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TTCinFL

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self-treatment of infertility
Posted: 06-04-08 08:22am

Hello ladies!
My name is Sherri, I'm 34 and we have been TTC for about 9 years now with no luck. I have never seen a doctor about this, I don't even know what kind of doctor to see, and I don't know what it would cost, but I'm sure it isn't cheap.

About 3 months ago I decided to take things into my own hands and pray for the best. I have checked my bbt every month and in addition, I ordered Clomid from an overseas pharmacy without a prescription. I took it from day 5 to 9 exactly the same time every night. According to my OPK I surged yesterday. This morning my bbt was 96.70 which is a LOT lower than other days. Well, we had the baby dance every night for the past 5 nights and this morning I woke up cramping. Almost like gas, but it doesn't seem to be gas. I'm sooooo hoping we hit the nail on the head this time, but I don't know what to think since this clomid thing is not exactly being monitored by a doctor. I'm so nervous. I have a very faithful 28 day cycle, so it seems as though things are right on schedule for the moment. I'll keep you all posted.

I have found where I can order the pregnyl online from the same place I got my clomid. I'm thinking that if this clomid thing doesn't work, I'm going to try the pregnyl injections, but needless to say, I'm scared. I need some advice. I don't know all the "exacts" on what to do, but I've spent countless hours online reading and reading and reading in hopes to have at least some clue of what I'm doing.

Has anyone else done this without doctor's supervision? Has anyone else here taken the pregnyl injections themselves that are willing to offer advice? What kind of doctor do you see to first start TTC with clomid and/or pregnyl? How much does it usually cost? What all is involved?

I would be so greatful to anyone that can help.
I'm going to my daughter's award ceremony at the school and will be back in an hour. I'll check back then.

Sherri
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Strumphette

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Posted: 06-04-08 14:15pm

First of all, that is very dangerous to take meds without a prescription, you could do more harm than good.
The type of Dr. to go to is a Gynecologist, in this case an OB/GYN (Obstetrics and Gynecology). If there's something majorly wrong, he'll send you to a specialist, like a reproductive endocronologist. That's what I ended up having to do.
If you have insurance, it shouldn't be too pricey, but isn't having a baby worth anything? I've been through 2 surgeries-expensive even with insurance-but it'll be worth it when we have a baby.
If you have insurance, go to their website and search for Drs in your area that they cover. Look for OB/GYN and call one and make an appt for as soon as you can get in.
Good luck with everything.
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-04-08 14:43pm

Thank you Jthorne. Smile

The reason I asked is because I get my yearly paps and checkups from my regular GP and I do not see an OB/GYN, so when I asked her about all this, she just said talk to me after you've tried a while longer and then I can send you to a specialist. So until now, that's all I knew, and frankly, I'm tired of trying. In addition, she told me that most average income couples really couldn't afford all that is involved with fertility treatments, so try the old fashioned way was long as I could. Needless to say, she wasn't too helpful at all. Our insurance doesn't cover any fertility or maternity issues at all, so this will be all out of our pocket entirely. That has me a little stressed. We have saved for a long time to prepare for the expense of having another child in hopes that he or she would be well taken care of, and I don't want to spend all of that on trying to get pregnate then end up financially strapped when the baby comes. It scares me. My husband is a contractor and with the economy the way it is these days we have to be smart with every dime we spend. I mean, if we're talking a couple thousand, then I'm okay with that, but my GP made it sound like it is way out of our league. I don't know what to think and trying to get in to see a new doctor around this area is about as easy as winning the lottery. This area is way over populated with not enough doctors. It is at least a 4 to 6 month wait just to get in to see her for updated checkups for refills on other meds. I'll get on the phone and give it a shot, I was just hoping that with all that it seems many of you have been through that your experience would be comforting to me if shared.

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will keep you all posted on what happens next. I know I O'd today, and hubby is rushing home for some baby dust, so keep your fingers crossed for me.

Hugs!
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Posted: 06-04-08 15:09pm

I agree; it's really not good to take medication that is prescription without going to a obgyn for this. By going to an obgyn you can save money in case if it isn't chlomid you need and something else. You can also make sure taking the medication won't cause any unnecessary health risks.

There are some at home remedies you can do to improve your chances of trying to conceive that don't need a prescription. Have you ever used preseed before? If you don't have a lot of egg white cervical mucous, or even if you do, this can drastically improve your chances of conceiving. It is very sperm friendly and helps keep the little guys alive.

Also, it may be your husband who has the problem (for example, low sperm count) and not you in which case the medication you are giving yourself is completely unnecessary.

