schizo-affective disorder and tremors Posted: 03-08-08 15:06pm
Hello,
I have schizo-affective disorder. It
started when I was 18. I lost my first
job because of the problem when I was 28.
I was out of work due to the illness for 3
years. I just recently returned to work.
I not only suffer from the
schizo-affective disorder (delusions and
paranoia) but I also have tremors (hands
shake.) I take medication for the above
issues. The medications have various side
effects. While I am on the medication I
am allot better. But because of the side
effects of the medication such as vision
impairment and drowsiness plus the tremors
I think my employer suspects drug use...I
could just be paranoid. I did take a
pre-employment drug test which I popped
negative on. But the point I am getting
at here is that I am considering notifying
the employer of the disability and the
medications that I take so they are aware
of what really is causing the issues and
so they don't speculate that it may be
other issues.
My question is: is it wise to notify an
otherwise ignorant employer of my
disability and medication use? One of the
things I am afraid of is that I will cause
the exact thing I am trying to prevent.
If I tell them of my disability they may
try to say that I am not fit to work...or
otherwise find some other problem with me.
I have no verbal or written reprimands at
work. I work usually 58 hours a week and
have, to my knowledge, shown no sign of
being incapable of performing my required
job duties. Sure, sure, I have made some
mistakes but nothing serious. I also have
never missed a day of work in the five
months I have been working there.
The reason that I think that dismissal may
be coming is that a co-worker said that he
will be taking my shift and my boss said
that it is not true. That certain
comments have been made to me about the
side effects of the medications that I
take. And it seems that my co-workers
make jests about me to my face but in the
form of private jokes that I clearly don't
understand. Though the boss says I am
doing a great job and talks of the future
in a positive light.
One the difficulties of being paranoid is
that often one cannot act on their
suspicions. Like I can't ask my boss: "do
you think I am on drugs and are you
planning on firing me?" Or ask my
co-workers: "are you making fun of my
disabilities?" You know, it sucks, I wish
I could ask such questions and if asked I
wish they would be answered honestly. But
we all know those questions never get
answered honestly.
So what do you guys think? Please, please
help.
EDIT: The reason why I think it would be
prudent to notify them is that way they
know what is really causing the problem
and that way, if they fire me, they can't
say they didn't know. Or I could say that
they are firing me because of my
disabilities, the symptoms thereof and the
side effects of the medication that I
take, and that they know because I
notified them.
Anyway, I was thinking of sending my boss
an email to make it formal. Here is a
copy of what I wrote (but have not yet
sent):
I maybe should of spoke with you about
this earlier but I didn't want it to
effect opinions of me, but after careful
consideration I thought disclosure would
be a prudent action to take at this time.
Primarily to squelch any wild speculation
on the part of others that may occur or
have already occurred. I take several
medications for various aliments. One
medication you already know of which is
inderol for tremors (shaking of the hands)
and a few various psychotropic medications
for anxiety (which probably contributes to
the tremors) and depression. These
medications have various side effects such
as minor vision impairment, drowsiness and
other non-relevant things. These aliments
and the corresponding medications should
have no detriment to my ability to
function at work. If you want, I could
get a letter from a physician verifying my
ability to work?
As you can understand, this is personal
medical information and should be kept at
the strictest confidentiality. I would
of preferred not to mention this at all,
but I figured that the side effects of the
medication or the symptoms of the aliments
may sometimes be visible to you and I
prefer you hear the truth from me instead
of filling in the blanks with speculation
yourself.
NOTE: As you can see I said it was for
depression instead of the real problem
which is schizo-affective. I say
depression because schizophrenia has
obvious social stigma's attached to it.
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Philo
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Posted: 03-10-08 12:25pm
You better not do it. I gather there are
no problems yet, just your fears. Don't
try to fix something that isn't broken.
Any mental illness has social stigma
attached to it, and when the word spreads,
you might be at a loss instead of a gain.
