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Posted: 06-16-08 00:23am
[quote="leftistdestroyer"][quote="Darkmoon
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leftistdestroyer
wrote:
Darkmoon
wrote:
No, it's called a
punishment, and it's something you only
wish to inflict on women for sexual
activity.
No, we are the ones supporting human
rights for women. Unless you also
consider people that decline to donate
blood, organs and tissue to be "killing
lives" your emo-babble is purely
hypocritical. A woman has as much right
as a man to refuse the use of her body to
another, even if the other will die
without it. You support a stance that
demands women be given fewer bodily rights
than men, and fetuses be given greater
rights than born
people.
Declining to donate blood, is not the same
as ripping a body apart. But, I know that
you know that.
And yes, a woman can refuse the use of her
body to another. And she achieves that by
not going through the actions that create
another. Look, man and woman create baby.
Baby does not "infect" a mother. In this
day and age, if people are not smart
enough to know that, then perhaps we
should prop up eugenics again. A fetus is
alive and it is innocent. The mother that
willingly has it killed, should be hanged
with piano wire.
Dont want baby, dont have sex. And incase
you aren't familiar with biology, that is
what sex is for. Not something for us to
do on a Saturday night for fun. You play,
you should pay. And I exist to see that
they do pay.
Infect, nice word. Nausea, loosing weight,
being drained of nutrients. No, that's not
an infection.
And what of the uninformed? The
13-year-olds that follow that instinct and
don't know of the consequences? Not even
close to starting their lives and you
expect them to go through the pregnancy?
Those are the ones that have the high
mortality rate because their bodies are
not mature enough to handle a pregnancy.
I know having sex CAN lead to a baby. Not
every time. I know driving a car CAN lead
to an accident. Not every time. We do
things for fun, to RELAX. Why take away
the one thing we are good at that is free
just because it CAN lead to something YOU
don't approve of?
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neat62
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Posted: 06-16-08 00:40am
Quote:
Infect, nice
word. Nausea, loosing weight, being
drained of nutrients. No, that's not an
infection.
And what of the uninformed? The
13-year-olds that follow that instinct and
don't know of the consequences? Not even
close to starting their lives and you
expect them to go through the pregnancy?
Those are the ones that have the high
mortality rate because their bodies are
not mature enough to handle a pregnancy.
I know having sex CAN lead to a baby. Not
every time. I know driving a car CAN lead
to an accident. Not every time. We do
things for fun, to RELAX. Why take away
the one thing we are good at that is free
just because it CAN lead to something YOU
don't approve of?
Well, if you and your liberal friends
would STOP telling 13 year olds that
"pleasing self" is all that matters in
life and actually started expecting
personal responsibility and accountability
from ALL people...we wouldn't have 13 year
olds running around trying to experiment
with sex!
And if you KNOW that having sex can lead
to a baby...then I suggest you think LONG
and HARD about committing the act, if you
do NOT want a baby or can't afford one at
this time!
I mean smoking crack can be "fun" to some
too...but umm...we don't go around
advocating that EVERYONE do it, do we?
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Posted: 06-16-08 01:14am
We have instincts, and we follow them.
Some 13-yr-olds are UNEDUCATED about
everything and DO NOT know the
consequences of those impulses. Blame
whoever you want, but with most people,
sex is gonna happen when that opportunity
is presented to them. People do things on
impulse, it's called being human.
Riding a bike is fun. You see kids
everyday doing it. They break arms doing
it. You don't see people forcing them to
stop. Sports are fun, they have
consequences too.
Having sex is fun, but just happens to
have the worst consequence. But it can be
prevented AND it can be treated, just like
a broken arm.
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Posted: 06-16-08 04:13am
neat62
wrote:
Quote:
Infect, nice
word. Nausea, loosing weight, being
drained of nutrients. No, that's not an
infection.
And what of the uninformed? The
13-year-olds that follow that instinct and
don't know of the consequences? Not even
close to starting their lives and you
expect them to go through the pregnancy?
Those are the ones that have the high
mortality rate because their bodies are
not mature enough to handle a pregnancy.
I know having sex CAN lead to a baby. Not
every time. I know driving a car CAN lead
to an accident. Not every time. We do
things for fun, to RELAX. Why take away
the one thing we are good at that is free
just because it CAN lead to something YOU
don't approve of?
Well, if you and your liberal friends
would STOP telling 13 year olds that
"pleasing self" is all that matters in
life and actually started expecting
personal responsibility and accountability
from ALL people...we wouldn't have 13 year
olds running around trying to experiment
with sex!
