Minor Complications And Set Backs Since Surgery Posted: 09-09-07 02:16am
At 3 week post op visit, I was still doing
great and felt like a whole new person.
given pt prescription and started PT.
Didn't realize how weak the muscles where
that I hadn't been using till then and
find out that I hadn't been using them for
quite a few years.
A couple of weeks into PT, the first
complication arouse. I suddenly started
having floaters in my right eye. I was
aware that this could happen because of
the position you are put in during spinal
surgery puts a terrible strain on the
retinas and combined with my age, I was 56
there was a 50% chance that it would
happen. That means 100% for me.
So off to the eye doc to be checked for
tears or detachment and have been
monitored frequently since. It also put
restrictions on some of the exercises I
could do then and can do know for my back.
That's resulted in not regaining strength
in some of the muscle in my butt and it
has become permenently weakend and will
always give me a bit of discomfort to low
level pain.
Then in mid to end August, I started
noticing pain in both ankles, right worse
than left and tingling in my feet again,
right worse than left. Called the doc and
he wanted me to see the foot and ankle
ortho in the office and he would see me
also.
This was not directly a spine problem but
caused by correcting the spinal stenosis
and standing up correctly again and now
standing on my feet properly. They had
gotten used to the way I stood, which no
one noticed as not being completly
straight and now I was putting lots of
strain on the muscles, ligaments and
nerves in my feet and ankles. DX: tarsal
tunnel syndrome, very common after spinal
surgery. Treatment was custom orthotics
and PT for my feet. Great, had just
finished my PT for my back and I'm back
there with new problems. That's after 2
years there for my arms. Oh, and need
good shoes, either walking or cross
trainers only and they prefer walking
ones, the good ones from New Balance.
So have the orthotics, have the shoes, did
the PT and if I'm on my feet for hours on
end they can be a problem and I do
exercises for them too.
So all is going fine and I'm back to a
life, a little slower than it used to be,
but feeling great and so happy to have had
the surgery.
then I started feeling some discomfort in
my right hip. something new and never had
that before. afraid there is something
wrong with the spine again and call the
doc. This was in May of 2007.
Go into the doc and have xrays to find out
I know have bursitis in my right hip.
Gives me a cortisone shot into my right
hip, works great and I loose bladder
control from the cortisone for 25 hours.
And you guessed it, back to PT for the
hip. beginning to think I should just
move my bed into the place.
Get that going and now I'm doing exercises
for my arms, hands and wrist, my back, my
feet and now my hip every day. 4 hours in
total of them and I spread them out over
the day.
I thought i was pretty good with the don't
overdo bit, but and I mean but.
I really blew it this time.
Since before my spine went, we had to get
rid of my car. Hey 20 years with a toyota
camry and it all went at once. So when I
want the car, I have to drive my hubby to
work and pick him up. We where getting
another car for me but that's on hold
now.
4 weeks ago, I took him to work and came
home. Went out to a doctors appt. and
after there, did a bunch of errands. In
and out of the car and driving for a
couple of hours. Came home walked around
my gardens, came in and by daughter came
by to visit and we where going out for
dinner for dad's birthday. Watered the
gardens, we drove back to get hubby, went
to dinner, came home, daughter went home,
checked e-mail heard the news, took a
shower and went to bed.
About 3 hours later, I must have moved in
my sleep and woke up with a scream of pain
in my butt, OMG did it hurt. Couldn't
move, couldn't sit, thought holy crap,
what did I do. Got out of bed, came down,
put my rice sock on it and it felt better,
but couldn't sit had to tie it on and
stand.
Went like this for a couple of days and it
didn't get better, so back to the spine
doc.
Now he comes into the exam room, looks at
me and my friend the nurse and just burst
out laughing. If I hadn't been in so much
pain I might have slugged him. He thinks
it's funny that I haven't learned yet to
not overdo and now look at me. So
examines and goes, "well when you do it,
you really do it, and you do it all the
way, no half ass job from you." So the
bad news is, I didn't just overdo and
strain the muscle in the butt that
attaches to the muscle going up the back,
I tore the damn muscle. I have a 50/50
shot at healing it with PT, if it doesn't
heal, it's he OR with an endoscope to
stitch it and then I will have some
restrictions.