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woops
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Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 222
Posted: 03-10-08 15:00pm
I agree with philo, if you can take the
emotional torture and not tell anybody you
better not. These probably aren't the
kinds of people that would be able to
treat you the right way or think and feel
the right things about your disease.
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Galaxy
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Posted: 03-14-08 18:46pm
On the other hand, if you disclose this
then you can claim protection from the
Disability Discrimination Act which means
that, so long as they are aware of your
disability (verified by your GP or their
Occupational Health Adviser) then they
have to make 'reasonable adjustments' to
ensure that you can continue to work to
the best oif your ability. They also
cannot fire you without very, very good
reason such as gross misdemeanour.
I would ask for a referral to their
Occupational Health Adviser and discuss
the matter with them. They are not
obliged to report every detail of your
disability but they should make
recommendations to help you and also
inform your employer that you are covered
by the DDA.
Do NOT send the email to your employer.
An email is not a secure or confidential
means of communication and you are NOT
obliged to report the specific nature of
your illness directly to him without first
consulting OH and perhaps a union
representative / lawyer.
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wondering 1006
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Posted: 03-18-08 12:02pm
it is good to be up front and honest and
if he does give you problems get a
advocate to help you at the local
management agency at the local court house
for the mentally illness office .
i have had this happen to me they left me
go because i did not say anything then i
had a massive sezuire that could of
endangered the lives of others the
comments the other people gave you are
nice but you need to tell him or her the
truth . bring in the dr's prescriptions so
he know you are not a drug user alot of
the time the employer calls the dr to
verify they can not fire you and keeping
this out of fear is never good . We have
rights under the disability act . some
employers fail to obey to this act and you
can file a complaint to get your job back
everyone needs to work and everyone needs
to eat . the advocate will be your right
hand man through the process the dda act
is there to protect us with problems like
this. emails are ok the dr can email the
employer people with comments that never
exsperienced this shouldn't comment
because they do not know about it. do what
is right for you be upfront and honest
when u get a job tell the boss what kind
of illness you face and what medications
you take so he can notify the other staff
which is your peers that you have problems
to either help you or to notify a dr when
you become ill. some employers can even
check on you at your residence if they
seem to worry to the point
but to the others that comment your doing
more damage then good he needs to tell the
truth not hide and cover it up that will
be the worse thing he can do. if he has
sezuires or commplacations from his
illness and he covers it up that is
grounds for dismissal. he can endanger the
lives of others or him self if he was
useing any kind of equipment like
forklifts or press machines things of that
nature you could get hurt
tell the truth spare the humilation at the
end of the tourment it will get worse if
you are in the spot lite for a foolish
mistake like hurting your self at work or
hurting others at work the media thinks it
is up front news an
that could humilate you instead of what
you are going through .
galaxy is correct they can not fire you
under the dda act and if they do you can
file a complaint remember that we have
rights too ................
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Georgia59
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Posted: 03-18-08 12:18pm
Look into your rights and protections
first, then do it. check with your state
department of health, talk to some kind of
advocate first.
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Titus
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Posted: 03-21-08 15:49pm
Thanks for the feedback people. I think I
have further evidence of possible
dismissal. The boss just did a review on
me and gave me only a 3.1 out 5 which
according to the document is just above
meeting expectations. This would not be a
problem if it were true but the fact is I
have gone way beyond the call of duty. I
have been working 50-60 hours a week for
the last 5 months, doing extra projects
that are beyond my duty, completing other
coworkers responsibilities trying to be a
team player, etc... I feel absolutely
that I am beyond expectations. Anyway, when I
complained to him about it he fed me a
bunch of crap, but something stuck in my
mind because he kept repeating it: "you
will always have a job while I am working
and am your boss." Earlier this month he
said he would be taking off for a month
because of some kind of surgery and I am
afraid that's when they will can me.