And if you KNOW that having sex can lead
to a baby...then I suggest you think LONG
and HARD about committing the act, if you
do NOT want a baby or can't afford one at
this time!
I mean smoking crack can be "fun" to some
too...but umm...we don't go around
advocating that EVERYONE do it, do
we?
You're the one who's smoking crack if you
believe prochoicers are out there
encouraging adolescents and teens to screw
just because it feels good. Unlike you
and your woman-hating ilk, we educate them
on how their bodies work so that little
girls will understand what's happening to
them when they get their first period, and
little boys understand what's happening
when their voices change and they begin to
grow facial hair. We don't encourage
personal shame in one's body parts by
referring to genitals as "dirty" like your
kind.
There is a HUGE difference between
teaching people about their bodies and
telling them to run out and have orgies.
You're mudslinging lies only serve to
expose your contempt for females, in the
long run. You are misogynists, plain and
simple. The sooner you admit it and stop
hiding behind the flimsy smokescreen of
"saving the unborn", the better. ALL of
your arguments revolve around FEMALE
sexuality. Males aren't even brought into
your arguments unless it involves forcing
women to breed for men. Otherwise you
continuously express the belief that women
knock themselves up on purpose just for
the sake of aborting, and males are never,
ever even a little responsible for
unwanted pregnancies.
It must be nice to live on such a lofty
pedestal, where laws that target ONLY
female rights will never touch or harm
you. Just admit the truth. You want to
control women's lives. Otherwise stop
focusing on whether women have sex
voluntarily or not and start worrying
about ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy,
and start supporting easy birth control
access and unquestioned rights to elective
sterilization.
No, it's called a
punishment, and it's something you only
wish to inflict on women for sexual
activity.
No, we are the ones supporting human
rights for women. Unless you also
consider people that decline to donate
blood, organs and tissue to be "killing
lives" your emo-babble is purely
hypocritical. A woman has as much right
as a man to refuse the use of her body to
another, even if the other will die
without it. You support a stance that
demands women be given fewer bodily rights
than men, and fetuses be given greater
rights than born
people.
Declining to donate blood, is not the same
as ripping a body apart. But, I know that
you know that.
And yes, a woman can refuse the use of her
body to another. And she achieves that by
not going through the actions that create
another. Look, man and woman create baby.
Baby does not "infect" a mother. In this
day and age, if people are not smart
enough to know that, then perhaps we
should prop up eugenics again. A fetus is
alive and it is innocent. The mother that
willingly has it killed, should be hanged
with piano wire.
Dont want baby, dont have sex. And incase
you aren't familiar with biology, that is
what sex is for. Not something for us to
do on a Saturday night for fun. You play,
you should pay. And I exist to see that
they do pay.
No, I don't "know that". Declining to
allow someone else the use of your blood
is fundamentally no different from a woman
declining to allow a fetus the use of her
blood, organs, digestive system and
tissue, except that donating blood only
takes a few moments and is harmless to you
while incubation takes nine months and can
permanently damage or kill a woman. I
think you know that though. You simply
view women as subhuman and not worthy of
the bodily rights that even dead people
have over their own organs.
You're threats of violence against
prochoicers have been reported, by the
way. Go back to that terrorist site you
came from, where woman killers and rapists
belong. PLA is the only place disturbed
people like yourself belong.
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Re: reply... Posted: 06-16-08 06:04am
neat62
wrote:
You want to have sex...then be prepared to
deal with the consequences that may arise
from CHOOSING to do so...period!
Yea, I am against birth control...with the
exception of ABSTINENCE! Now tell us...do
you believe that women are too stupid to
know what causes pregnancy? And do you
believe that women are incapable of
controlling themselves...meaning, they are
pretty much like animals, have sex
whenever the urge takes
over???
See now we are getting to the crux -- not
just against abortion, but against birth
control. It is like dealing with someone
from another planet -- the brain works in
an entirely different, alien way. It is
not possible to debate.
Women are apparently only allowed to have
sex if they are willing to become
pregnant. Not on my planet. Unless and
until men can become pregnant, that is
such an incredibly ignorant, antediluvian
perspective that is it impossible to
believe that there is anyone who actually
thinks that way. AGAINST BIRTH
CONTROL?????? Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!
