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ajames
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Location: Houston, Tx
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Can Someone Help Me??
Posted: 03-12-04 07:07am
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I have had anxiety problems for 4 years
now and have been able to deal with it
pretty good until a little over a year
ago. I would wake up feeling great and
then when I would take the dog outside I
could feel my pulse beating so fast that I
felt like I was going to pass out and then
the panic would come and then anxiety.
This is not the only thing that makes my
pulse beat to fast it allso does it after
eating and sometimes for know other reason
I could think of. This has been going on
for over a year and I told my husband that
I felt that something was wrong because it
is the fast pules that starts my anxiety
and panic. I had back surgery 6 weeks ago
and found out before that my iron was low
and was told that low iron can make your
pulse speed up very fast. Has anybody had
this problem with their pulse going to
fast because of low iron ????????? I have
been taking slow fe iron tablets with
orange juice every day and seems that I
have been doing better with the fast pulse
but when I started my monthly
cycle it was very heavy and then I started
to feel real bad with my pulse going very
fast. I told my husband that I felt that
my iron was low again and had it checked
and it was. I need some help with this
because I do not know anybody with low
iron problems and anxiety from it. I hope
somebody out there can help because this
is driving me nuts.
April
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Chinarose
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Posts: 33
Location: Louisiana
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Re: Can Someone Help Me??
Posted: 03-12-04 08:00am
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Please read my forum post on
discrimination against female patients. I
was told that I was having anxiety attacks
and put on zanax and anti-depressants.
Then I found out after 10 years that I
have a common and harmless heart condition
called valve prolapse. Usually a mitral
valve prolapse. More women than men have
it but men can have it also. It is
usually hereditary. And simple lifestyle
changes can usually reduce or get rid of
the symptoms. Panic attacks are real but
you should rule out physical problems
first before allowing a doctor to put you
on mind altering and sometimes addictive
drugs. I also suggest that you see a
cardiologist not a family doctor because I
saw several and none of them caught it.
Cardiologists are the experts in this
area. Those doctors had me thinking I was
crazy and I believe this stressed me out
so much that it contributed to my
temporary depression. Now I am doing
fine. I rarely have "attacks". I am no
longer depressed and I take no medicine.
I hope I have been of help to you. Please
let me know what you find out and how you
are doing. Best wishes!!
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ajames
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Location: Houston, Tx
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Thanks Chinarose
Posted: 03-12-04 08:20am
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Thanks for your reply but it will not help
because I allready have been to see a
cardiologist and every thing is great with
heart and all. I do not have any other
health problems that can be the cause
because I have allready had everything
checked. I just want to feel good again
and I am tired of the anxiety. It is like
I said before it starts from my pulse
beating to fast and have been told that it
is because of low iron.
April
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Chinarose
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Location: Louisiana
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April
Posted: 03-12-04 08:29am
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I am sorry that I could not be of help but
I completly understand how you feel about
wanting to feel normal. Are you taking
iron supplements? If you have and that is
not working then maybe it is an anxiety
attack. Do you smoke or drink alot of
caffine? These can cause your symptoms.
Just putting it out there. I hope that
someone will be able to help you. Good
luck!!!
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ajames
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Joined: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 48
Location: Houston, Tx
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Anxiety
Posted: 03-12-04 08:50am
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I do know all the do's and dont's and I do
not drink or smoke and I do not drink
caffine. I am on iron pills but was told
that it can take time to get the iron back
up. I went through a group years ago for
anxiety and did great until 4 years ago.
I know all the tools to deal with anxiety
and panic
but for some reason I can not get rid of
it and it is getting worse.
April
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Chinarose
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Location: Louisiana
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April
Posted: 03-12-04 09:06am
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Did you just stop going to the group or
did it just stop working for you? Maybe
therapy would be more benefitial for you.
Therapy can be very helpful for some
people. You may just have to experiment
with the different options giving them a
real chance to see if they work for you.
There are differebt kinds of therapy. Or
maybe you can take the parts of them that
work for you and combine them. Everone is
different. But there is hope and this is
not a hopeless situation. You may not
have the same beliefs as me but I believe
that god can do all things. And I believe
that he can heal you and direct you down
the right path for the help you need.God
gave us doctors and therapists for a
reason. He heals us using natural as well
as supernatural means. I hope that
sharing my beliefs with you does not
offend you but I believe these things to
be true. When all else fails and you
cannot count on anyone or anything you can
count on god. He cares about more than
just your soul but also your body, mind,
and emotions. And wants to help you like
a father wants to help his little girl
when she is hurting or suffering. I have
had this experience personally and know he
can do it. I hope you find the help and
hope you are looking for and that you will
be feed from this torment in your life.
