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AMAZINGSTAR

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Posted: 03-15-04 17:02pm

Hi,im really sorry but this post is going to be quite long so please bare with me.
About three years ago I suffered my first major bout of depression.Alot of things happened to me all at the same time (including a family death) and I couldnt really cope very well,i even atempted suicide.I struggled along for a few months.But it just got too hard.I was put on prozac and I did begin to feel better.A few months passed and I slowly weaned myself off them.I was ok then I had another spout (im wondering if going on prozac in the frist place has made alot of my problems worse.
Anyway I went back on the med for a few more months.I weaned myself off them again and I was doing ok again.I did something absolutel stupid and something I cant forgive myself for.In fact I really hate myself and because of it I feel I dont deserve to live.I had a faboulus boyfriend,ahouse,a dog.I stupidly cheated on him with a guy from work.I couldnt keep it in and wanted to tell the truth to my boyfriend.I told him and I lost him.That was almost a year ago.Nd ever since then it has been a major major struggle to even get out of bed.I think I still love him.He doesnt want me.(not surprsing really) I cant bbeliev what I have done.It screwed me up so much I have had councelling.It helped fr a while but lately I have been feeling so so down.The stupid thing is im still with the (thr guy from work) what am I doing? I feel so stupid,alone and pathetic.This morning has got to be the worst morning.I feel caca.I feel numb,i feel like crying,i feel sick,loss of appetite,loss of interest in my job (which I love) loss of sex drive,i dont sleep properly.I hate what I have done.I hate what I am.Another thing to make matters worse is.My sister is getting married in two weeks.My family are really excited.It makes me feel sick.I dont hink I will ever find someone else like I had.I will never settle with someone.The only thing that is keeping me going at the moment is the wedding.If it wernt for that I probably would have attempted suicde again.My best friends know I have and do suffer from depression and they are there for me.I want to talk to me sister but I dont want to spoil her big day.Me and my sister used to be quite close but I feel like we have drifted apart now this also upsets me a great deal.I feel I dont have a very good qulity of life at the moment.It sounds absolutly bizzare but one day I can feel so so so low or this can go on for a few dyas and then I will get a good day.Im moody im very very snappy.
My dad,has had numerous affiars behind my mums back.I cuagt him the other night in a video store he didnt see me.I cought him with another woman.Even though I know what he gets up to it made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach.I dont want to be like him.But so far I have already done the first steps.This is anohter factor.I dont want to be like him and sometimes I see the only way of stopping that is if I wasnt here.
Pretty soon my sister we want children.I just dont see all this stuff happening to me.I feel like I am just a big big let down to my family and friends.I really really dont want to go back on the prozac,so far I have manged for over a year without taking it.Unfortunetly my dad suffers from depression to.So could this be hereditry.Why do I have to feel like this everyday?Like ive just been told someone has died? I feel heavy,tired,down.All I do in my spare time is go to bed I get in bed and lay there.I sometimes sleep through the day and lie awake at night.I cant beleive what I have done.What I have lost.The guy im with is not a bad guy.I just dont know where its going.Ive tryed finishing it but I just cant physically seem to do it.Any help would be appreciated.
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qt3

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Joined: 14 Nov 2003
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Cbt
Posted: 03-16-04 09:17am

The answer for me was cognitive behavioral therapy (cbt). I was on meds for many years before I found cbt and it cured me and got me off meds in a remarkably short period of time. Best of all once you learn the tools in cbt you have them forever so you are able to give yourself relief almost instantly whenever you are feeling stressed, anxious or down. It's all about using the tools to learn to think more clearly and accurately about things and once you do your anxiety, panic and depression will miraculously begin to lift before your eyes. My favorite starter book on cbt is "been there, done that? Do this! By sam obitz like anything in life the more you put in the more you get out of cbt. The obitz book also has a couple of good chapters in the back on suicide that may help you. As the back of the book says in big lketters: you can change your future but you can't change your past :d

good luck!


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Haley

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Posted: 03-17-04 16:07pm

I have to agree with qt3. I'm in the ninth week of my cbt group and weaning off drugs and feeling great. The two books we are using in my group are really good and I would recommend them both highly: been there, done that? Do this! By sam obitz and mastery of your anxiety and panic-third edition by michelle craske and david barlow if you suffer panic disorder as well.
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AMAZINGSTAR

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Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Just Feel So Down
Posted: 03-17-04 16:17pm

Thankyou to both of you for replying to me.I just feel so down.The wedding is in less than two weeks.Its my sisteres wedding and I should be feeling so happy and excited but instead I feel depressed and down.Im at work at the moment.All I want to do is go back to bed and sleep so I can shut everything off.I feel like I dont want to be here.I dont see the point anymore.I sincerly feel I have lost someone I was meant to be.I dont hink I iwll ever find anyone again.I feel so sick all the time.The rate im going my dressis going to fit by the wedding but I dont really care.I hate my life,i hate what ive become.Im lonely.No one couldnt really care what happens to me really.
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qt3