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Re: reply... Posted: 06-16-08 06:20am
neat62
wrote:
You want to have sex...then
be prepared to deal with the consequences
that may arise from CHOOSING to do
so...period!
yeah, okay. By the way, not all women
"choose" to have sex. And what about the
men who "choose" to have sex with them? I
guess we're not talking about them though,
are we? It's not like they have to worry
about anything other than getting to their
happy place, right?
Quote:
Yea, I am against
birth control...with the exception of
ABSTINENCE! Now tell us...do you believe
that women are too stupid to know what
causes pregnancy? And do you believe that
women are incapable of controlling
themselves...meaning, they are pretty much
like animals, have sex whenever the urge
takes over???
Humans are sexual creatures. These women
did not rape these men, I can almost
guarantee it. And besides, birth control
is not 100% effective. Who are you to say
they weren't using precautions? What about
MARRIED COUPLES who don't want kids? You
want a married couple to abstain because
YOU think the wife is a dirty
rhymes-with-bore for daring to want sex
from her husband? If you want to abstain,
you go right ahead buddy.
Quote:
Because
essentially that is what you are saying!
That women are totally incapable of
THINKING BEFORE THEY
ACT!
I didn't even hint at that. Women are
allowed to enjoy sex just as much as men
are. It feels good, and it's a natural
thing to physically express love and
devotion to your partner. You should try
branching out instead of sticking your
fingers in your ears and screaming "LA LA
LA! SEX IS BAD! LA LA LA!"
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Posted: 06-16-08 06:34am
leftistdestroyer
wrote:
You say it is unfortunate.
Which means that you don't you may not
like it, but you still support killing it
to shore up
"choice".
I support the woman's right to choose for
herself. That's it. Whatever else happens
is none of my business. I don't know these
women. I don't know their situation. I'm
not going to presume to know better for
them than they do. I've already said that
if there was a way to remove the z/e/f
without killing it, I'd be all for it.
Quote:
"But the mother
should not be subjected to a pregnancy
unless she chooses to be."
See? Hey, you said
it.
Yes, I said a woman shouldn't have to
suffer through a pregnancy unless she
wants to. Where does that say that I think
unborn babies deserve death? My opinion
stops exactly where it should - at
deciding that every woman should make her
OWN choice and live with those
consequences. I make MY own choices in
life, and I'm quite content to let others
do the same. I don't lose sleep wondering
if random people I don't even know are
making decisions that I can't tolerate.
Quote:
"Do you feel the
same way about rape?"
Yep. Life does suck sometimes. Plus it
is only 1% of all
abortions.
First of all, I'd like to see your
non-biased source that states 1% of
abortions are caused by rape. Do you have
one?
And rape is an ASSAULT, by the way. It's
one of the worst things that can happen to
a woman. The mental and emotional trauma
can affect her for the rest of her life.
Add onto that the discomforts and
potential dangers of pregnancy, and what
are you doing? You're potentially
traumatizing a victim over and over again.
Every wave of nausea, every painful kick
to the ribs... it's a reminder of HOW that
child got in there, what happened to her,
how her body is not under her own control.
Who are you to inflict that on her?
Quote:
"Do you feel sex
is only for procreation?"
Yep. Cavemen didn't know what foreplay
was. They did what they had to do in 30
seconds, and
left.
Go live in a cave then. This is the modern
world, sir.
Quote:
"Are you
personally against birth control?"
I condone the NFP(natural family planning)
You should try it, the build up leads to
some really great
sex.
NFP is a joke. It takes all the
spontaneity out of love-making, limits
when you can have sex, forces you to
basically live with a thermometer in your
mouth, and... oh yeah... IT DOESN'T ALWAYS
WORK. And if it fails and you become
pregnant? Oh well, it's another little
blessing!
No thank you.
Quote:
"You don't even
know me, sugar. You don't know a single
thing about me. Whatever ideas you have in
your little head about what I'm worthy of
are irrelevant to me."
Did you read what I wrote, the part that
you quoted back to me? It said this:
I feel that your life is not worthy of
it.
I said that "I" feel. Just like you feel
that an unborn baby is unworthy of life
because it infringes on "choice", I feel
about you, because you support
abortion.
I'm sick of going around and around with
you. Stop putting words into my mouth. I
don't feel an unborn baby is unworthy of
life, so you can stop regurtitating that
at me. The ONLY thing I feel strongly
about is that the mother should choose for
herself. I'm on my second pregnancy right
now (*gasp!* Yes, a pro-choice person can
be a MOTHER! Imagine that! Oh, how I must
hate the unborn!) and I know first-hand
how much it breaks you down. I would never
wish it on someone who didn't choose it
freely.