All that sitting and driving in one
position all day into the evening was more
than my body was used to, so when I went
to bed, Ifroze the muscle that was not
well used all day and the slightest
movement in bed tore it.
Got to get used to doing these things
again, "get another car already", the doc
says.
PT is slowly working we think but not sure
yet and won't be for another 2 weeks.
Seems like I can't win, but am still glad
I had the surgery and would do it all over
again.
Fran
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Little One Posted: 09-09-07 12:05pm
How tall are you little one?
And before I comment on your multiple
posts, I have to go back and read all of
them again.
I'm sure you have heard of comedy within
tragedy. All that you went through is the
tragedy. but how you have handled it and
expressed it to all of us is the comedy.
Bless you for all of your smiles among the
tears with the sharing of the your agony
and the ecstacy of living without the old
pain. We should
give you an award for your bravery and
persistence.
So we take it all one day at a time.
Will respond more after I re-read all your
posts.
Marie B.
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Spondy/slippage Posted: 09-09-07 12:31pm
Carol, this is what I understand so far
about the subject. When the Ortho MD
claimed I had spondy and would need
fusion, I said "how can that be when the
MRI Report specifically states, "No
Spondylolithisis seen." The Ortho,
replied "You can't see slippage on an MRI.
You need an X-ray to determine spondy."
With his using those words, I am assumming
slippage and spondy mean the same problem.
I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT EVERYONE HAS SOME
SLIPPAGE. But that would seem logical for
that area; L4-L5,S1 That is the most
bendable area of the spine....forward and
backward and sideways. I'm always trying
to exercise and widdle my waist back to
its 22" size that it was when I was
married; about 43 years ago...haha...talk
about challenges and loosing battles.
Another thing about that X-Ray. It was
taken in the Ortho's office. When I
finally got his written report, he said
nothing about the DEGREE OF SLIPPAGE. I
am wondering if I would have gotten a
better report if it had been ordered by my
primary physician and I had gone to the
hospital and gotten a radiologist report.
I am going to talk to my MD about that.
I had an appointment with my pain
management Dr. 4 days after seeing the
Ortho.. I was a bit steamed about "no
spondy" on the MRI and the spondy on
X-ray. In my mind it was "no wonder the
injections aren't doing anything". My PM
stated "the MRI only views soft tissue and
X-Ray shows the hard tissue of bone/the
vertebrae". He didn't perceive my
slippage as being excessive but to confirm
his thinking, he gave me the names of two
other surgeons who were at the hospital's
spine clinic. That is now in the works.
Probably another month before I get in the
door.
He also did not believe my pain was from
any slippage. He keeps pointing to the
facets as the problem. I received Lumbar
injections, and nothing was ever said
about doing facet injections. I don't
know if they are the same thing. That's
another question to put on my ever growing
list. I do wish my brain would think
faster when I am in the physicians'
presence.
Marie B.
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No Surgery Rich Posted: 09-09-07 12:42pm
Rich, O.K. I know how old you are
because you revealed that on an old post
on another forum. I know all your
secrets.
I'm 3 years younger.
I have a friend who will be having fusion
surgery Sept. 14. I tried to get him to
rethink his position. He had back surgery
in the past., twice, I believe.
He is 6 years older then you. Rich.
When I was talking to my friend, he said,"
You know girl, I'm ? (6 years older then
Rich) and when you get to be my age, you
know there is not much more in life that I
would rather do then "play golf." If
fusion surgerygets me on that golf course
again and I can swing the club, that's all
I ask.
Now how can you argue with a man like
that?
I know your favorite hobby is gardening.
If you can do what you still love to do,
and do it without excessive pain, then I
can't argue with the doctor's decision
that you can do without surgery. If you
agree with him then I say, "Amen." So
continue your life and "Go with God."
'till He changes your direction.
Marie B.
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Cervical Problems Posted: 09-09-07 13:03pm
MJ 57. You asked if I had cervical
problems. Hmmm Not like yours, I
think.
