Stuck In a Messed Up Relationship Posted: 08-01-07 19:05pm
I've been with my boyfriend for nearly 6
months now. I used to be totally against
relationships, since i already had a bad
past to ensure that i was depressed for
the rest of my life nearly making me
suicidal. But when i met him, i hoped
things would change for the better. I'm 19
and he's 29.
In the beginning the relationship was
alright. It was long distance to start of
with, but i started visiting him a
lot--atleast as much as i could. In the
beginning, he would tell all his friends
that i loved him but he was unsure. And
then sometime later he told them that no
matter what happens, he can love me, but
never as much as how much i love him. And
he told me all this. I was deeply hurt but
kept quiet. One day, out of the blue, he
asked me to marry him. Since i love him
more than anything else in the world, i
could never say no to the thought of being
with me.
Now, he had a girlfriend 3-4 years back.
It had to end because she had to marry the
guy of her parent's choice. Even though,
the lost touch after her marraige it
seemed to me like he was not over her.
Once when i told him that i loved him, he
said that his ex would make him weak in
his knees 50 years later. Afterwards when
i asked him about it, he said that, he
didn't hear me telling him that i loved
him, and what he said about his ex was
just conversationally.
Another time when i said i was walking out
of the relationship because i thought he
wasn't over her and that he ought to be
with her, he said that i could leave if i
wanted to but not blame his ex for it.
Later, when i asked him about it, he
claimed to have said it in a fit of rage
and not meant it.
Another time, when i told him that i
trusted him more than anything else in the
world, he said that the last time he'd
said that to someone was his ex.
Frustrated by all this, i spoke to his
best friend, a common acquaintance about
this. And my boyfriend then sent both me,
and his best friend, an email 'defending
himself' saying that he was over her. But
still in the email, he said things like 'I
know i like her', 'She is one of the most
amazing woman in the world', etc. The only
mention of me was that he'd stay with me,
and not go back to her, because when she
got married they'd sworn not to intrude
into each other's lives.
His ex is supposedly 'one of the most
amazing women in the world' according to
him, while i only have the distinction of
being the only woman to have angered him
enough, sometimes angry enough to make him
physically violent.
I've done everything i could to be with
him. I left my college. Fought with my
parents, who abused me all through my
childhood. I moved in with him. Took a job
with him. I've tried making this work, but
its still messed up. it makes me feel like
the lowest form on the earth. Like i'll
neevr be loved and just be a burden in
everyone's life.
I have 2 questions:
a.) is it just my imagination or is he
really not over his ex like he claims.
b.) Is there any point of being in this
relationship?
Thanks for bothering to read this.
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Re: Stuck In a Messed-up Relationship Posted: 08-01-07 20:42pm
In the interest of disclosure I am a
50-year-old woman who has been through
something like this awhile ago. I can
give you the benefit of my experience and
some advice, but the advice is worth
exactly what you paid for it (IOW,
nothing).
OK, let's go back to your message.
1. You're 19 and he's 29. You've
graduated high school and are either in
post-secondary education or working. He's
been out of school for awhile, been in the
working world and had experiences that you
have yet to go through.
2. When I was your age (don't you just
hate that phrase?), I had been pretty much
against relationships. In high school I
was "one of the guys" since my interests
were more "guy-like" and they accepted me
more than the silly girls did (I did have
some close girl friends who accepted me
for who I was). Being one of the guys had
its plusses and minuses. The biggest
minus was that they'd never consider me as
a possibility for a date and they cried on
my shoulder when their relationships were
going south. Talk about a dagger to the
heart!
3. Then I went to college and thought
this guy in one my classes was kind of
cute and very smart. It was hard to get
the courage up to have him come over and
help me (we were going to a commuter
campus) but I did. Nothing came out of
it. In sophomore year we were in another
class and he had opened up more. Very
friendly, still very nice, still made me
melt--and a friend of mine stole him away.
He had ambitions to go to med school and
she wanted to ride his coat-tails to the
big bucks. When he decided not to go
(several years later) she dropped him
cold. He found someone infinitely better
and married her.
4. Long-distance relationships are very
tricky. My best friend told her cousin I
was coming for a visit (this was
1,000-plus trip to Sarasota, Florida) and
he offered his hospitality. I was there
for a week and something clicked somehow.
Except for the time he was at work we were
inseperable. I cried when I left him and
decided that one way or another we would
see each other again. We spent the summer
writing and calling. I realized that the
only way we could really give this thing a
chance was to get together so I moved
there. The first couple of months were
sheer heaven. Then reality set in--the
differences began to manifest themselves
and whilst I tried to be open to him he
would not be open to me. We ended up
breaking up about five months after I got
down there. Actually, I wasn't
heartbroken--I had cried for so long
towards the end that I went on a six-week
high, like a tremendous weight had been
removed from me.
5. Early in your message he seemed to be
honest about his feelings towards you.
The relationship wasn't "equal". I know
how much that hurt you but at least he
initially wasn't telling you one thing and
doing another.
6. Then, somewhere in this six-month
period he asks you to marry him. Men
aren't usually that subtle. Some set of
circumstances caused these words to be
said. Normally they're agonized over for
some time because it is a big step for
both.