Quote:
"Is that a
threat?"
LOL Nope. Did you read what I read? I
said that because of the law, I am no
threat to
you.
No, you said something to the affect of
"you pro-choicers are lucky the law is on
your side", which insinuates you wish you
could step over that line and do
something. Why do you hold such hostility
toward people you don't even know, to the
point of wanting to hurt them? You should
seek help.
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Posted: 06-16-08 06:40am
antrise
wrote:
on one hand you trying to
get us to believe that most women are
either too stupid or too uneducated to
know what causes pregnancy and didin't
choose the course of action that caused
pregnancy because of
this.
I don't think women are stupid at all.
Uneducated, maybe in some situations.
There are so many people trying to tear
sex education out of schools. Parents are
up in arms because teachers are teaching
their kids how to put condoms on bananas.
And when their 14 year old becomes
pregnant because Mommy didn't have "the
talk" with them, who's fault is that? Did
we expect the 14 year old to wake up one
morning and just KNOW what makes a baby?
And before you stubbornly answer "yes",
please visit our "Am I pregnant?" and
"Teen pregnancy" forums. It's insane the
number of "can you get pregnant your first
time" and "we dry-humped with our clothes
on" posts we get there every day. These
kids DON'T know what causes pregnancy, and
that has a LOT to do with people fighting
sex education in schools.
And by the way, a lot of women who get
pregnant did so while taking birth
control. Some of the women here who've had
abortions are married or are in long-term
relationships similar to marriage. It's
not realistic to expect a couple to
abstain from sex to avoid a pregnancy.
Maybe to YOU it is, but you try living
without sex for five years and then come
talk to me.
Quote:
and on the other
hand you complain about being called
halfwits. well what is it? are women half
wits or are women cold blooded homocidal
maniacs.?
Neither. How is that an either-or for you?
You really DO hate women, don't you?
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Posted: 06-16-08 06:48am
neat62
wrote:
Well, if you and your
liberal friends would STOP telling 13 year
olds that "pleasing self" is all that
matters in life and actually started
expecting personal responsibility and
accountability from ALL people...we
wouldn't have 13 year olds running around
trying to experiment with
sex!
I'm confused. When you say "pleasing
self", do you mean masturbation? Do you
think these 13 year olds are getting
themselves pregnant? Or do you mean sex? I
don't know very many people telling 13
year olds to go have sex. That might be
what you think sex education is, though.
It wouldn't surprise me. Keep kids in the
dark about safe sex practices... yeah,
that's a GREAT idea. That won't cause
pregnancy at ALL...
Quote:
And if you KNOW
that having sex can lead to a baby...then
I suggest you think LONG and HARD about
committing the act, if you do NOT want a
baby or can't afford one at this
time!
That's what birth control is for, sweetie.
Unfortunately it's not 100% effective.
Maybe if doctors would listen when women
come to them and ask to be sterilized,
instead of telling them "no, you'll change
your mind later" and sending them away
instead of thinking "hmm, maybe she really
doesn't want more kids", abortion wouldn't
happen quite as often. Maybe we should be
lobbying for more effective birth control,
or for making low-cost/free birth control
available to EVERYBODY. But, oh wait,
you're anti-birth control too, aren't you?
You just think everybody should keep their
legs closed. That's not a realistic view,
honey. If you really want to make a
difference, you can start on THIS side of
reality.
Quote:
I mean smoking
crack can be "fun" to some too...but
umm...we don't go around advocating that
EVERYONE do it, do
we?
Smoking crack isn't comparable to sex.
99.8% of commited relationships are
sexual. How many of them smoke crack, do
you think?
You want to have sex...then be prepared to
deal with the consequences that may arise
from CHOOSING to do so...period!
Yea, I am against birth control...with the
exception of ABSTINENCE! Now tell us...do
you believe that women are too stupid to
know what causes pregnancy? And do you
believe that women are incapable of
controlling themselves...meaning, they are
pretty much like animals, have sex
whenever the urge takes
over???
See now we are getting to the crux -- not
just against abortion, but against birth
control. It is like dealing with someone
from another planet -- the brain works in
an entirely different, alien way. It is
not possible to debate.
Women are apparently only allowed to have
sex if they are willing to become
pregnant. Not on my planet. Unless and
until men can become pregnant, that is
such an incredibly ignorant, antediluvian
perspective that is it impossible to
believe that there is anyone who actually
thinks that way. AGAINST BIRTH
CONTROL?????? Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!