But I have been to a chiro in the past for
subluxation of the cervical area.
I had had surgery on my left shoulder due
to a bone spur and torn rotator cuff which
resulted in open surgery instead of
Arthroscopic surgery. In 12 week after PT
my arm was as good as new. A year later I
started having pain in what I thought was
a similar place in the right shoulder.
Went to my favorite Ortho, who does not
do spines, and he said he believed my
problem was a neck shoulder problem.
After 8 weeks of chiro, and at the same
time going to a neuromuscular therapist,
it was decided that my pain was from
"pressure points" in the muscles that was
causing my pain. No one suggested
injections although they do treat pressure
points thorugh injection. I just would
find the edge of a piece of furniture and
push like heck on various areas that were
found in the curve between the neck and
the shoulder. It would hurt like heck,
but constant pressure would reduce the
pain. In the meantime, the massage and
the manipulation of the cervical vertebrae
caused a cessation of the pain. Now when
I feel the neck, shoulder and the inner
aspect of the tissues between the spine
and the scapular bone begin to cause
problems, I go through my pressure points
and go to my therapist who helps keep the
muscles around my cervical area loose and
warm. I also use ice on the neck during
problem times.
I've also become good at rubbing front and
back muscles of the neck with the teadhing
help of my therapist.
I have never had to have an MRI of that
area. X-Rays show no out of place
vertebraes, I just believe it is the pull
and tug of the muscles on the vertebrae as
I age that causes me the problem. I am
fortunate in that location so far. But
who knows what the future holds.
Mare B.
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Re: Minor Complications And Set Backs Since Surgery Posted: 09-09-07 13:23pm
littleonefb
wrote:
At 3 week post op visit, I
was still doing great and felt like a
whole new person. given pt prescription
and started PT.
Didn't realize how weak the muscles where
that I hadn't been using till then and
find out that I hadn't been using them for
quite a few years.
A couple of weeks into PT, the first
complication arouse. I suddenly started
having floaters in my right eye. I was
aware that this could happen because of
the position you are put in during spinal
surgery puts a terrible strain on the
retinas and combined with my age, I was 56
there was a 50% chance that it would
happen. That means 100% for me.
So off to the eye doc to be checked for
tears or detachment and have been
monitored frequently since. It also put
restrictions on some of the exercises I
could do then and can do know for my back.
That's resulted in not regaining strength
in some of the muscle in my butt and it
has become permenently weakend and will
always give me a bit of discomfort to low
level pain.
Then in mid to end August, I started
noticing pain in both ankles, right worse
than left and tingling in my feet again,
right worse than left. Called the doc and
he wanted me to see the foot and ankle
ortho in the office and he would see me
also.
This was not directly a spine problem but
caused by correcting the spinal stenosis
and standing up correctly again and now
standing on my feet properly. They had
gotten used to the way I stood, which no
one noticed as not being completly
straight and now I was putting lots of
strain on the muscles, ligaments and
nerves in my feet and ankles. DX: tarsal
tunnel syndrome, very common after spinal
surgery. Treatment was custom orthotics
and PT for my feet. Great, had just
finished my PT for my back and I'm back
there with new problems. That's after 2
years there for my arms. Oh, and need
good shoes, either walking or cross
trainers only and they prefer walking
ones, the good ones from New Balance.
So have the orthotics, have the shoes, did
the PT and if I'm on my feet for hours on
end they can be a problem and I do
exercises for them too.
So all is going fine and I'm back to a
life, a little slower than it used to be,
but feeling great and so happy to have had
the surgery.
then I started feeling some discomfort in
my right hip. something new and never had
that before. afraid there is something
wrong with the spine again and call the
doc. This was in May of 2007.
Go into the doc and have xrays to find out
I know have bursitis in my right hip.
Gives me a cortisone shot into my right
hip, works great and I loose bladder
control from the cortisone for 25 hours.
And you guessed it, back to PT for the
hip. beginning to think I should just
move my bed into the place.
Get that going and now I'm doing exercises
for my arms, hands and wrist, my back, my
feet and now my hip every day. 4 hours in
total of them and I spread them out over
the day.
