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lur587

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Posted: 04-29-08 14:54pm

I'm only 17, but I will try to make this as professional as possible. Early this morning (around 12:30 am) I slipped outside to meet a girl i had not seen in a long time. Well, one thing leads to another and we had intercourse. Unfortunately, when i made this decission, I didn't fully think it through. She has a history of drug abuse (not totally sure if she used needle drugs) and permiscuous behavior. I used a condom but here is the catch: Previous to intercourse we engaged in mutual masturbation. While putting on the condom, I had body fluids on my hands, and touched the inside of the condom. I do not know if she has HIV, and wouldn't trust her enough to ask. I have gotten an HIV test in the past (thankfully negative), so I am not afraid to go for another. The thing is, I was told it takes three months before HIV virus will register on a test. I am very, and hope that someone here can tell me what level of risk I am at.
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Lur 587
Posted: 04-29-08 20:05pm

For HIV to occur, you need three things. A fluid HIGH in HIV eg blood, semen, vaginal fliuds and sometimes breast milk. Together with that you need an activity like unprotected sex. Further still you need a cut, tear, sore or puncture for the virus to enter.

When you say mutual mastubation, do you mean you masterbated each other? Doesn't matter anyway but it would have helped me understand better. Were your hands intact without any cuts? If yes, you need not worry.

For an accurate blood test, you would have to wait three months and then another three months to confirm everything. Reason being that in the first test, the doctor catches 98% of the people infected. There is a 2% that take six months to show up.

Testing can be stressful as you might know and I hope you can get counselling before and after. Test for your peace of mind and please be careful.

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lur587

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Posted: 04-29-08 20:24pm

I fingered her and she...returned the favor? I am worried about the fact that i had her vaginal fluids on my hands, and touched the inside of the condom 9part that was contacting my penis.) I don't recall any open wounds on my finger or genitals.
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Lur 587
Posted: 04-29-08 21:33pm

The contents in the inside of the condom were yours right? Why would you worry about that? Remember that HIV dies 30 seconds to a minute after it hits the air.

...I have read your post again and I gather you are worried that her fluids got into the condom as you had touched her and touched the inside of the condom. Is that correct?

You would have had a tear on your penis and the HIV in her fluids must have survived the transfer. The cuts and tears on the genitals and inside are not visible to the human eye.

I repeat that you should test for your own peace of mind.

All the best

Hoping to hear your clarification on my confusion Confused

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lur587

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Posted: 04-29-08 21:36pm

Yes, I am worried her fluids got into the condom while I was putting it on. I want to get tested, but doing so is useless until 3 months passes:(
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Posted: 04-30-08 21:37pm

Is it possible to get an accurate test earlier than 3 months?
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Posted: 04-30-08 22:19pm

lur587 wrote:
Is it possible to get an accurate test earlier than 3 months?

no
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Posted: 04-30-08 22:32pm

How Is HIV Transmitted?
A person who is HIV-infected carries the virus in certain body fluids, including blood, semen, vaginal secretions, and breast milk. The virus can be transmitted only if such HIV-infected fluids enter the bloodstream of another person. This kind of direct entry can occur (1) through the linings of the vagina, rectum, mouth, and the opening at the tip of the penis; (2) through intravenous injection with a syringe; or (3) through a break in the skin, such as a cut or sore. Usually, HIV is transmitted through:

* Unprotected sexual intercourse (either vaginal or anal) with someone who is HIV-infected.
Women are at greater risk of HIV infection through vaginal sex than men, although the virus can also be transmitted from women to men. Anal sex (whether male-male or male-female) poses a high risk mainly to the receptive partner, because the lining of the anus and rectum are extremely thin and filled with small blood vessels that can be easily injured during intercourse.

* Unprotected oral sex with someone who is HIV-infected.
There are far fewer cases of HIV transmission attributed to oral sex than to either vaginal or anal intercourse, but oral-genital contact poses a clear risk of HIV-infection, particularly when ejaculation occurs in the mouth. This risk is increased when either partner has cuts or sores, such as those caused by sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), recent tooth-brushing, or canker sores, which can allow the virus to enter the bloodstream.