I highly highly recommend going to a doctor, even though it may cost a bit. To have a happy, healthy child and pinpoint what may be wrong is well worth it.
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Strumphette

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Posted: 06-04-08 15:12pm

Your GP should have sent you to a Gyno long ago.
I thought most insurance covered things like maternity-you have a baby, the insurance company gets paid more because you added someone to your coverage. My surgeries were about $6000 each, that included anesthesiologist, etc. I think we ended up paying about $2000, but I think a lot of that depends on your deductible.
You may not need a specialist, just the gynocologist. I understand long waits to see Drs, my specialist was highly specialized serving many states, but the sooner you call, the sooner you can get an appt and find out what's going on. Just explain to the receptionist/scheduler the situation, sometimes they can squeeze you in sooner.
Good luck and lots of baby dust to you!
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Posted: 06-09-08 17:35pm

I think it is really dangerous to take prescription medications without medical supervision. You put your LIFE at risk. And with no life then there is no babies neither. And if you already have a kid then you need to make sure you are alive to help this one grow up. What if your hormone levels are fine and you don't need clomid? And then you have this amount of hormones flowing..you might be disrupting your already fine hormone production levels and what is worst may risk of getting cancers or damaging your reproductive system/liver because all those added chemicals are not going to do any good. Hope you really go to doctor.
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-09-08 20:23pm

Thank you to all of you who took the time to verbally lexure and attack me for making the decision to do this. I understand where you're coming from but the thing is, what's done is done. I had hoped to receive a bit of advice on how to handle things now that it is done. I would rather offer up advice on something I have knowledge of, to someone who has done something that I may not agree with, than to not offer up the advice that may help them and leave them feeling alone. But that's just me. Obviously I knew I was taking a chance with self-treatment, otherwise, I would be able to buy clomid at wal-mart on the check-out isle. I'm not ignorant, I was just taking a huge risk that frankly, after 9 long years of disappointment, I was more than willing to take.

On a better note... I got my BFP on Saturday, then again on Sunday, then again twice today. So far I'm feeling great, just craving salty things and feeling hungry several times throughout the day and having to go pee like every hour and bbs are very tender. CM is white and creamy. Oh, hot flashes too. (that's something I never had with the others) So, while it was a risk to do what I did, it was my risk to take, and in knowing my body so well, I felt comfortable enough to take the chance, and I thank God that I did. I wouldn't have changed anything except to use better judgment in my decision to ask for advice on this site. I can only pray that you all use kinder words of advice the next time someone in my situation comes to all of you for advice when she is scared. It is our character that defines us.

With all that said, I want to wish all of you many blessings to come. I pray that your journeys are not too long into motherhood and I hope that you all experience your wishes come true. Motherhood is a blessing each and every day. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.

I will not be posting any further updates here. I have found another site that is far more active and far less critical in judgement where I have chosen to share my stories of my journey ahead of me.

Blessings of baby dust to all,
TTCinFL
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Posted: 06-09-08 20:51pm

You got a BFP two days after you ovulated? That's not physically possible. You must have ovulated last month and conceived then, which means you did not ovulate on 6/4. Pregnant women do not ovulate. Having said that, congratulations on your pregnancy. After nine years it must be a great relief.

The women here did not attack you. They gave you advice on self-medicating because they were concerned for your health. There was no need to take it personally - the advice they gave you was sound.

I wish you the best of luck and a healthy pregnancy.
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Posted: 06-09-08 21:24pm

I am sorry you have had a bad experience on the forum. I too, have had some misunderstandings which have been corrected and the administration apologized for. This forum is just like any other - there are people who are sympathetic and tactful and then there are people who are ignorant and unsympathetic. Again, sorry you had a bad experience on the forum. Good luck and private message me if you want.
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Posted: 06-09-08 21:26pm

Also, I would love to know of the friendly forum you have found. Please private message me with this information. Again, I can understand your frustration.
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-09-08 21:27pm

thank you so much to you both. Smile
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Posted: 06-10-08 06:06am

There is a lot of people around the world who read this forum and it is our responsability to point when something said here can put the life of others in danger. No need to take is as an offense.
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Posted: 06-10-08 09:49am

I am sorry that you feel this way about our forum. However, we were merely pointing out the risk to your life. We had no way to know that you already knew it could be harmful to your body because you yourself didn't mention the risk. We don't want to be responsible for you becoming ill or having something bad happen to your body because we didn't tell you the risks that go along with what you are doing. We are just trying to keep you healthy, what this forum is all about. I know whats done is done, but you came here asking us about buying future medications online and more fertility treatments that are prescription only. By letting you know all the risks involved, we were just trying to keep you well informed about future decisions you are making, not just ones that have already been made. We were hoping to inform you so you do not make yourself ill in the FUTURE, since you were planning on doing the treatments again without consulting a doctor first.