7. At some time in his past he had this
other relationship and it appears that
he's either not over it or they're
friends. Either way you feel threatened
and afraid of losing him. Unfortunately
there's nothing you can do to make you
stay with him. If he wants to stay, he
will. But it has to be all or nothing.
He can't come running back to you every
time he and this other woman have some
kind of disagreement.
All that being said, and in answer to your
questions:
1. Based on what you've written it
appears he's not over her and may not be
for awhile, if ever. You have to accept
it. You don't have to LIKE it, you have
to accept it.
2. The only reason one would want to be
in this relationship would be if one
enjoyed being a doormat or was a
masochist. Surely you have *some* pride
somewhete. It may be beaten down inside
you but it is there.
So, what to do?
1. Move out, stay as far away from him as
possible. Avoid mutual friends who may
not mean to hurt you by giving you the
lowdown on him but end up still hurting
you.
2. Eriase his cell phone number from your
phone, erase his address. Get an
unlisted, unpublished telephone number so
he can't reach you.
3. Mourn the loss as long as you need to.
Keep a journal (I did when my first "True
Love" and I broke up after four years of
being together) and pour out your heart.
4. If you have any trusted friends, now
is the time to call in your chits and have
them become your support group.
5. One day you'll have to decide that you
need to get on the path to wellness. How?
Force yourself to be around people, even
it's only a trip to the library or doing a
mall crawl. Just to be around others and
not be so lonely by yourself.
6. Give yourself a few short-term goals
to meet. Nothing earth-shaking, jsut
little thihngs like, I want to call him
but I won't. Find something else to do.
Once you can cut that string you're making
good progress on your journey to
wellness.
7. See how you can get back into post
secondary education--scholarships, grants?
You're prolly an independent minor and
may be eligible for some kind of financial
assistance.
8. Ever been interested in doing
something but decided against it? Now's
the time to explore the world around you.
Join organizations, meet new people with
whom you can develop common interests. Do
volunteer work--you never know where that
can lead to (an aside: I volunteered to
work at a radio station for the blind and
handicapped where I grew up. The best,
the BEST job I ever had. The program
director wrote a book about radio in our
area and asked for a photo of me. When
the book was published a copy was put into
the Library of Congress. I saw the book
and my picture. My one "claim to fame" is
being in the library of Congress. It may
not mean much to anyone but it does to
me.
9. You are on the cusp of adulthood and
have so far to go. So many new people to
make, so many new experiences to have.
You're kind of "unformed" and can make
your own choices. And learn from your
mistakes. Yes, you feel abandonded
(sometime a bad relationship is better
than none--I've been in that situation
more than once) but somehow you have to
take that situation and make it work in
your favor.
I have a male friend we've been friends
for 27-28 years (I met him at my first
job). We were close (not that close as he
was married) and have kept in touch all
these years. He discovered IM earlier
this year and for awhile we were on
several times a week catching up. Then a
few weeks later he had some kind of mental
crisis and decided to finally seek help.
Since then he has clammed up. He says
it's nothing personal but all I could feel
was hurt and terrible disappointment. We
couldn't share confidences anymore (his
rules). I was shaken to my core and for
the first six weeks I cried every day when
I was alone. What made it worse is that I
couldn't talk to anyone about this, whilst
he was finally seeing a therapist. I felt
so alone, full of self-hatred and
self-loathing. No thoughts of suicide
though. That would be too easy and I knew
I'd be doing the wrong thing.
I got tired of crying so much and waiting
on the Net for him to come on-line to talk
about nothing. I started exercising and
set some goals for myself that don't
necessarily involve him. I did promise I
would be thee if ever he needed me and
would support him every step of the way
(except I don't know what steps they
are--he won't talk about them). I also
post to this forum hoping that the reader
can get some kind of comfort from these
words.
Making the first steps are always the most
difficult but you cn do it. You'll fall
back a few times but learn from your
mistakes. Over time (and I can't tell you
how long) you'll feel better. It will be
such a gradual change--that's where
keeping the journal/diary helps. You can
followi things over time.
If you need to talk please feel free to PM
me. I've been there more than once and am
willing to lend an ear. I'm not a mental
health professional but maybe I can offer
you some practical advice.
Good luck and keep posting.
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 08-02-07 07:03am
Your right,he's wrong. It definetly sounds
to me like e isn't over her.after all,why
would he say all those things.Even if he
didn't hear you say I love you that was
nothing for him to say to you.I don't
think he's over her and I think your
basically there to sooth his soul. You can
leave him but 'not blame her'. . .no you
can't blame her but you can definetly
blame him! If a man ever again treated me
lie your being treated I'd turn away and
not look back.you deserve to be treated
way better than this. I know you had a
rough past huin,but you have to do things
to better yourself.Forget him.I know you
love him but its so much better to be with
someone who shows you the same love you
have for them.Its an awesoem feeling not
to feel as though your a burden or not
good enough or only getting 50% back on
your relationship.You can find someone so
much better who wont play games with your
heart! good luck!