suboxone for opiate addiction Posted: 03-11-08 22:54pm
Hi there everyone,
I have been here a couple of times. My son
has had an opiate addiction for 2 years
now.
He started suboxone 12 days ago. He is on
2mgs in the morning and 2mgs at night.
He has been doing well, but today (for
some reason) he said he just did not need
to take it.
I swear he used and told him so. He denied
it of course. I thought you could not get
'high' while on subox.
His last KNOWN FOR SURE dose was yesterday
late in the morning. He said he took it
last night, around 10:00pm but I did not
see him take it.
Any thoughts? Are my accustions
justified? or is it POSSIBLE that he could
skip an entire day. He is acting fine.
Little irritable when I asked if he
slipped up. but mostly acting fine.
Watching tv laughing and talking normal
mellow, not hyper like he was on oxy's
A bit confused?
Thanks for any advice or comments
h4j
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 03-14-08 14:50pm
Only thing that I can recommend is that
you make him take it right in front of
you. First check both his hands. Then make
him open his mouth and then look under his
tounge. Let him know you are concerned
enought to do this and that it is not
mistrust, just that you love him and want
him well and clean. I have found that
threatening does have a tendency to
backfire and they will retreat.
~Carrie~
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help4j
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 6
subox Posted: 03-14-08 23:10pm
Thanks carrie for your advice...'
He has been taking the last couple days
right in front of me... I guess this is
just part of watching your son try to kick
his addiction. My suspiscions get the best
of me sometimes.
I am waiting for a relapse and maybe I am
not being fair sometimes, but it is always
in my mind.
It is ultimatley up to him to keep on the
right track. It is hard, but who said it
would be easy ..
Thanks again for your reply
h4j
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marvin5
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reply to you Posted: 03-19-08 14:33pm
if he is a minor and living with you, make
sure he follows it UNDER your supervision
and that you see that he takes it. you
might even want to do a search of his room
when he is not home to see if you find
anything there.
also, get him into a 12 step program.
Alteen. the teen version of AA program.
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bbfeet9
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Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 62 Location: ,
Posted: 03-19-08 14:55pm
My 26 year old daughter just started a
soboxone treatment plan. She wanted
methodone but it shows up as an opiate in
the urine. She went from pot to coke to
oxys and her last trip was IV heroin use.
She went into rehab but left after 7 days,
she was supposed to stay 40 days. She is
trying to come clean to get her son back,
this is her bottom. She has several court
dates and appts. with mds. She is getting
into an out patient treatement center and
plans to work full time. I think the Judge
will give her drug court, i don't know,
but she says she will be ok with that. It
has been a nightmare here, just as i am
sure for you and your fam too. I hope your
son does not fall back into his old ways,
two years is a long time to be clean and
then fall. As far as your accusations, you
as a mom, are justified. We as moms do so
much to help our kids and when we think
they are back sliding our mom-dar goes
into action. Let him know what you are
thinking, so what if he gets upset, he'll
get over it. His health and safety is the
biggest concern. You have had two years of
good with him, i am just getting started
after 13 years of heartach. If he lives
with you, even better, you have more right
to get on him. Good luck with your son. I
hope he continues his progress.
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help4j
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Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 6
Thanks everyone! Posted: 03-24-08 01:06am
I am sorry I have not posted in a bit..
my son in 39 hours off the subox. Quick
taper over 23 days.
withdrawl is starting.
It is 2am here and he is awake, (so am I
for that matter)
He says he feels as though he is starting
to feel sleepy.
I am going to bed. I will know more
tomorrow.
Thanks everyone for your reply and
advice.
I dont know if I posted this earlier, but
anyway.... i drug tested him and he is
clean. everything.
I am proud of him. (although I am not done
with this)
ordering 25 drug test strips tomorrow and
he knows it too.
I am on his a** and he knows that as well
I know I can not make him do this, but I
sure as heck can give him a concequence
right?
I am having faith that he wants to be done
with his addiction. He has a life long
battle which drives me insane to think
about at this time.
One day at a time.. I defineltly get that
now. Oh how true those words are
My well wishes to all of you and thanks so
much for your replys.
I will be popping in to update.
j's mom
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 03-24-08 01:20am
Please do and let us know how he is doing.
Sound like with will power he just might
make it through this.
Suboxone is not hard to taper off from.
That is the reason it is used. It is
important to understand how it works, by
taking residence on the opiate receptor
sites, other opiates cannot get seated,
therefore they won't work. So, it is true
that we do not get high on Suboxone. I
was up to 24 mg daily and did not feel
high. however, I did feel normal which
means I was happy, with normal energy
levels, and without withdrawal signs and
symptoms. I also detect the need for
those who have family members who are
addicts of anykind to seek their own
therapy because they too become mentally
ill. That is why we see a great need to
fix and make the one who is the addict
well. Hope this helps some.
Suboxone is not hard to taper off from.
That is the reason it is used. It is
important to understand how it works, by
taking residence on the opiate receptor
sites, other opiates cannot get seated,
therefore they won't work. So, it is true
that we do not get high on Suboxone. I
was up to 24 mg daily and did not feel
high. however, I did feel normal which
means I was happy, with normal energy
levels, and without withdrawal signs and
symptoms. I also detect the need for
those who have family members who are
addicts of anykind to seek their own
therapy because they too become mentally
ill. That is why we see a great need to
fix and make the one who is the addict
well. Hope this helps some.
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TheCleaner
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Dont Be alarmed Posted: 08-31-08 10:21am
Hello there I am a 43 year old male who is
on sub at the time I wont get into how I
got on it but Im here too tell you he may
not be usen sub is a long term drug he may
not need the ammount he is on I only take
2mg a day and I do fine I am now detoxing
from that also and I came off from 150mg
of methadone a year or so ago and thats
where Im at now dont force him to take it
if its subotex he can still get high if
its suboxone he can not get high from
other opiates the receptors are
blocked,dont make him take it in front of
you because not trusting him is not good
give him a chance and then when you find
out he really is still usen then you step
in but remember this is his recovery not
yours he has to want it more than anything
in the world,myself I dont beleive you
need too worry unless he is going 3 or
more days without taking it.If he is like
me the sub gives him a headache at too
high of a dose and beleive it or not 4mg a
day is a high dose although theres folks
taken 24mg or more a day but myself im in
it to get out of it so Ive never taken
over 4mg a day and Ive been on 2mg for
about 3 months now..Good luck with your
son show him love affection and also show
him drug use will not be tolerated in your
house.