Best wishes.
Melissa
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ajames
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Joined: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 48
Location: Houston, Tx
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Therapy
Posted: 03-12-04 11:04am
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I did not stop going to group therapy I
completed the course and was anxiety free
and drug free. The group was called
terrap and it cost around 2 thousand
dollars to go now. I belive there is hope
and I know that I will find the right cure
I just got to take one day at a time. I
am 39 years old and I survived tonsile
cancer and back surgery. The anxiety
started after I had a injection in my back
to help the pain from my back injury that
I got on the job in 1999. I was not told
that it was a epadorial because if I had
been told I would not have went home right
after they were finished. I was told to
go home and I thought the headache and
head pressure was normal until I realized
that something was wrong and tried calling
the doctor that to this day 4 years later
never called me back. I suffered a big
time panic attack the very next day and to
this day I can not get rid of them. I had
a hole left in my spine from the epadorial
that took 13 weeks for me to get a blood
patch to correct the problem ( workers
comp) it took 10 weeks for me to find out
what this doctor did to me and I could not
do anything to him because it was workers
comp. I do not have a chemical inbalance
and like I said before I know all the
right tools to dael with anxiety and all
the do's and dont's but I am lost as to
how to get rid of this problem. I still
feel it is because of low iron like the
doc said what is triggreing the anxiety
from the fast pulse rate (110)
april
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Haley
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Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 122
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Posted: 03-12-04 16:02pm
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My resting pulse was always over 100 bpm
until I got into a cbt group and really
starting to make progress curing all my
anxiety and panic (i suffer panic attacks
as well as general anxiety). You may want
to read the book we are using in my group,
been there, done that? Do this! By sam
obitz www.Tao3.Com I like it
because it is a short book and all the
chapters in it are short. The tea form
and a couple of the other exercises in it
have helped me start to reduce most of my
physical symptoms already. We have
several people in our group who suffer
from different forms of health anxiety as
well as people suffering from depression,
sad, ptsd and panic. I'm not familiar
with the stuff you did in the group you
mentioned but cbt is the most effective
treatment for anxiety disorders and does
not usually cost much money like that one
you were in before. Most groups last
12-weeks and mine is free other than the
cost of the two books we are using 
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ajames
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Joined: 17 Jan 2004
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Location: Houston, Tx
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Haley
Posted: 03-13-04 09:48am
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Thanks for the info about the book I will
get it. But at the same time I still am
looking to see if anyone out there has a
very high pulse rate from low
iron?????????? When I am sitting and at
rest my pulse is fine it only goes up when
I stand up and walk around. There is a
differance between pulse beeing high from
anxiety/panic and a health problem such as
low iron. They say low iron will make you
tired and cause headaches and cause high
pulse. I am hopeing that someone out
there has had this problem with low iron
and knows what I am talking about. The
high pulse starts my anxiety and I know
that it is the low iron causeing it.
Because when my iron was fine I had
anxiety and did not have the crazy pulse
so I can tell the differance. We all know
the differance because a person with
anxiety is in fine tune with their body
and any little thing can set off anxiety.
I hope someone can help. For everybody
that has replyed I thank you all for the
info that has been given.
April
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purple333
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Posts: 1420
Location: Sydney
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Posted: 03-13-04 16:22pm
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April,
first I have had low iron levels all my
life (diagnosed at 15) & i'm 48 &
I also have anxiety attacks, ocd,
depression & my pulse often races. I
can't take any iron supplements or even
eat alot of iron rich foods because all
that gives me is diarrhoea!! Which means
that I lose not only the iron but any
nutrients etc from other food I have eaten
& so I end up worse off!! So I am
basically worse of than you but suffer
some of the same things.
In reading all of the posts, the thing
that struck me most was that while in some
cases you have checked alternative causes
out & in some cases you are open to
suggestions - you are asking for help but
not really listening to suggestions. I
say this because I believe that if anyone
wants help they must make sure that they
are truly open to accepting it &
trying it. You were willing to check out
the book on cbt (great) but you seemed
unwilling to consider some other things.
Please just think about where your head is
at & why in some instances you seem so
closed to accepting suggestions that might
help.
