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Remember All Veterans Posted: 11-10-07 15:09pm
I know this is off the topic, but I
thought since we all have become friends,
you might forgive me. This will probably
be a long post. I hope you read every
word.
Monday is Veteran's Day, where we honor
the men and women who have served our
country. I found out when I was younger
that the price of freedom is a high one.
All of us should thank every veteran who
has put his/her life in jeopardy so that
we have the freedom to say what we want
and do want we want.
There are some people that take freedom
for granted and those are the ones for
which I am writing. Freedom to life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness is
not just a bunch of words. They are words
which you have to fight for. They are
words you have to sacrifice for. Many
before you have made that sacrifice. Many
have made the ultimate sacrifice.
No one wants to leave their girlfriend,
wife, children, mother, father, brother,
sister or grandparents to go to other
parts of the world and fight enemies to
our way of life. America is a great
country, where most people have a
comfortable lifestyle, but there seems to
be apathy towards veterans. They don't get
enough pay, enough support from government
and not enough help when they come home.
And some come home with medical problems
and even disabilities. As in all wars,
young men (some 18 or 19) make up the
majority of wounded and dead and they made
sacrifices unimagined by the typical
American.
Many do not agree with the
administration's policies and we are mired
in another pointless war. I am one who
does not agree. But please do not confuse
your feelings for the administrators of
war with your feelings for the soldiers
fighting that war. I was personally
involved in another unpopular war some 40
years ago and found out the depth of
hatred in people. I came back to America
and was spit upon by anti-war
demonstrators. That was a life-changing
experience and and a rude awakening.
As a result, I was reluctant to tell
anyone that I had served in the military.
But, over the years, time passed and I
came to realize that my service was
honorable and I did nothing wrong. Now, I
am proud to have served and I have had a
great life. But, I am an exception to the
usual young person who tries to return to
civilian life after serving in wartime.
When people tell you that "war is hell,"
don't believe it. War is worse than that.
War changes everyone in it because it
scares the crap out of you, every minute
of every day. Young men, full of
testosterone, go into war thinking nothing
can hurt them and they can never die.
Suddenly, they are faced with the stark
reality that they can be hurt and they
definitely can die. It's a severe
adjustment to any mortality contemplation.
Many come home more mature but they are
never the same inside and some poor souls
never recover from the shock.
When I think of Veteran's Day, I think of
my dad. He's gone now, but he was also a
veteran (WWII fighter pilot). I think of
him because he sacrificed a period of time
in his life that he was never able to get
back.
He always wanted me to go further in life
than he did. I have spent most of my life
trying to please him.
So, for this Veteran's Day, please think
of all the good things in your life and
show your patriotism. It is not a dirty
word and it will never become passe to be
patriotic. It just means you love your
country and that you support all the men
and women who have defended YOUR country
since the Revolutionary War. Fly an
American Flag or thank a veteran (maybe
one of your relatives) who served for you.
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Re: Thank Your Daughter Posted: 11-10-07 17:14pm
RichT
wrote:
Hello Fran,
So very nice of your daughter to provide
information on cortisone and
How do I say this properly - The
derivatives do have the same basic
structure of cortisone, however, they do
have significant differences also. As one
small but significant difference the
chemical in Kenalog has a hydrogen atom
which was replaced with a floride atom.
There are other differences too. Those
differences provide a compound which has a
much longer life than the parent cortisone
produced in our bodies and I'm sure
provides a somewhat different
function/reaction. Being a stickler for
compound details it bothers me when
doctors use the term "cortisone injection"
when that is not true. To me doctors
should explain to the patient exactly what
he is going to inject and its purpose.
DON'T MISLEAD people. WE need to know
EXACTLY what medication the doctor is
giving to us. How else can we properly
check it out on the internet.
As an example, one very old insecticide
was DDT. And DDD was an "impurity" and
degradation product. This then followed a
degradation to DDE. All somewhat similar
in structure, but definitely different
compounds. A horse is not a mule, is not
a donkey.
I congratuate your daughter in pursuing an
MA in both chemistry and biology and
education. Truly amazing. I wish her the
very best. Back in my working days I was
a research chemist though not in the
pharmaceutical area.
Take care.