I think he is waiting because I have some
dirt on him and I don't think he wants to
be the one to fire me...I worked with him
several years ago when I was 24, I had
been ill for 6 years at that point, but it
was mild and I was definetly functioning,
and I was not on meds so the side effects
of the meds were no apparent. Anyway he
was fired from that job for, I feel, caca;
kind of the same political caca that I am
afraid of getting fired for. So my point
is that I don't think he wants to fire me
because he thinks I will expose him. I
wouldn't do that because that's not who I
am...but that is who he is so he thinks I
would.
Anyway, as you can see, it's quite diluted
and very difficult, as always for me, to
tell if what I am thinking, the schema
that I am in, if it is real or not. Maybe
I am blowing it out of proportion.
However I have gone through this before
when I became REALLY ill, kicked in full
blown, about 4 years ago...and I was
mentally/verbally TORTURED on a daily
basis by my co-workers...they would say
really nasty stuff to me in front of an
audience, play cruel jokes on me like
breaking my chair, unplugging my phone,
putting in a bad light bulb above my desk,
etc... it was hell! It's truly scary how
evil people truly are also, and most
importantly that I did nothing to deserve
it except being weird. It got to the
point were I would wake up every morning
and be so afraid to go to work and then I
started calling off allot...bla bla
bla...long story. Anyway it hasn't gotten
to that point yet at my current employment
but I can see the beginning of it because
I have been there.
One of the reasons why I took the job is
that most of the time I am alone with no
supervision or social interactions which
is perfect for me. (I work in IT) But
these problems, believe it or not, arise
from that mere 10% of the time I do have
interaction.
Anyway, I think talking to an advocate is
a good idea. I will call them and see
what they think. On another board they
suggested writing a letter and attaching
the disability act to it, what do you guys
think of that? I guess the advocate will
give me an opinion.
I have SSD, so if I get fired it is not
the end of the world. However I like my
job and I like working...it gives me
purpose and people need purpose. I would
however quit or like to be dismissed
before the torture kicks in because I
don't want to go through that again. The
last job I mentioned kept me for so long
because they hired me to do a system
upgrade for them and paid 7000 dollars for
me to the head hunter so they wanted to
get there money out of me before they
canned me...which is totaly morally wrong
because it was torture just so they can
save a few bucks and it also goes to show
you that my work is good and exceptable
it's just my illness symptoms and side
affects of the meds that gets me fired.
EDIT: I work for a very large corporation
and usually with large corps (one of the
reason why I like working for them) is
they have clearly defined rules,
regulations and policies for every kind of
circumstance. The point I am getting at
here is: maybe I should go to HR instead
of my boss...that way I could get it
documented and retain confidentiality...it
would be allot different if HR ois telling
my boss what the rules are and what he can
and cannot do...unlike if I told him he
would probably just do what is instinctive
to his personality which is probably being
cruel, gossipy, etc... What do you guys
think of that?
Though one problem I could see me running
into and it is a problem I wanted to
avoid, is if I told them about my
disability they may force me to get an
okay from my doctor saying that I can work
but I don't know how that would turn out.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 03-21-08 20:05pm
Ok, well yes, talk to an advocate about
all this and see what they say.
But also, HR is a great place to go. And
you don't have to say most of this stuff,
just tell them that you have a disability
and want to be sure your rights are being
met. I don't think they would require
anything from your doctor, but you can
simply ask them about it. (An open-ended
question like, "if a person had a
disability what information would you
need?")
And of course, you have the right to keep
your job and deal with some of the crap
you've been dealing with- SS isn't really
much, and jobs are just really great for
everyone because they do kind've keep you
in touch with the real world. Trust me,
the one summer I actually had off (college
student) I pretty much holed myself up and
didn't interact with anyone... that is
never good for you! But contributing in
some way will help you out.
So, talk to an advocate, and ask them all
this. And also, if you are choosing
between HR and your boss, talk to HR. They
will be very careful to follow the rules
and document everything. The idea about
the letter and disability act was pretty
good too, couldn't hurt at least.