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stylist774

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severe breast infection ?
Posted: 07-10-08 23:21pm

About a year and a half ago my aunt fell on the handle of a vacuum cleaner which hit
her in the breast. Her breast was sore from it, and a couple of weeks later 2 sores
appeared where she had banged herself. Not long after discovering them, as odd as it sounds,
she was stung by a bee at the top of her breast. After the bee sting the sores got worse. She
managed to heal one of them, but the other continued to spread. My aunt isn't the brightest
person, and put all kinds of stuff on her breast to try and heal it- things like raw garlic,
and even mouthwash. Nothing helped and when it got really bad she went to the doctor, who told
her she might have breast cancer and should have a biopsy. She was scared, and didn't have
the biopsy. She kept putting things on it to try and heal, and then moved across country to
her other home. After the move her breast continued to get worse. It is now all folded up on
the bottom half, she has no nipple because it is almost as if her breast has swallowed itself.
The breast is hard as a rock, raised up as if she had an implant (but doesn't), and bright red. There is
discharge coming from the hole that is now huge and at the underneath. It bleeds often
and is hard to stop it once it starts. She is always in pain. Her arm and side are all
swollen. Her lymph nodes are swollen, and she now has a lump on her side, parallel to her breast.

She has had five more doctors look at it who all say it is definitely breast cancer,
but not one of them have done a biopsy to make sure. They look at it and say yes, this is
definitely breast cancer, no doubt about it. They haven't given her hope that it is much else-
even though this didn't start until she fell on the vacuum cleaner... and didn't start to get
really bad until after the bee sting.
I am a person that constantly questions... I know a lot of doctors have looked at it, but is it
possible to say that a person absolutely, positively has cancer if there has never been a biopsy?
With all the super infections like mrsr, staphylcoccus (sp?), or whatever, (and all the stuff she
rubbed into it... which she never mentioned to the dr's) could there be a chance
that this is just a really, really, bad infection?
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Posted: 07-11-08 02:32am

There is no breast infection that can last for more than a year. Symptoms you mentioned (no nipple, swelling, breast hardness, discharge coming from the hole, bleeding, swollen arm, swollen lymph nodes etc.) are typical for advanced breast cancer. It is true that only biopsy can confirm the diagnosis 100% sure but advanced cases like your aunt's case don't need biopsy. Her case is probably lost.
Neither vacuum cleaner nor the bee are responsible for your aunt breast cancer. Breast cancer can not be caused by any mechanic trauma. Etiology of breast cancer is still unknown. There are some evidences that is genetically conditioned. So, instead of doubting about your aunt's case you should start taking care about yourself. You should perform breast self-examination in front of a mirror every month. You should also consult a doctor once a year.
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stylist774

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Posted: 07-16-08 22:42pm

My aunt had a culture last week and it turns out that she has a serious life threatening infection, caused from 2 different strains of bacteria. She is being admitted to the hospital for intravenous antibiotic treatment. They will do a biopsy at some point just incase, but it seems that the true cause of her illness has been overlooked time and time again, as I suspected.
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Posted: 07-17-08 08:53am

I am sorry to hear that your aunt is ill. This indeed does sound like breast cancer. The puckering you describe is a clinical sign of breast cancer. The infection she has developed is probably related to the sores she developed after the initial injury. The antibiotics will clear up the infection. I hope she will allow the doctors to do a biopsy.
Let us know how she is!

If she is diagnosed with breast cancer you need to listen to what Dr. Nikola said and do self examinations monthly and get mammograms done as recommended by your gynecologist. As with anything, early intervention and treatment yield the best odds for a positive outcome.
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Posted: 07-18-08 03:43am

Bacterial infection can be a secondary complication to the primary disorder - breast cancer. I wish your ant to have only bacterial infection but I am scared that breast cancer could be the primary disorder. Anyway, it is good that she finally agreed to do biopsy so that precise diagnosis can be established.
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