RichT
Moderator - Sorry for going off topic,
however, I do believe it is an important
issue.
I Rich,
My daughter was glad to provide the info.
She's a hard worker, but the masters
degrees that she has are a requirement to
maintain her teaching certification in Ma.
Once a new teacher graduates and passes
the state teaching certification exam,
which is in the subject area that they
teach for both middle and high school,
they must obtain a master's degree in the
subject area within 5 years or they loose
their teaching certification and have to
start all over again. The initial
certification is only a temporary
certification.
Sad thing is, that the education from a
master's degree is not something that can
really be brought into the classroom in a
middle school or HS and used for educating
the students. Too complicated and in
depth. As my daughter says "it's only an
incentive to leave teaching and go to work
in the private sector to make more money,
and once you have a masters in the subject
area, you have to be careful not to get
any more or you will have trouble getting
a teaching job, because they are forced to
pay you for more masters degrees and they
can get other teachers with less
education." She's done her requirements
to keep her liscense, is never planing to
leave teaching either.
Anyway, I don't think you went off topic
with your questions or comments.
Doctors should tell their paitents what
they are giving them for treatment in meds
etc. and be accurate with what they say.
On the other hand, we need to be careful
when we research info on line as well.
There is so much inaccurate info on line
and many times it's hard to sort through
all the info and be sure that what we find
is correct and accurate.
As for the changes in the synthetic
cortisone vs natural made. The synthetic
works very much the same as the natural
that the body makes.
Differences are the long acting affect and
the ability to inject it into a localized
area, ie in the spinal area, joint or
mucles or it can be taken systemically.
The synthetic is a more potent
anti-inflammatory as well.
Side affects are the same as well, just
increased because of the longer acting
affects of the synthetic.
Natural or synthetic, they are all in the
same family and therefore the
classification of "cortisone" so I'm not
sure if it is really incorrect to say that
it really isn't a cortisone or not.
I think it's similar to the penicillin
family thing. Penicillin is a very
specific antibiotic. Change a bit of the
formula and you create a new antibiotic
such as amoxycillin. change a bit again
and you have augmentum.
Yet they are all classified as "cillinaise
drugs". (there are quite a few of them in
this cillinaiase category besides the one
I mentioned).
Now, the old penicillin may not work on a
particular infection, but a different one
in the family will, because of the slight
change in the original compound.
On the other hand, if you are allergic to
one of the cillinase drugs, you are
allergic to all of them.
Many doctors just refer to them as the
cilinase drugs, and only use the specific
name when writing a prescription, so that
the patient gets the "right family member"
to treat the infection.
Interesting though, when my doc said he
was going to start me on prednisone last
week for more problems with my back.
(I'll post about that one another time),
he said the following.
"I'm going to start you on cortisone to
get this mass inflammation down and we can
figure out what's going on.
Specifically, prednisone, actually are you
familiar with the methyl-prednisonole
dreasing packet dose?'
I told him I was, and he said good. "then
you know how the dose packet works,
starting out with the first day and
decreasing through day 6."
He was general, then more specific and
then most specific with the cortisone that
he was going to put me on.
More docs should be like this.
Oh, yes during my daughter's 4 years
undergrad at Brandeis University, she
worked in 2 research labs as part of her
degree as well as part of her work study.
She was involved in the research and
development of the product "smart balance"
the replacement for margarine that helps
to lower blood cholesterol and tastes
wondeful.
It really works too, kept mine very low
and helped to decrease my hubbies levels
enough to decrease his cholesterol med to
a lower dose
and she worked in the lab with the famous
and beloved Parrot, Alex as well, who died
suddenly in Sept.
See link below.
Re: Remember All Veterans Posted: 11-10-07 18:15pm
lonestarguy
wrote:
I know this is off the
topic, but I thought since we all have
become friends, you might forgive me. This
will probably be a long post. I hope you
read every word.
Monday is Veteran's Day, where we honor
the men and women who have served our
country. I found out when I was younger
that the price of freedom is a high one.
All of us should thank every veteran who
has put his/her life in jeopardy so that
we have the freedom to say what we want
and do want we want.
