Abortion Debate Forum - Question on personhood for the unborn page 3

Rosierose wrote:

Yep, well, I'm only 15, so I guess I am pretty ignorant...

What is really at stake is the mother’s lifestyle, as opposed to the baby’s life. No one has an absolute unconditional right to a lifestyle. It is always governed by its effects on others. There are 1,000’s of restrictions on us including no-smoking provisions, noise and zoning ordinances, etc. Finally, is it reasonable for society to expect an to live with a temporary inconvenience if the only alternative is a child?

Choice is a great thing. I passionately defend a woman's right to choose a career or schooling or housing or any number of life avenues. I defend her choice to decide whether to have , and with whom, and how often, and whether or not to use birth control.

But absolute, unhindered choice is not a guaranteed human right. Think about it: civil society already tells us that we cannot "choose" to abuse a child or "choose" to steal a car. There are legal consequences to those actions, because "choosing" to burglarize a home infringes on the basic liberties of the person who lives there.

When our right to choose bumps up against the right of another to exist peacefully, our choice is blocked by civilized law.
A woman’s right to decide what to do with her body bumps up against the right of that baby's right to exist.
A woman's right to choose an abortion cannot logically co-exist with a embryo/fetus' right to be born.

Simply put, life trumps choice.

Choice is a beautiful thing, it allows you to pick your job, pick your marital status, to pick your educational likings but people still inflict on these choices. Everyday we are told that something is wrong because someone sees it that way, should we have to see what everyone else see in order to believe what may not necessarily be there.

Potential child, potential infant is less than a woman, yes it is human and alive but we have to admit there is huge amounts of difference between the two, unfortunatly whether we like it or not it has been proven.

Pro-life propaganda dictates that the potential life could have been the next cure for cancer, what they forget to add is how that mother could have been the next scientist but had to drop out of school and she could have been the potential for the cure.

Quality of life is deemed more important, if you deem quantity of life than you believe that you are nothing more that a cattle, waiting to be bred by any male, by imposing purpose into a life it enhances the truth, the one that people are in so much denial about. The truth being that we can make so much more of ourselves and yes sometimes we have to take or walk over other in order to achieve those dreams, its called the lesser evil but also balances out later on. The fact the people are so naieve about the word moderation is almost ridiculous, you should have the choice to do as you please but not abuse it, if followed it leads to a happy life.

Would you rather be miserable or happy because you can make the choice to do either and sometimes you have to sacrifice in order to gain such success or happiness.

Millions of children are denied the quality/choice of life, the ones that walk without parents, the ones whom are abused, the ones whom told they are nothing, the ones who are handicapped and you give a crap more about the potential lives. These children will grow up scattered, they will grow up with pain they didnt need to know mentally or physically and it happens more than abortion.

What irks me, is that some people are willing to put a potential non aware being over something that is fully aware and suffers and yet its okay? I think that is being selfish, I completely agree birth control should be more distributed and that men should be held more accountable for their actions.

Woman have kids and then even if they didn't want them, they are told to raise them almost on their own with some, if no help from them, the odd balls who actually believe in reciprocity are rare gems. Men have sex for pleasure and have no consequences but a woman must bear it alone, this is truth and society needs to accept it before we get anywhere, therefore until then abortion is legal and will always be.

It is morally right in mind

This I wrote myself, I dont need someone else to write how I feel and why I feel the way I do, I dont need a book to understand facts all of which can be completely irrelevant. So although you have your beliefs, they are not everyones elses belief.

Someone should never be denied their purpose or quality of life or else it is meaningless. why would you live when you have nothing, when you have no rights at all, that is what happens when you give a fetus rights.

Woman are treated like cattle because some guy thought, that is all they were worth, now if we were brought up in a world where it was okay to Pro choice, where people no matter their views accepted the choices without criticism, we wouldnt be here. The difference is we are trying rid of ugly tradition, of treating people like cattle, like babysitters, maids and well just nothing. People have more substance than that because they are given a conscious or esle we would be just like the rest of the animal kingdom, where they kill to eat or to protect what is theirs.