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Posted: 06-16-08 07:02am
I'm promoting choice. Get it straight.
I've got life-a-plenty in my uterus right
now. How's YOUR uterus doing?
And yes, you're a hater for thinking women
are uneducated, lazy, stupid slobs who are
beneath you and should be broodmares and
sexual toys for their men.
I'm not homicidal. I've never killed a
person in my life.
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Posted: 06-16-08 10:12am
neat62
wrote:
Well, if you and your liberal friends
would STOP telling 13 year olds that
"pleasing self" is all that matters in
life and actually started expecting
personal responsibility and accountability
from ALL people...we wouldn't have 13 year
olds running around trying to experiment
with sex!
Pleasing yourself/loving yourself IS VERY
IMPORTANT IN LIFE.....it can also be
called masturbation, or even doing what
you love such a career school,
activities.
Sex is normal.................You can read
that in any science book, hormones affect
our sex drive or libido Pretty interesting
actually. Did you know sex is also
recretional, such as
What is responsibility and how do you
define it?
Im a married woman with two kids and I
would have an abortion!!!!!! Funny how
alot of us are married eh.
neat62
wrote:
And if you KNOW that having sex can lead
to a baby...then I suggest you think LONG
and HARD about committing the act, if you
do NOT want a baby or can't afford one at
this time!
I mean smoking crack can be "fun" to some
too...but umm...we don't go around
advocating that EVERYONE do it, do
we?
Anything you do can have consequences,
good or bad that is nothing new, sticking
your finger in a socket can get you
electrocuted.
No pro-life advocates that if your going
to do the crack, then keep doing cause
irresponsible not to.
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Posted: 06-16-08 10:21am
leftistdestroyer
wrote:
Declining to donate blood, is not the same
as ripping a body apart. But, I know that
you know that.
And yes, a woman can refuse the use of her
body to another. And she achieves that by
not going through the actions that create
another. Look, man and woman create baby.
Baby does not "infect" a mother. In this
day and age, if people are not smart
enough to know that, then perhaps we
should prop up eugenics again. A fetus is
alive and it is innocent. The mother that
willingly has it killed, should be hanged
with piano wire.
Dont want baby, dont have sex. And incase
you aren't familiar with biology, that is
what sex is for. Not something for us to
do on a Saturday night for fun. You play,
you should pay. And I exist to see that
they do pay.
What do you call oral sex then?
So you want to commit an ILLEGAL crime for
something that is morally wrong to you,
that is retarded.
Just because I drive a car doesnt mean I
am a safe driver but should I have the
right to drive?
Actually biology lesson 101 SEX IS ALSO
recreational not just pro-recreational
where did you get that from........I
learned that in highschool 8 years ago!
Orgasm doesnt mean you are pregnant
If I play soccer and I get hurt should I
stop playing? Depends on how bad the
injury is..
If ignorance being naieve, blind or stupid
then I guess the ones who are open-minded
just aren't as smart as you right.
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Re: Pro-lifers Posted: 06-16-08 10:29am
leftistdestroyer
wrote:
Lilly Ivy
wrote:
Just a question for the
pro-lifers...
The way I see it, PLs are 100% against
abortion. But PCs are theoretically 50%
for and 50% against abortion. Just because
someone is PC, doesn't mean they will get
an abortion as soon as they find out they
are pregnant, or even have one at all. I'm
PC, and I personally probably wouldn't
have an abortion, but would never look
down on anyone having one.
My question is, why is it so hard to
accept that PC means they have the CHOICE
to abort, not necessarily SUPPORTING every
woman to have an abortion? Also, why is
abortion automatically associated with
promiscuousy and lack of
BC?
The PC crowd looks at the lives of the
currently living, the mother and father,
and see how a baby would affect their
lives. The pro life crowd looks at the
unborn, yet alive, and try to protect it
and give it a chance at continuing it's
young life.
Being pro choice, DOES support every
abortion that happens. That is the simple
truth. Even the term, Pro Choice: Choose
life, or death. It is really that simple.
Another term could be: Abortion
sympathizer. YOU may never have an
abortion, but you would support those who
would.
Abortion is NOT automatically associated
with promiscuity or lack of BC. That is a
blatent lie and misconception about pro
lifers. Our position is: We don't care
how or why one became pregnant, we only
want the innocent life, to be allowed to
live.