There are some people that take freedom
for granted and those are the ones for
which I am writing. Freedom to life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness is
not just a bunch of words. They are words
which you have to fight for. They are
words you have to sacrifice for. Many
before you have made that sacrifice. Many
have made the ultimate sacrifice.
No one wants to leave their girlfriend,
wife, children, mother, father, brother,
sister or grandparents to go to other
parts of the world and fight enemies to
our way of life. America is a great
country, where most people have a
comfortable lifestyle, but there seems to
be apathy towards veterans. They don't get
enough pay, enough support from government
and not enough help when they come home.
And some come home with medical problems
and even disabilities. As in all wars,
young men (some 18 or 19) make up the
majority of wounded and dead and they made
sacrifices unimagined by the typical
American.
Many do not agree with the
administration's policies and we are mired
in another pointless war. I am one who
does not agree. But please do not confuse
your feelings for the administrators of
war with your feelings for the soldiers
fighting that war. I was personally
involved in another unpopular war some 40
years ago and found out the depth of
hatred in people. I came back to America
and was spit upon by anti-war
demonstrators. That was a life-changing
experience and and a rude awakening.
As a result, I was reluctant to tell
anyone that I had served in the military.
But, over the years, time passed and I
came to realize that my service was
honorable and I did nothing wrong. Now, I
am proud to have served and I have had a
great life. But, I am an exception to the
usual young person who tries to return to
civilian life after serving in wartime.
When people tell you that "war is hell,"
don't believe it. War is worse than that.
War changes everyone in it because it
scares the crap out of you, every minute
of every day. Young men, full of
testosterone, go into war thinking nothing
can hurt them and they can never die.
Suddenly, they are faced with the stark
reality that they can be hurt and they
definitely can die. It's a severe
adjustment to any mortality contemplation.
Many come home more mature but they are
never the same inside and some poor souls
never recover from the shock.
When I think of Veteran's Day, I think of
my dad. He's gone now, but he was also a
veteran (WWII fighter pilot). I think of
him because he sacrificed a period of time
in his life that he was never able to get
back.
He always wanted me to go further in life
than he did. I have spent most of my life
trying to please him.
So, for this Veteran's Day, please think
of all the good things in your life and
show your patriotism. It is not a dirty
word and it will never become passe to be
patriotic. It just means you love your
country and that you support all the men
and women who have defended YOUR country
since the Revolutionary War. Fly an
American Flag or thank a veteran (maybe
one of your relatives) who served for
you.
Lonestar,
What a beautiful post, and IMHO, you
needn't apologize for going off topic.
We are all friends here, and a heartfelt
post to your friends is not going off
topic.
No veteran in this country should ever
feel ashamed for serving their country,
regardless of the war or wars they have
served in.
And, yes, there is a huge difference in
supporting a war and supporting our
troops. One can be fully against a war IE
Iraq, Vietnam and supporting our troops.
I come from a Military family. My
grandfather was a WW1 army vet, who served
on war boards in Washington before and
during WW2. He was proud of all of his
service and we where of him. All the
medals he recieved in WW1 where an honor
to him, but he never forgot those that
where left behind and those that suffered
the aftermath of war.
My father served in Korea as did 2 uncles.
and they where proud of their service as
well.
Kids where called "Army Brats", but those
of us that had grandparents that served in
the army had a very distinct name in MA
"Army Grand Brats". We where so proud of
that name.
I was always brought up to remember "never
forget our vets and never forget our
troops, no matter what you believe about
what they are fighting for. They are
doing the job they where ordered to do and
had no choice. Never blame our troops for
the conflicts and wars that they are
involved in, but it is YOUR RIGHT AND
RESPONSIBILITY TO OPPOSE THE ACTION THAT
HAS BEEN TAKEN BY THE GOVERNMENT IN CHARGE
THAT HAS SENT THEM TO WAR OR CONFLICT, IF
YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS WRONG. JUST NEVER
BLAME THE TROOPS."
I've never forgotten those words,
lonestar.
I was one of those out in the streets
against Vietnam, but never did I mix up my
belief against the war with those that
served, where serving and coming home.
It wasn't in me to be able to turn against
those that where coming home, least of all
when some of them where my friends that
had been drafted to go.
My family was part of an MA organization
that made sure that those bodies coming
home to MA had coffins to be placed in and
American flags on their caskets before
their families saw the body bags.