Congrats on your BFP and have a happy healthy 9 months.
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-10-08 11:06am

I never asked about buying them, I had already bought them, I was asking about your experience with them. Scroll back up and read. Amazing. All that has been typed above this message and still nothing on the advice I asked about. I noticed that even the title of my post was changed as well. The title DID say "Advice needed on TTC". I never asked for anyone to give me the warnings of self-treatment. I really would like to ask that this topic be closed. I really want nothing further to do with this conversation, but people keep replying and when I'm notified by email I always end up once again having to defend myself. I feel I bowed out with quite a nice, friendly, peaceful post above. There is no need for further explanation for these attacks. (or wrather, I should call them harsh words of warnings?)
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Re: self-treatment of infertility
Posted: 06-10-08 11:12am

TTCinFL wrote:

I have found where I can order the pregnyl online from the same place I got my clomid. I'm thinking that if this clomid thing doesn't work, I'm going to try the pregnyl injections


This is where you stated that you were thinking about trying other medication without going to the doctor first, and it is what we were advising you on for your own health and safety in the future. I apologize if it's not what you wanted to hear, but you deserve to know about the risks involved with what you are doing. That is all. However, it doesn't matter now that you have your BFP; you won't have to continue self medicating yourself anyways. Good luck with your pregnancy!
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-10-08 11:14am

Thank you. Smile
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Posted: 06-10-08 11:19am

Also, please don't leave ehealthforum because of this! We were just trying to help; sorry if it sounded harsh. There are plenty of nice ladies in our pregnancy chats and we'd all love to get to know you more if you head over to those forums. You can tell your story and make tons of new great friends to help you on your pregnancy journey. Smile
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Posted: 06-10-08 18:12pm

I dont think that you are being attacked here. I think that you are over reacting to what is being said.

The topic titles get changed on here all the time, so dont get offended by that. The admin change them for several reasons. One reason is so that these topics can be found by search engines and the other reason is so that the post is not so vague.

Did you figure out how far you are and if you are a month further that you actually are?
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TTCinFL

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Posted: 06-10-08 18:24pm

Thank you very much for explaining those things to me. I guess I could have avoided all of this if I had just asked the right questions. (feeling not so nice right now)

Honestly, I have no idea how far along I am. I had my period last month, so I know that I couldn't have had a bfp last month, but I agree, it is waaaaay to early to tell a bfp now, although, I was only 4DPO with my son and 6 DPO with my daughter when the Dr confirmed my bfp by urine test first, then followed up with a blood test. I was told then that it was not uncommon for some women to feel every change their body is going through. (this is also the case when I am getting the flu or a cold, I feel it come on stronger minute by minute)

I have done a grand total of 12 early PT's in the past 4 days and they are all positive. Today it feels like my bbs are about to explode into flight from my chest any moment now. lol (sorry if tmi) I should start my period on the 18th, so I'm planning to stop testing and just wait until Sunday to do my next one. I know It would show up accurate by then, especially with me finding out so early with my other two.

If, for some reason, these are false positives and I have to TTC again next month, I intend to use the pregnyl along with the clomid. I know it is risky, but my body reacted very well to the clomid. I was just saying that... I plan to do this with or without any advice on proper use and I just hoped that I would be able to do it WITH advice to lessen my risk of doing something wrong like taking the pregnyl at the wrong time. I realize the risk involved, trust me, I do, and it makes me a bit nervous, but there is no way that I can possibly do this under doctors supervision. I wish to god that there were.

Since I realize that this is such a controversial topic, and I honestly don't want anyone to be offended or feel badly towards me, I promise not to mention the fact that I'm self-treating if I should happen to end up with accepting a false positive this time around. Smile

I am so thankful that you explained how things are around here. Now I don't feel quite so much in the dark and far less offended.

Hugs to all!
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Posted: 06-10-08 18:40pm

Congrats! If you have 12 bfps, as long as you didn't use any fertility treatments involving hcg hormones, it's safe to say you're pregnant! If you go to the doctor they will draw your blood to confirm your pregnancy and can tell you an estimate of how far along you are. You must be so excited after waiting so long for this! Nine years is such a long time; what wonderful news.
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