* Sharing needles or syringes with someone who is HIV-infected.
Laboratory studies show that infectious HIV can survive in used needles for a month or more, and should never reuse or share syringes, water, or drug preparation equipment. This includes needles or syringes used to inject illegal drugs such as heroin, as well as steroids. Other types of needles, such as those used for body piercing and tattoos, can also carry HIV.

* Infection during pregnancy, childbirth, or breast-feeding (mother-to-infant transmission).
Any woman who is pregnant or considering becoming pregnant and thinks she may have been exposed to HIV even if the exposure occurred years ago should seek testing and counseling. Mother-to-infant transmission has been reduced to just a few cases each year in the U.S., where pregnant women are tested for HIV, and those who test positive are provided with drugs to prevent transmission and counseled not to breast-feed.


How Is HIV Not Transmitted?
HIV is not an easy virus to pass from one person to another. It is not transmitted through food or air (for instance, by coughing or sneezing). There has never been a case where a person was infected by a household member, relative, co-worker, or friend through casual or everyday contact such as sharing eating utensils and bathroom facilities or hugging and kissing. (Most scientists agree that while HIV transmission through deep or prolonged "French" kissing may be possible, it would be extremely unlikely.)

Here in the U.S., screening the blood supply for HIV has virtually eliminated the risk of infection through blood transfusions. (And you cannot get HIV from giving blood at a blood bank or other established blood collection center.) Sweat, tears, vomit, feces, and urine do contain HIV, but have not been reported to transmit the disease (apart from two cases involving transmission from feces via cut skin). Mosquitoes, fleas, and other insects do not transmit HIV.
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Posted: 05-01-08 06:18am

I have done lots of research on how HIV can be spread but nothing covered my specific circumstance. I had body fluids on my hand whilest applying the condom, which then touched the condom and inevitably my penis (probably on the head). I am just very nervous. Three months in this mental state is going to be very difficult.
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Posted: 05-01-08 10:48am

The virus can not live outside the body.. Once exposed to air it dies within 30 seconds. I don't know what else to say. You can get tested now but it may not be accurate. It just isn't very likely but if you cant relax and it is eating at you then I guess you need to get tested.
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Lur 587
Posted: 05-01-08 11:30am

lur587 wrote:
Three months in this mental state is going to be very difficult.


The thing is as Homerx has said, if you go right now for a test, it might not be accurate. That will bother you and you have to wait again. Why not just wait. Occupy your mind with other things. Worrying won't change anything.

I don't know which country you are from but there are some rapid tests that take less waiting. I personally don't trust them. Maybe that is something you can try while you wait. Confused

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Posted: 05-01-08 11:40am

good point,Mson...try the rapid test but I am like Mson, I don't trust them yet either...
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Posted: 05-01-08 14:36pm

Yea I took the rapid test once before, and they also recommended a three month waiting period. You say the virus dies within 30 seconds of contact with air. Is that true even if the bodily fluid is still wet? By the way, I want to say how much I appreciate all of your help. The time you all devote to HIV/AIDS awareness and treatment is priceless.
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Posted: 05-01-08 14:47pm

lur587...thank you...and yes, even if the body fluid is still wet the air kills the virus within seconds.
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Posted: 05-01-08 16:12pm

Thats very good news =) So I am very low risk? Either way i will plan to get tested but this is quite a relief.
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Posted: 05-01-08 16:27pm

Yes, you are at an extremely low risk but it is always best to get tested after the 3 month waiting period...good luck, you are going to be just fine! 2thumbs respect
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Posted: 05-01-08 21:41pm

Thanks again, homerx and Muthoni. Of course I'm still a bit nervous (all the what-ifs spinning around in my head) and plan on exercising more precaution in the future. I would have been a wreck for 3 months without your help!
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Posted: 05-01-08 21:45pm

2thumbs Your gonna be just fine, mate... respect
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Posted: 05-01-08 22:14pm

God bless us all.
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Posted: 05-02-08 02:20am

no risk at all! dont worry, good thing you used a condom, but there is no risk, i mean maybe only theoretical, but not even plausible
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