They where simple plain pine coffins, but
it was a coffin to bring the body to the
desired funeral homes. Once there, the
coffin was returned to the organization to
be used again and again and again.
I couldn't imagine a family receiving
their loved one in a military body bag.
In this recent war in Iraq and
Afghanistan, it's a different view for me.
Instead of being the teenager and early
20's kid, I'm the mother and watching the
kids that grew up with my children, going
off to war.
Now I live the fear that these kids will
be hurt or killed and Oh my is that a
different fear to live with.
I'm just as much against this mess as I
was against the Vietnam War, and prior to
the spiney stuff, I was out in the street
against this one too.
That angered my daughter to no end. She
couldn't understand how I could do that
while her best friends brother was over
their in the Marines, and her brother's
best friend, "her other big brother" was
over there too.
I did my best to try and explain to her
the difference between supporting our
troops and not supporting the war and got
no where.
I reminded her of the $5,000 worth of xmas
stuff we sent to "her other brother and
his platoon" and it didn't help.
What worked was the following e-mail that
we got from him and his platoon. He calls
his mother Mom, and calls me "Ma"
"Hi, Mom and Ma,
Thanks so much for the huge packages. We
wil have to get off to you some pics of
what you sent us late, but no one in the
world could have come up with these
packages but you Ma. It just goes to show
that we where always right when we called
you "crazy Mrs. B."
Who else would send all this stuff for
Xmas to the middle of the dessert in the
middle east for Xmas.
Anyway, we have the 7 foot xmas foot tree
up already. The green skirt was perfect
for it. and the artificial snow is
sprinkled on it and all over the tree.
the ornaments are perfect and adorable.
We love the ones that represent each of
our hometowns too. The rotating and
musical stand is just perfect. We hooked
up an old battery to it and when we can we
run it so we can have the music.
The lights work too and none of them
arrived broken either. How in the world
did you pull that off?
7,000 feet of garland was perfect. now we
know why you asked such crazy questions
about footage of this and that MA. And
the bags of fresh found pinecones almost
had me in tears. but how long did it take
you to fill all those 33 gallon trash
bags. there where 5 bags. and all of
them where different.
None of us know how to thank you for all
you've done. You've given us a piece of
home that none of us could ever live long
enough to thank you for all of it.
I guess I'm not surprised that you would
do this, but Ma, it is without question,
the craziest thing you've ever come up
with. But what you've given us is really
the best thing you've ever come up with.
It's knowing how much you love us, respect
us and have all of us in your hearts.
Now Rachael, my little sis. My humvee is
named for you and those old cards we used
to collect. It's called 'Rachael Rodent".
Your pictures are on the front dashboard
and I know I'm always safe in it, cause I
can't take too many risks, I have to come
home to my "little rachael rodent".
so for you understand this please. There
is a difference in supporting the troops
and not supporting the war.
Mom and Ma are doing nothing wrong in
being against this war. It has nothing to
do in not supporting us.
This country, the USA, was founded with
the rights of it's citizens to have free
speech, free press not censored in what
they say.
To say that it is unpatriotic to express
ones beliefs that are different than the
goverments policies is wrong.
As a matter of fact, it is far more
patriotic to open one's mouth and disent
rather than sit by and not ask questions.
A country whose people just sit by and do
nothing when they disagree with the
government policies, are afraid to do or
say anything because of what the
consequences might be are not a free
people.
We, in the USA are a free people.
We have just freed the people in another
country from an oppressive regime that
didn't have that right, until now.
The best thing a citizen of the USA can do
now to respect the troops is to exercise
their rights to protest, or support the
government policies or do whatever they
believe, but exercise the rights that we
enjoy in this country.
Your military troops have been fighting to
preserve those rights that you have since
the beginning of this country during the
revolutionary war.
So Mom, and Ma, you go ladies and do what
you believe in. We love you and as long
as you exercise the freedoms that we are
fightig for, you decide which way to go.
It's no disrespect to us, it's the biggest
honor you can give us.
Again thanks from all of us and Ma, you
will never be able to top this gift, if
you live to be a million."
