equal
amount of men and we are all pro-choice!
Lazy....Taking responsibility isnt
laziness, we have to work to pay our bills
no one else does, thats our world for you.
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Posted: 06-13-08 12:10pm
Abortion isn't 'walk into a clinic, take a
pill, walk out'. It takes a lot out of a
woman, so calling a woman 'lazy' for
getting one makes me believe you're not
informed on how they work.
I completely agree with you diamondsz,
it's selfish to get an abortion. But it's
also selfish to bring a child into the
world when it can't be raised properly. So
either way, the woman is selfish if she
choses what to do with the baby.
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Snug
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Posted: 06-13-08 12:40pm
antrise
wrote:
the vast majority of women have no problem
giving birth to several children and
living long afterwards.
So what? Just because a woman CAN do
something doesn't mean she should be
forced to. Especially if that something
can physically injure or kill her.
Quote:
the vast majority
of women are self centered and lazy if an
abortion is easily obtained they have no
qualms about obtaining one if an abortion
is difficult to obtain they have no qualms
about birth.
It is precisely because I am NOT lazy that
I would obtain an abortion by any means
necessary. I work hard and play hard, and
no parasite will be allowed to slow me
down.
By the by, given how much you seem to
dislike women, have you considered turning
gay or becoming a hermit?
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Lilly Ivy
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Posted: 06-13-08 12:58pm
Snug
wrote:
antrise
wrote:
the vast majority of women have no problem
giving birth to several children and
living long afterwards.
So what? Just because a woman CAN do
something doesn't mean she should be
forced to. Especially if that something
can physically injure or kill her.
Exactly. I can either jump off the little
bridge or the really high bridge.
Personally, I'd rather risk less injury
and jump off the little bridge. Or avoid
the bridges all together (I think that's a
good example of abortion, birth and
abstinence )
)