Anyway, now for my 2 bits worth. Try the
cbt book & see if there's a course
near you. But, also try increasing your
intake of iron rich foods in the week
before & during your period so that
the blood & subsequent iron loss may
not affect you so badly. Do the same
anytime you say need surgery or lose blood
for any other reason. I think it would be
worth considering also that while you are
abit young you could be starting menopause
(illness can lead to early menopause even
if your family genes would normally lead
it to be later).
The other thing that I would suggest is
trying a natural therapy eg naturopathy
which might help with your iron/pulse etc
& also something like 5htp, dhea,
sam-e, vitamin b's all of which are
natural destressors (the sam-e might also
help your back problem!!) - you are
stressed - think about this for a minute
before denying it - you have a problem
which is worrying you - that causes stress
(plus I assume you don't live in a bubble
removed from any other life stress &
you mention a back injury so i'm guessing
some pain??) - so you do have stress in
your life & stress can cause
sooooooooo many different reactions in us
that it's worth rtying something that will
reduce stress & see if it helps with
your other problems.
Good luck, sorry for the harangue.
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ajames
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Location: Houston, Tx
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Purple
Posted: 03-14-04 09:14am
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Thanks for the time you took to give your
help. First of all sorry to hear that you
are worse off than I am. Low iron is what
I have been talking about from the start
and thats what I have been asking for help
with
anyone with this problem causeing
anxiety.
Yes I am asking for help and I am open to
suggestions and I do listen to what is
said. And I have checked out every
alternative causes that their could be. I
know where my head is and I have tried
even biofeedback
and other things that are not listed so
you can not say that I am not open
to suggestions that may help because I am
not closed to anything. I do not want to
sound rude but this is the way I feel
about what you said about me and that is
not true.
I am going to try the book and I am going
to see if their is a group near me. The
doctor has me on iron inriched foods and
pills and the doctor allready said that I
do not have early menopause. Like I said
I have had everything that you can think
of checked to rule out any problems. I
think you for bringing that up because
that was something that I asked the doctor
about was menopause because I thought that
could be the problem.
I will talk to the doctor about the
natural therapy and see about trying that
as far as my back I am not stressed out
about the pain. I took 6 weeks of pain
management and it did me a lot of good I
deal with pain very good
and I live a very happy life and do not
have the stress most people would have in
my case (everybody is different) so I do
not have a problem denying that. I have
anxiety stress and that is it. I hope you
do not take all this I am saying to be
rude and not wanting to try things because
I have been there done that and the only
thing I was looking for was someone that
had the same problem with low iron that
triggered anxiety.
Thanks for you help april
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qt3
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Posts: 264
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Re: Haley
Posted: 03-16-04 09:46am
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wrote: | thanks for the info about
the book I will get it. But at the same
time I still am looking to see if anyone
out there has a very high pulse rate from
low iron?????????? When I am sitting and
at rest my pulse is fine it only goes up
when I stand up and walk around. There
is a differance between pulse beeing high
from anxiety/panic and a health problem
such as low iron. They say low iron will
make you tired and cause headaches and
cause high pulse. I am hopeing that
someone out there has had this problem
with low iron and knows what I am talking
about. The high pulse starts my anxiety
and I know that it is the low iron
causeing it. Because when my iron was
fine I had anxiety and did not have the
crazy pulse so I can tell the differance.
We all know the differance because a
person with anxiety is in fine tune with
their body and any little thing can set
off anxiety. I hope someone can help.
For everybody that has replyed I thank you
all for the info that has been given.
April |
hi april-
i always had a high pulse but just from
anxiety and then it got even worse once I
started taking anti-depressants. No one
even mentioned a link to iron in my case.
I struggled for many years with panic,
anxiety and depression as well and cbt was
what changed my life and got me off all
meds. My resting pulse rate is now in the
mid 60's which is great for me. If you
are interested in giving cbt a try i'd
recommend the obitz book as it is a great
introductory book and a quick read and or
getting involved in a group
take care!
Q
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ajames
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Joined: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 48
Location: Houston, Tx
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Group For Anxiety
Posted: 03-17-04 05:00am
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Hi qt3
thanks for your help and I hope to feel as
good as you do soon
i have been trying to find a group in the
houston texas area and have not had any
luck is there anybody in the houston area
that knows where there is a group  I
allso went to barnes and noble to buy the
sam obitz
book and they do not have it. Is this a
book that has to be ordered
april
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insurancegirl
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Posts: 5286
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Posted: 03-17-04 05:05am
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Once again, this is similar to what I
have. I get that prob with my heart
racing too, but then I go numb, get hot
flashes, and everything. I went to the
hospital and found nothing so they
diagnosed me with anxiety, in which I
think I b/s because it will happen even
when I am not feeling stressed. I just
don't get it!