Lonestar, my flags wave high and all the
time. Lights under them at night. On
special days of flag waving, a special
flag goes outside. Not in the best of
conditions, but it is one of the smaller
flags that was at my grandfathers grave
during his funeral.
And here is a special salute to you, my
friend, an honorable vet. All my support
to you as a vet and fellow family spinal
friend.
Fran
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lonestarguy
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Posted: 11-10-07 19:47pm
Wow Fran!
That was a poignant and welcome post and I
appreciate your kind words about veterans
and the sacrifices they have made. I agree
completely with the right to protest
anything you feel is unfair or wrong.
That's why our country is great--because
we are allowed to dissent. You have indeed
lived a life filled with military
influences and you are one of the best
veteran supporters I have come across.
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INNOVATOR54
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Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 29
Surgery At Bonati Posted: 11-14-07 09:59am
I have been following this forum for a few
weeks and have decided to jump in for
moral support. I also wondered how MJ was
doing as I beleive a second surgery was
scheduled for Nov 12th?
I moved to Arkansas about six months ago
to help my son (31 yrs old) through his
back problems. I quit my job to do this.
He has no insurance but I will cover the
costs though I am not rich.
To date he has been told to control his
back problems with pain medications and it
has come to the point where he can no
longer work.
He is in constant pain and says he has no
life though he has two beautiful children
and a great wife. He says he wants his
life back
He has the following back issues:
Bulge at L3/4, L4/5(severe) amd
L5/S1(severe)
DDD at all three locations
Foraminal narrowing at all three locations
Degenerative facet disease at all
locations
He was told he could have a double fusion
but success rate from this surgery from
research is fairly low. I researched the
web and came up with Bonati, LSI and
Microspine.
Through all the research we were told by
all three he was a candidate for surgery.
Bonati ask for MRIs to review, LSI and
Microspine only requested the review of
the MRI as it was written.
Through it all I have decided to go with
Bonati and we are scheduled for Dec 7th
for checkin, Dec 12th first surgery
(Facets) and Dec 19th second surgery
(L5/S1) and possibly a third surgery on
(L4/5).
I am very encouraged by Joebob's and
Carrianne's results at Bonati.
The doctor scheduled for my son is Dr.
Moffat.
I will keep you up to date on how things
go when we are there.
Innovator 54
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MinnesotaDave
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Just a Quick Update! Posted: 11-14-07 11:07am
I'm too busy being bored right now. 2 more
weeks of boredom and I will be able to
start PT. It is so hard not to do
anything. I had to watch my wife rake the
leaves this weekend and I tell you I have
never wanted to rake leaves this bad in my
life. I am so looking foward to doing
everything I used too. I feel great and
still have no pain. My stitches have been
removed and the scar is already smoothing
out. One thing that I did the first 2
weeks is ice my back a ton. I believe this
helped great in reducing any pain I would
have had.
I officially went of all Meds Monday and
boy my brain is excited. It is a strange
feeling for me to be pain free without the
use of meds.
Good luck to all of you facing Surgery or
those of you who recently had surgery. It
can be scary but just trust in God to lead
you and everything will be alright.
David
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Posted: 11-14-07 16:39pm
Hello Innovator,
WELCOME to this thread and the great
people who post here. Glad you have taken
the time to read through some of the
posts.
Sorry to read that your son has bad back
pain. Frankly I always get concerned when
doctors push pain medication. I was on
hydrocodone for a few weeks and that was
long enough. I litterally slept the whole
day away. That to me is not how one wants
to live.
I can understand that your son wants his
life back. Understand well. GREAT that
he has two beautiful children and a great
wife to support him. THAT is SOOOOoooo
important.
AND your support of your son tells me of
the wonderful father you are. To
sacrifice your position and willingness to
financially support his upcoming surgery
is beyond words. BRAVO!!!
My current spine surgeon wants to fuse my
back in two places and do a bunch of other
things. As long as my pain management doc
can keep me going with an epidural
injection I'll stay away from the knife.
A question if I may - Has your son had any
epidural injections containing the
corticosteroid Kenalog? If not, may I
suggest that he give this a try before
having surgery. Sure has helped me.