But, you needn't worry about this for much
longer. The Pro Life movement is dead.
Sure, it is active, but it is pointless.
"Since the year of my birth, 40 million
lives have been extinguished."
In that same amount of time, over 1 billion
lives were lost through miscarriage and
failure of the fertilized egg to implant,
and
511
million born children under 5 years
old died from starvation, dehydration and
neglect
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Posted: 06-16-08 10:43am
neat62
wrote:
Well, if you and your liberal friends
would STOP telling 13 year olds that
"pleasing self" is all that matters in
life and actually started expecting
personal responsibility and accountability
from ALL people...we wouldn't have 13 year
olds running around trying to experiment
with sex!
You wish this were true, that liberal
people condone children having sex, then
you would have a basis for your outrageous
beliefs. But it is a disgusting lie.
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antrise
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 123
Posted: 06-16-08 11:36am
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
I'm promoting choice. Get it
straight. I've got life-a-plenty in my
uterus right now. How's YOUR uterus
doing?
And yes, you're a hater for thinking women
are uneducated, lazy, stupid slobs who are
beneath you and should be broodmares and
sexual toys for their men.
I'm not homicidal. I've never killed a
person in my life.
if you are
defending abortions than you are defending
the deaths of millions of innocent people.
and that very much makes you homicidal.
and what makes you think that none of the
aborted people that you have so little
regard for are not female? and what causes
you to think that my protests over the
deaths of the millions of innocent women
killed with abortions are an indication
of hatred towards women?
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diamondsz
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 3332 Location: , Candyland-Canada
Thanks: 98
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Posted: 06-16-08 12:31pm
antrise
wrote:
AyaMiyaki
wrote:
I'm promoting choice. Get it
straight. I've got life-a-plenty in my
uterus right now. How's YOUR uterus
doing?
And yes, you're a hater for thinking women
are uneducated, lazy, stupid slobs who are
beneath you and should be broodmares and
sexual toys for their men.
I'm not homicidal. I've never killed a
person in my life.
if you are
defending abortions than you are defending
the deaths of millions of innocent people.
and that very much makes you homicidal.
and what makes you think that none of the
aborted people that you have so little
regard for are not female? and what causes
you to think that my protests over the
deaths of the millions of innocent women
killed with abortions are an indication
of hatred towards
women?
No there is a difference between
supporting and telling people to get an
abortion read the definitions.
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leftistdestroyer
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 28 Location: ,
Posted: 06-16-08 12:59pm
Lilly Ivy"
t to see that they do pay.[/quote]
"Infect, nice word. Nausea, loosing
weight, being drained of nutrients. No,
that's not an infection."
No, it's not an infection. We have no
control over an infection. We do have
control over pregnancy.
"And what of the uninformed? The
13-year-olds that follow that instinct and
don't know of the consequences? Not even
close to starting their lives and you
expect them to go through the pregnancy?
Those are the ones that have the high
mortality rate because their bodies are
not mature enough to handle a pregnancy."
Also the rareist type of pregnancy. We
cannot justify abortion because of the
smallist minority. But we can supervise
our children better.
"I know driving a car CAN lead to an
accident. Not every time."
But if you have a car accident, do you go
over to the other person and kill him?
"We do things for fun, to RELAX. Why take
away the one thing we are good at that is
free just because it CAN lead to something
YOU don't approve of?"
As I say, it is selfish, self centered,
and all about me, me, me. Chess is fun
and relaxing. Going to a movie is fun and
relaxing. An art show is fun(well maybe
not) and relaxing. Playing pool is fun
and relaxing. There are all sorts of
things to do that are fun and relaxing.
But my real point is that if you do, then
you should own up to your
responsibillities as a human being. Let
the life that YOU created, be allowed to
have a chance at life.
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leftistdestroyer
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 28 Location: ,
Posted: 06-16-08 13:02pm
Lilly Ivy"]
"We have instincts, and we follow them.
Some 13-yr-olds are UNEDUCATED about
everything and DO NOT know the
consequences of those impulses. Blame
whoever you want, but with most people,
sex is gonna happen when that opportunity
is presented to them. People do things on
impulse, it's called being human. "
Again, you are using the worst possible
case scenario to back up your claim. But
the data does not support that.
yeah, okay. By the way, not all women
"choose" to have sex. And what about the
men who "choose" to have sex with them? I
guess we're not talking about them though,
are we? It's not like they have to worry
about anything other than getting to their
happy place, right?