I thought i was pretty good with the don't
overdo bit, but and I mean but.
I really blew it this time.
Since before my spine went, we had to get
rid of my car. Hey 20 years with a toyota
camry and it all went at once. So when I
want the car, I have to drive my hubby to
work and pick him up. We where getting
another car for me but that's on hold
now.
4 weeks ago, I took him to work and came
home. Went out to a doctors appt. and
after there, did a bunch of errands. In
and out of the car and driving for a
couple of hours. Came home walked around
my gardens, came in and by daughter came
by to visit and we where going out for
dinner for dad's birthday. Watered the
gardens, we drove back to get hubby, went
to dinner, came home, daughter went home,
checked e-mail heard the news, took a
shower and went to bed.
About 3 hours later, I must have moved in
my sleep and woke up with a scream of pain
in my butt, OMG did it hurt. Couldn't
move, couldn't sit, thought holy crap,
what did I do. Got out of bed, came down,
put my rice sock on it and it felt better,
but couldn't sit had to tie it on and
stand.
Went like this for a couple of days and it
didn't get better, so back to the spine
doc.
Now he comes into the exam room, looks at
me and my friend the nurse and just burst
out laughing. If I hadn't been in so much
pain I might have slugged him. He thinks
it's funny that I haven't learned yet to
not overdo and now look at me. So
examines and goes, "well when you do it,
you really do it, and you do it all the
way, no half ass job from you." So the
bad news is, I didn't just overdo and
strain the muscle in the butt that
attaches to the muscle going up the back,
I tore the bless muscle. I have a 50/50
shot at healing it with PT, if it doesn't
heal, it's he OR with an endoscope to
stitch it and then I will have some
restrictions.
All that sitting and driving in one
position all day into the evening was more
than my body was used to, so when I went
to bed, Ifroze the muscle that was not
well used all day and the slightest
movement in bed tore it.
Got to get used to doing these things
again, "get another car already", the doc
says.
PT is slowly working we think but not sure
yet and won't be for another 2 weeks.
Seems like I can't win, but am still glad
I had the surgery and would do it all over
again.
Fran
Fran,
Thanks for the funny rundown of your
trouble. Of course, the things are not
funny to you, but you still have the humor
to relate them to us. I'm so sorry
everything seemed to happen at once after
your operation *when it rains, it
definitely pours*, and I had no idea about
the eye problems caused by the position in
surgery.
It sounds like some of your problems were
actually caused because your back improved
(ankles). Great to hear you're back to
life and slowly adapting to the changes
post op. I gotta believe your back is
going to be fine after a period of
adjustment.
Just reading all about your many maladies
made me feel less sorry for myself. Haha!
Sorry about your butt muscle. I pulled one
playing football many moons ago and it was
painful. I can't imagine the pain when you
tear it.
Anyway, just wanted to say good luck and I
enjoyed reading your interesting post.
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Fran In-out Surgery Posted: 09-09-07 17:13pm
Fran, if I understood you correctly, you
had stenosis, right?
To correct this problem, your doctor
performed a Laminotomy on each of the L4
L5 S1 in addition to the shaving of the
lateral recesses of the vertebrae.
Because of the presence of the stenosis,
did the doctor say anything about your
having the least bit of slippage in those
particular vertebrae?
Did he say there was a possibility of
slippage in the future?
And I don't know if it is right or wrong,
but you mention Boston as the place
where you had surgery done.
I have family just outside of Boston.
Cousins who are nurses too. I would love
to know the name of the facility and
doctor. He sounded very thorough in
working with you. True, some of his
expectations of you left you more time to
be in pain but nobody is perfect.
I would love to know more about this
In/Out surgery. That's what it is
called????In/Out???
I don't know if on this Forum if you are
allowed to name the place and doctor, but
we all have been throwing the names of
Bonati, and LSI, and of course there was
Dr. Tolli down south. What's one more
place and doctor?
Would you share those names with us?
Marie B
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Help Posted: 09-09-07 17:52pm
Friends, help. It is obvious that I am
not a good internet searcher.
I know I have read somewhere about the
procedure that Fran had.