I commend you for your research. You and
your son have done your homework well. My
first pick of the three laser institutes
is also Bonati. A good choice. Your son
is most fortunate to have Dr. Moffat as
his surgeon. I'm sure you noticed that
Joe also had Dr. Moffat as his surgeon.
Please do keep us updated on how things
progress. We are concerned.
My thoughts and prayers are with not only
your son but also with you and his
family.
Take care.
RichT
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mj57
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Hellooooooooooo Posted: 11-14-07 16:46pm
Good afternoon all.....I'm reporting
everything so far has been wonderful!!!!
Had lumbar facets....L-4-5-S1.....and
....SI(i) joint surgery last night...got
out at 7:05 pm....went in at 3:00 (
SI.....didn't know I had one.. but we all
do)......but found that out after facet
injections in L-4-5-5-S1.....still had
achyness ....hip pain and butt pain.....so
they went in and did the S-I(i) facet
injections. It feels like a ton of weight
has been lifted from my shoulders and
back........I actually feel human
now........my step mom even
said......."you are smiling more" and
''are not so rigid"
Had my therapy today...ice, tens, and
wonderful massage.
My next surgery(3rd and final.....I hope)
for my thoracic is set for
Tuesday......(call Monday) for
time........and then I'm done........(keep
those prayers....Please...they ARE
working!!!!!!)
Innovator....I'm so glad you are seeing
the fine people of this facility....I pray
that your son finds the relief I know he
so desperatly needs and deserves. You
will find Dr. Moffatt to be a most awesome
caring person....he's a searcher for
info......so let him know all of it. I've
spoken to several people here that have
had failed fusion surgery ....one I talked
with briefly before my therapy..and she is
most happy now with Bonati's
procedures....will be looking for the
updates on his progress...
Dave....great to hear you are doing so
great......I wish you all the best.
Has anyone heard from Marie....as to how
her surgery went?
Rich T..........Hope your injections are
doing some good for you.
Fran........I too am an Army Brat.......my
father retired the year I graduated from
high school.......1968......saw quite abit
of the country and two tours of Germany.
Your writing is beautiful.......
Ms Carrianne.......I hope you are
continuing to progress........and can
start therapy soon.......if you are
walking daily.........and
stretching.......I feel that is the
best.......
mj......
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Fantastic - No Meds!!!! Posted: 11-14-07 16:51pm
Hello Dave,
Thanks for the nice update. FANTASTIC
that you are doing so very well. I admire
your willpower to be patient with yourself
and not do what you would like to do.
AHHHHhhhh you have one FANTASTIC wife.
She supports you so well by raking the
leaves, knowing full well that you must
not. And I know her support is far more
than just raking leaves.
Yes Dave, I'm sure you are bored. When
you feel GREAT it is SOOOoo difficult not
to just go and do what you want to do and
are waiting to do. I comment you for your
willpower and your patience. May the next
two weeks go quickly. Do let us know how
your first PT session goes.
AND so very VERY true - Having trust/faith
in God helps so much to help us through
difficult/concerning times.
Have a FANTASTIC Day!!!
RichT
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Fantastic!!!! Posted: 11-14-07 17:09pm
Hello MJ,
No better words to read and "hear" from
you than "everything so far has been
wonderful!!!" Those words put a smile on
my face knowing that your pain is much
less.
Glad to read that your PT went well.
My thoughts and prayers are with you as
always, and especially so on your last
surgery this coming Tuesday.
The injection I had this past Thursday
does seem to be helping. Friday, Saturday
and Sunday were great. About 5 am on
Monday morning and Tuesday night were not
so good, but that may have been my
arthrtiis acting up because of the damp
cool rainy weather. Slept well last
night. Transplanted five astilbe today
(root balls were about 40-50 lbs each. So
I'll see how the back does this evening.
Yes, I too have been wondering if anyone
has heard from Marie. I have not.
Hopefully her surgery went well.
Have a WONDERFUL Day!!
RichT
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Marie Posted: 11-14-07 17:17pm
No word here either from Marie. She
hasn't sent me any personal e-mails
either.
If I remember correctly, she was going to
be in the hospital for 3 days or so.
I wonder if they kept her longer than they
usually would, to get her pain under
contol.