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I Care!
Posted: 03-18-04 02:12am

I care and i'm sure a lot of others that you do not realize do too Smile it's the way you are thinking about things that is making you so miserable more than the things that are happening. Please try and find a local cbt based support group as they will teach you how to think more objectively as right now I can tell you are blowing things out of proportion which is one of the most common thinking errors people make. I've been there and it is not fun but cbt can give you the tools you need to change how you think in a short period time and learn to enjoy life more. You have a bright future, but right now you are in a fog and can't see it clearly Shocked

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misterlighthouse

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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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My Two Cents
Posted: 03-19-04 18:27pm

That book "been there, done that? Do this!" is a fine book, I got a lot out of sam obitzs book. Also nothing beats talking things out with a friend or trained psychologist, in my opinion. So many of our mental problems boil down to not being able to accept that a proverbial 2+2=4

accept all things in life- both good and bad.... Imo :p
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purple333

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Posted: 03-19-04 21:56pm

If we didn't care we wouldn't bother posting so you see there are people who care & we're just strangers, I know your family & friends care too!

I know what you mean about sleeping all day & staying up at night & not feeling like there's anything worth living for, but there is - you!! But I also know that right now you do not believe that so stay alive & start working on getting bettr for the sake of your family & friends. Your sister needs you, & if she has kids they will have awonderful aunt, remember, even if you were still with your former b/f you may not have had kids for all sorts of reasons but you can still be the greatest aunt!!

How do you get better, well apart from cbt, there are alot of things you can do. I beleieve that when we're really down we need to take "baby steps" we aren't ready or capable of taking big ones.

Some suggestions of baby steps are: print out or buy some smilies & put them all over the place :d I know it sounds corny but a smile releases chemicals in our brains that make us feel better so the more you :d smile :d the better you feel.

You can also practise smiling at yourself in the mirror (pull some silly faces!! Rolling Eyes )

then there's exercise, even taking a walk, especially around sunrise *again releases chemicals to reduce stress/depression). :p

also there's several natural anti-depressants you can take; vitamin b's, 5htp (tryptophan), sam-e (all can be checked on the net). Shocked

don't make any major life decisions like moving, changing jobs, leaving current guy. You know if you're half as bad as you say you must be terrible to be around so how come he's still there?? Confused Surprised maybe he really cares & maybe he's worth sticking around for then when you feel better & you will (so long as you take "baby steps" & work on yourself, it won't happen without you) then you can decide whether maybe this guy is better than you are giving him credit for. :d
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swissmiss

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Sending a Hug....
Posted: 03-19-04 23:19pm

The first thing you have to do is realize that you are just beating your head against a wall. Everybody does things in life that we regret, but I guarantee you that we learn something that we need to everytime. You are also not a slave to the mistakes that your father makes. Every situation that life offers us gives us a chance to make new choices about how we live, and to change our endless cycles of destruction. Expecting that you have inherited the cheating or depression from your father can help you to make excuses, but that will never heal you.You don't have to expect yourself to change everything in one day, but the longer that you dwell on the past, the worse that your health & vitality & peace of mind will suffer. No wonder you can get out of bed!, you're not reminding yourself of all the reasons to live! Stop running away from your life, take it for all it's downfalls, and it's beauty too. Give yourself the love & forgiveness that you deserve. Life isn't punishing you, you are punishing yourself, and there is so much beauty in life to enjoy.....Starting with your sister's wedding for example.
I send you lots of love and good vibes for healing, june

p.S. There is a book called "energy anatomy" by caroline myss that may help you to better realize that you are not alone, and help you to heal Smile peace
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Haley

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Posted: 03-23-04 11:12am

I think it is obvious a lot of people care based on the latest responses, but the only person who can make you feel better is you and that requires some effort. So get involved in cbt or buy that book swissmiss mentioned or try some of purple333 suggestions but do something!
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2ferano

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Posted: 03-23-04 11:38am

When you are severely depressed the last thing you are is motivated! Much easier said then done.
I would talk to your doctor about being put on meds that will actually help your situation. All you have to do is swallow them. Then once you start to feel more like you, look into cbt or counseling or whatever you think will help your situation. Meds are not "the answer" but they should help give you at least enough motivation to try to help yourself. That is one of my biggest problems. I want to be cured, but I don't have the energy to work for it.
Hope you feel better! Just know you are definately not alone.
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qt3

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Posted: 03-24-04 08:32am

hotasfrick wrote:
when you are severely depressed the last thing you are is motivated! Much easier said then done.
I would talk to your doctor about being put on meds that will actually help your situation. All you have to do is swallow them. Then once you start to feel more like you, look into cbt or counseling or whatever you think will help your situation. Meds are not "the answer" but they should help give you at least enough motivation to try to help yourself. That is one of my biggest problems. I want to be cured, but I don't have the energy to work for it.
Hope you feel better! Just know you are definately not alone.


i agree with hotasfrick-
i was on meds before and during the time I learned cbt and probably would not have ever made it to the point I learned cbt were it not for meds!

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