Spinal surgery with the entry site on the
side. And it is minimal invasive surgery.
If anyone stumbles on it please provide
the website.
Fran, I can't help wondering if there is
another medical term for that type of
surgery other then "In/Out'? If there is
anything on your insurance papers, or
somewhere in your records would you please
identify this type of surgery.
Marie B
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Re: Fran In-out Surgery Posted: 09-09-07 20:29pm
Marie B.
wrote:
Fran, if I understood you
correctly, you had stenosis, right?
To correct this problem, your doctor
performed a Laminotomy on each of the L4
L5 S1 in addition to the shaving of the
lateral recesses of the vertebrae.
Because of the presence of the stenosis,
did the doctor say anything about your
having the least bit of slippage in those
particular vertebrae?
Did he say there was a possibility of
slippage in the future?
And I don't know if it is right or wrong,
but you mention Boston as the place
where you had surgery done.
I have family just outside of Boston.
Cousins who are nurses too. I would love
to know the name of the facility and
doctor. He sounded very thorough in
working with you. True, some of his
expectations of you left you more time to
be in pain but nobody is perfect.
I would love to know more about this
In/Out surgery. That's what it is
called????In/Out???
I don't know if on this Forum if you are
allowed to name the place and doctor, but
we all have been throwing the names of
Bonati, and LSI, and of course there was
Dr. Tolli down south. What's one more
place and doctor?
Would you share those names with us?
Marie B
Hi Marie,
I don't have any ins. papers as BC/BS
sends you nothing unless it is
specifically requested or there is money
owed that is more than the co-pay.
My discharge paperwork reads the following
under reason for Hospitalization and
surgery.
"right outside and left inside out L4-L5,
L5-S1 decompression for spinal stenosis of
the lateral recess."
I only know it as that and have not done a
search on line for the info. I did not
have a laminotomy, but only a partial, a
small piece removed to get to the lateral
recess area on the right side of the
vertebrae. That is where all the pain I
had and nerve compression, on my right
side.
My doctor told me that based on the
success of this procedure, that I have
full stability in my spine, no
restrictions on any kind of motion of
movement and my body will be my guide as
to what I can and can't do. I had no
slippage of the vertebrae and he he told
me that there would be none because of
this surgery. Everything was too stable
and sturdy.
He couldn't make any guarentees about the
future or developing other problems later
on down the road. To quote him. "this
vertebrae isn't going to cause you any
further problems after this surgery" and
said the same thing on my follow up last
visit.
Some restrictions that I do have now are
just based on additional problems that
have developed as a consequence of
correcting the spinal problems to begin
with and the dificulties I have with the
tendon's in both of my arms, along with
the bursitis in the hip and the eye
problem.
My arms are no longer capable of lifting
anything more than 15 pounds when using
them together. I have no upper strength
in my right arm to do so. An attempt
could and probably would tear the flexor
pronator tendon in my right arm and very
possibly the left one, because I suffer
from a permenent problem of microscopic
tears in those tendons in both arms.
I also can't lift more than that weight
because of the floaters and concern that
the retinas will tear or detach.
I'm not sure if it is classified as
minimally invasive surgery or not. It was
an open spine surgery. The doc did not
use endoscopic tools and muscle was cut.
the incision is very small, only 1 inch,
but that is partly because I used a sports
medicine orthopedic surgeon. They use as
small an incision as possible to start
with and enlarge it only if needed.
My Surgery was not done in Boston, I went
to Boston for other opinions. My doc is
in a suburb north of Boston, but does have
affiliations with some of the Biggest
hospitals in Boston.
I personally don't feel right advertising
my doc's name and offices on a public
forum. I just don't think it is the
proper thing to do with out asking first,
but will privately e-mail you the info and
will be glad to do so for anyone else who
would like the info.
Fran
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Got to Have Some Humor to Survive Spine Stuff Posted: 09-09-07 21:58pm
Lonestar, thanks.
I've got to have some humor to survive
this stuff or I would go off the deep end
for sure.
It's nice to be going to the same PT/OT
place for all these years. The PTS/OT are
there and it's just a standing joke now.