She said that she has trouble with narcs
and they don't do anything for her pain.
she had wanted anit-inflammatories because
that was the only thing that helped her
pain.
those are a no, no, after fusion. they
can prevent the fusion from working and
afte surgery cause bleeding.
Hope we hear from her soon, though.
Fran
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Re: Hellooooooooooo Posted: 11-14-07 17:27pm
mj57
wrote:
Good afternoon all.....I'm
reporting everything so far has been
wonderful!!!!
Had lumbar facets....L-4-5-S1.....and
....SI(i) joint surgery last night...got
out at 7:05 pm....went in at 3:00 (
SI.....didn't know I had one.. but we all
do)......but found that out after facet
injections in L-4-5-5-S1.....still had
achyness ....hip pain and butt pain.....so
they went in and did the S-I(i) facet
injections. It feels like a ton of weight
has been lifted from my shoulders and
back........I actually feel human
now........my step mom even
said......."you are smiling more" and
''are not so rigid"
Had my therapy today...ice, tens, and
wonderful massage.
My next surgery(3rd and final.....I hope)
for my thoracic is set for
Tuesday......(call Monday) for
time........and then I'm done........(keep
those prayers....Please...they ARE
working!!!!!!)
Innovator....I'm so glad you are seeing
the fine people of this facility....I pray
that your son finds the relief I know he
so desperatly needs and deserves. You
will find Dr. Moffatt to be a most awesome
caring person....he's a searcher for
info......so let him know all of it. I've
spoken to several people here that have
had failed fusion surgery ....one I talked
with briefly before my therapy..and she is
most happy now with Bonati's
procedures....will be looking for the
updates on his progress...
Dave....great to hear you are doing so
great......I wish you all the best.
Has anyone heard from Marie....as to how
her surgery went?
Rich T..........Hope your injections are
doing some good for you.
Fran........I too am an Army Brat.......my
father retired the year I graduated from
high school.......1968......saw quite abit
of the country and two tours of Germany.
Your writing is beautiful.......
Ms Carrianne.......I hope you are
continuing to progress........and can
start therapy soon.......if you are
walking daily.........and
stretching.......I feel that is the
best.......
mj......
Hi MJ,
so glad to hear you are doing better and
getting more and more relief. Hope this
last surgery works for you as well.
You're a year older than me, I'm the class
of 1969. Get his, really freaked me out
too when I realized it. My son is the
class of 1996 and little sister was the
class of 2001, "a space odisssey kid".
That's what they where called all through
school.
When her class was planning graduation
ceremonies, the entire class demanded that
they march into the music theme of the
movie "2001 space oddysey". The
superintendent said "NO" and these kids
said "fine, have a great graduation
exercises, none of us will be there."
They didn't show up for he first or second
rehearsal, and he finally relent and the
kids warned him that if the music wasn't
there, they would, as a class, turn and
leave.
They won that battle.
Parents thought it was hysterical that the
Super said no, yet all through their
school years, they where always referred
to as the "space oddyssy kids.
Fran
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12,000+ Views And Counting Posted: 11-14-07 17:27pm
Hello Viewers,
Its GREAT that so many of you are
following along on the spine "activities"
of the posters on this thread.
I would really like to encourage every one
of you to become an active posting member
of this GREAT spiney family.
Have a SUPER Day!!
RichT
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Go Space Odyssey Kids!!!! Posted: 11-14-07 17:37pm
Hello Fran,
Thanks for sharing your most interesting
story about the "spine" of your daughter's
class. BRAVO to them. If they have all
excelled as well as your daughter, then
the "super" should be very proud of them.
Take care.
RichT
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Good Evening Posted: 11-14-07 20:50pm
MJ:
Glad to hear your are doing well. Did you
have your surgery at Bonati and was Dr.
Moffat your surgeon? I am really hoping
my son will come through with
improvements. He needs his spirits lifted
immensely.
RichT:
My son has had many epidural injections.
Not sure of the medicine used but I will
ask him. They did not work for him.
He has been put on Oxicodone. This is a
very dangerous drug.
I don't want to get kicked off the thread
but who ever invented this drug needs to
be put out of business. He is managing it
well but wants off of it very badly. He
feels it affects his thoughts and llife
also.
First thing is to improve the back then
get rid of the Oxicodone.
He wants to go back to college and become
an Elementary school teacher.