Jennifer 
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ajames
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Posts: 48
Location: Houston, Tx
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Insurancegirl
Posted: 03-17-04 05:31am
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I get numb in both arms and face and allso
get hot. What I do when this happens I
tell myself that everything is ok and I
get a ice pack and put it on my chest
while I lay down and it helps calm me
down. Some times I have to wait until I
can stand up to go get the ice pack
because if I try to walk I will go into a
full blown attack because of my heart
beating to fast. It feels like I will
pass out and the worse part it feels like
I am going to die.
I use to drink everyday until one morning
I got up to go to the bathroom and my
heart raced so fast that it scared me so
bad that I quit drinking.It was beeting so
very fast for at least 2 hours even after
takeing xanax. I will never drink again.
I have been sober for 5 months and I do
not have the urge to drink. Hope we all
get well soon.
April
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004
Posts: 4580
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I Understand!
Posted: 03-17-04 06:17am
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Hi there! I do understand! I am a very
anxious and hyper person myself and I am
almost 52 years young but I know by
experiance that you have to put it under
some control, if you don't it will eat you
up not only physically but mentally and
you must understand that we all need a
little help sometimes, and their is
nothing wrong with that and we are not
crazy! You might try to check out emdr
that is where they do the knee taping, and
we all have situations in the past, this
takes you back to the time where something
happened you and you go back to that time
and you release it, you do get a nice
feeling of release this is done by some
psychologists, it does help. Generally
if you do go to a regular doctor all they
do is prescribe meds which some meds do
help but a lot of these pills cause side
effects so then he has to prescribe
another med and this goes on and on. You
might also try breathing exercises if they
are done correctly they help along with a
relaxing tape this also helps with pain!
Also try yoga it helps! I am not a
doctor but I know from experience! Just
tell yourself today is the first day of
the rest of my life and I must do
something for #1 (this means you) if you
don't you have no one to blame but
yourself! I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
sandy
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Haley
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Posts: 122
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Posted: 03-17-04 16:09pm
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Hi ajames, i'm in oregon so I don't know
of any groups in your area, sorry! I
think you can only get the sam obitz book
directly through its website
(www.Tao3.Com) that's where I got my copy
and it came really fast eventhough the
website says it may take a week or two I
got mine in a matter of days. I'm in the
ninth week of my cbt group and weaning off
drugs and feeling great, so I think if you
work hard at the exercises like I have you
will be feeling well soon 
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qt3
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Re: Group For Anxiety
Posted: 03-24-04 08:12am
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wrote: | hi qt3
thanks for your help and I hope to feel as
good as you do soon
i have been trying to find a group in the
houston texas area and have not had any
luck is there anybody in the houston area
that knows where there is a group I
allso went to barnes and noble to buy the
sam obitz
book and they do not have it. Is this a
book that has to be ordered
april |
hi april-
i'm in california and don't know much
about cbt options in the houston area  you may want to
call the university of houston or one of
the other big universities in texas to see
if they have a cbt program and can point
you toward help in houston. I ordered the
sam obitz book through the publishers
website www.Tao3.Com. I hope
you are doing well :p
q
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sandyallen
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Hi Haley!
Posted: 04-04-04 08:43am
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I am in oregon too, what part of or do you
live in? I hope it is nicer than g.P.
We did like rogue river though, we went
to portland last month I could not live
their, it is ucky! Woops I am a litle
bit off the forum I will get back to it.
Ajames, I hope you are doing better! Do
you like houston, I was their a few times
I had the best haircut I ever had, it was
a real experience, they hung me upside
down by my heels, we went to woodlands tx
woops their I go again I am getting off
the subject.
Later all,
sandy
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Haley
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Posts: 122
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Posted: 04-06-04 10:31am
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Hi sandy, I am in portland and I actually
like living here. I admit there are some
ucky parts, but there are some real
treasured areas as well what part did you
hate so much? I've never really been to
grants pass but I have heard the rogue
river is known for its roaring rapids and
is quite scenic. That haircut story
cracked me up so much I had to make sure
your n ote was not written on april fools
day:)
was that for real?
Ajames, I hope you are doing better and
cbt is helping you like it is me? I've
only got two more sessions to go in my cbt
group and I can't say enough about what it
is doing for me. I'm still not completely
off my meds but I will be in another week
and my group leader says I am doing great
and I feel great.
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