I walk in and the chorus is "What does it
take to get through to you, don't
overdo?"
My OT for my arms, just grins at them all
and says, "must be I'm better at it than
all of you, cause she never overdoes her
arms, hands, fingers and wrists."
She conveniently forgets to mention to all
the PTs there that the minute I start to
overdo with the arms, the tingle sensation
starts and I know I have to stop what I'm
doing and stretch and rest them.
Not so lucky with the spinal stuff though,
don't feel anything until it's too late.
ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT MY
DOC TOLD ME THAT THE MOST COMMON REASON
FOR FAILED SPINAL SURGERY FOR
DECOMPRESSION IS A FAILURE TO DECOMPRESS
THE LATERAL ARTICULATE AND THE LATERAL
RECESS.
THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN AND PUBLISHED ABOUT
SINCE 1981, YET IT IS STILL IGNORED BY
DOCTORS ALL THE TIME.
Now that's scary stuff. After my doc told
me this I did some searching on line about
it and this link is the first thing that
popped up with a google search. worth a
read for sure.
Good Morning to you all,
Thank you all so much. People in general
take much for granted only because we are
human. important factor is that we learn
through everything in this life and so
many people are so supportive in many
ways. Sometimes I think people don't even
realize that a simple word or one sentence
how much help it brings to another person.
I can sympathize,
have empathy as well with all of you in
this forum. I was there in 1988 with a
herniated disk, pressing against the
siatic nerve putting me into muscle spasms
24 hrs. a day for 7 solid weeks. I was
unable to sit, walk or stand due to the
pressure was so great in the calf of my
left leg. When I tried to stand, I went to
the floor. My husband, 2 sons and
daughter, Carrianne took care of me. I
could have had surgery the next morning,
but the Dr. said if I could tolerate the
pain and have the patience to lay it out
I'd head. I chose to lay it out. It took 7
weeks to lay it out, the 8th week I got up
and walked with a walker, advanced to a
cane, tossed the cane and dragged my leg.
Had I not been able to walk I'd have had
to go into surgery the 9th week. Back then
there was no laser surgery that we knew of
anyways. We had no health insurance at
that time either. So much was taken into
account. Even this day and age many of you
and Carrianne too would say don't rush
into surgery, take it one day at a time.
Then when it gets to be too much take
action.
Carrianne did well over the weekend. She
will be seeing Dr. Bonati today. Her
headache is gone but she does have some
little pains here and there that are only
for a second. But she also has a knot in
the base of her neck. So it's a tight
muscle and is that creating the head to
hurt for a second in different places.
We'll find out today and she's hoping they
will take another MRI to make sure. We
watched 2 movies over the weekend and it
was such a blessing to see a smile and my
daughter laughing again. Little did we
know back in 1988 when a little 10 year
old girl was talking care of her mom
bedridden that her mom would be taking
care of her as a young woman. She's a
trooper! She says mine was worse than
hers. No, I don't think so, it just
pressed differently on nerves, etc. You
all take care, God Bless you all and have
a great day. Kathy
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RichT
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Where to Begin Posted: 09-10-07 17:25pm
Hello Everyone,
Kathy, - I hope Carrianne's visit with Dr.
Bonati went well today. So wonderful to
read that her smile and laughter are
returning. Thanks so much for the update.
I know we will be looking forward to your
continuing updates on your daughter.
Thanks Kathy for sharing about what you
have gone through with your spinal
difficulties. All such sharing helps me
to better sort things out for myself.
Fran - WOW what a book you have written.
I tried to read as much as I could with
this damn time restriction at the library.
After reading about your doc, makes me
wish I had a spinal doc like him. NEVER
has any doc showed me what a "normal"
spine should look like. That would really
help to better understand things.
MJ - Wish you the best. Would like to
write more, but I'm down to less than a
minute.
RichT
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Marie B.
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Ohio
Information Posted: 09-10-07 18:39pm
Thanks Fran. That will be a big help.
I'll contact my relatives in Mass. for
more detailed information. I appreciated
your help.
MarieB
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Marie B.