He is a very devout christain also.
Me personally,I have only hurt my back
once and was in pain for about a week.
From being around my son I have learned to
respect and admire people like RichT and
others who are living with this every day.
I hope you ALL get some improvement some
day and you will be in my families prayers
daily.
Innovator54
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Thoughts Posted: 11-14-07 21:12pm
Hello Innovator,
Thank you for the info and your kind
words.
Unfortunate that the epidural injections
did not work for your son.
May I ask if Dr. Moffat knows that your
son is taking Oxicodone? If not, it would
be wise that the doctor knows this.
Just getting myself off of hydrocodone was
not pleasant. It took several weeks after
I had stopped that I felt "normal". As is
normally recommeneded I slowly decreased
my dosage over about a week or more tell I
stopped taking it.
May your son's surgery be a success just
like Joe's.
RichT
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INNOVATOR54
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Thoughts Posted: 11-15-07 07:57am
RichT:
Bonati has already been informed of the
Oxicodone. They are more concerned with
anti-inflammatory drugs. Oxicodone is not
considered an anti-inflammatory drug. The
Doctor responsible for his prescriptions
has also been informed of his upcoming
surgery at Bonati and is aware of all.
This is required by law.
Innovator54
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mj57
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Good Morning Posted: 11-15-07 09:10am
Rich T....I certainly hope you are getting
some help lifting those plants and getting
them in to their new home........that's
alot of weight.......hope the pain is not
bad today for you if not.
Fran......my daughter graduated in
1986......that is so funny......here's
another funny thing........her birthday is
9/21......mine is 6/12....strange huh?
numbers like that have always intrigued
me.....my mothers birthday was 2/21......
It would only be fitting that "Space
Oddessy'' would be their theme....good for
them!
Innovator....yes Dr. Moffatt is my
doctor.......but Dr. Wexner did my surgery
on my lumbar area....and my Si joint. Dr.
Moffatt does Cervical and Thoracic
surgeries....at least that has been the
fact with me. I'm not familiar with
Oxycodone.......I've heard of
Oxycotin(sp)......being very
dangerous....I was given the generic for
Percocet a long time ago......and the
generic for it was and Oxy
something........that freaked me
out.....could not take it.......made me
itch. Loritabs are the only thing I've
found that helps me.
Talk with you all later............mj
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Posted: 11-15-07 14:59pm
Hello MJ,
"No worries" as the Aussies say. My back
was feeling very well last night and same
today. Oh yes, wise or unwise I lifted
the plants myself.
Birthday numbers - I was born on 5/26, our
son on 5/23, and our daughter on 5/28. To
say the least the end of May is a busy
time, especially for my wife. And then
again, she only needs to make one birthday
dinner that we celebrate together. My
wife's birthday is on 2/28, and my
brother's birthday was on 8/28.
Take care.
RichT
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Carrianne
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Posted: 11-15-07 15:25pm
Wow is this thread moving right along! I
take a couple days off (crazy busy at
work) and I'm behind on my reading!
Rich,
Glad you are still feeling relief from
your epidural. That's wonderful! Don't
overdo it though. 40-50 lbs sounds like a
whole lot!! God bless you!
MJ,
Yeah!! So happy you're feeling so well and
wish you all the best on your thoracic
surgery. I'm sure it will be just as
successful as the first 2! God is with
you!
Marie,
We're anxiously awaiting your good news
and continue to pray for a complete
recovery! God bless!
David,
So happy for your great reports also and
look forward to updates when you start PT.
I myself am hoping to start in a week or
two. Hopefully some of this stiffness will
go away. God bless!
Innovator,
I'm so sorry for all the pain that your
son is in and very happy that you have
found this site. You'll find an incredible
support system here! It sounds like your
sons issues are very similar to mine
except my L3/L4 isn't affected. But
everything else is exactly like my issues.
I had surgery at The Bonati Institute so
if you have any questions, fire away! My
surgeon was Dr. Bonati, but I did see Dr.
Moffatt a couple times as well. I had a
complication after my first surgery (which
you've probably read) and Dr. Bonati went
on vacation after my surgery so Dr.
Moffatt saw me and he's incredible. Your
son will be in great hands! God bless!