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Ohio
Comparing Costs Posted: 09-10-07 18:48pm
The following is from the AARP Bulletin.
Prices at Bangkok's Bumrungrad Hospital
vs. average costs at private hospitals in
the United States.
Prostate surgery
$5,000-$7000 versus
$35,000-$40,000
Comprehensive Checkup" $400 versus
$2000
SPINAL SURGERY
$6000-$8000 versus
$50,000 - $70,000
Open-heart bypass surgery
$10,000 versus
$60,000-$80,000
There's more and I could go on, but who
wants to have surgery at Bankok?
Marie
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KAK
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 4 Location: , NY
Another Day to See Posted: 09-11-07 09:09am
Good Morning once more to you all.
Carrianne and her husband walked inside
Target last night. Dr. Bonati said he's
not going to make her wait, keep
wondering if it's this and that, wants her
to be able to distinguish what is what for
sure with no doubt. If anything is going
to happen it's going to happen with her
daily activity within 2 days so get up and
go about your day carefully without
worrying. She has 2 days to feel 100%
better. If she is 100% Wednesday she'll
be on her way back to Tampa. If not, he's
going in, finding the leak and stitching
it up so she can return to a normal life.
It's the second guessing head pains in
different places lasting a second at a
time, back pain but is it stiffness?? If
anything comes about today she is to call
Bonati Institute immediately and they will
take her in. Please keep Carrianne in
your prayers today and tomorrow. Thank you
so much! Take care, God Bless, and you all
have a wonderful day. Kathy
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Marie B.
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Ohio
Prayer Posted: 09-11-07 09:29am
In the most Holy Will of God, I will pray
for Carrianne.
MarieB
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Carrianne
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 107 Location: Tampa, FL
Thank You! Posted: 09-11-07 10:32am
Hi everyone! Wow, I sure have a lot of
reading to catch up on when I'm back to
100%. My mom has done a great job at
keeping you all updated. Thanks Mom! Love
you lots!
The headache from the dura leak is gone. I
do still get little pains here and there,
but don't think it's related. I have more
pain my back, but suspect it's from laying
down for the majority of the last 2 weeks
(and sleeping in a bed that isn't mine).
I finally got outside yesterday which was
wonderful! God sure lets you know how
beautiful the outside is, especially when
you haven't seen it in a while. I saw a
red cardinal, tons of blue jays, and a
rainbow! Good signs!!
Dr. Bonati isn't comfortable with my
having to have 3 blood patches and seems
to be leaning in the direction of going
back in to find and seal the leak once and
for all. That scares me a lot, but if
that's what it will to take to be done
with this, then I'll comply. I'm just
scared of reliving the past 2 weeks.
THANK YOU ALL for all of your prayers and
well wishes. I can't tell you enough how
much I truly appreciate your concern. The
last couple of weeks have been tough, but
it's people like you who make it sooo much
easier to walk THROUGH things like this.
You are all in my prayers.
I will start reading the last 4 pages of
this thread and responding individually as
soon as I can. It's moving along so
quickly!
God bless you all!!!!
Carrianne
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RichT
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God And Dr. Bonati Are With You Posted: 09-11-07 12:07pm
Hello Carrianne,
It was so wonderful to see your post.
That in itself is encouraging. Two
difficult weeks I'm sure, however, your
very positive attitude and God's
comforting hand will see you through.
Anyone that says the doctors at the laser
institutes don't really care about their
patients, has not seen/experienced the
dedicated care you have and will continue
to have at Bonati Institute.
The good Lord is having some busy days
with our continued prayers for you.
Take care. My thoughts and prayers are
and will continue to be with you.
RichT
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RichT
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Surgery Posted: 09-11-07 12:10pm
Hello MJ,
My apology for a short memory, however, if
I recall correctly you have or will
shortly be having surgery. Would you be
so kind as to refresh my memory. Thanks!!
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
RichT
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Marie B.
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Ohio
When Posted: 09-11-07 12:20pm
Rich T When are you going to get that
computer up and running again?
Don't you know that you are the
cheerleader for everyone in the laser
forum; always having a good word, thought
or cheer for each person
