BRAVO!!!! for now only taking Tylenol.
That is GREAT!!!!
Why refrain from hugging your surgeon when
you see him? What better way to express
"thank you". Go for it!!!!
Perhaps Marie, having a "fear" of being in
a crowd in a way is a good thing. How do
they say it in driver's ed - Drive
defensively. Yep, very wise to do for
driving AND very wise after back surgery.
It is when we don't pay attention like we
should that most accidents (and traffic
tickets lol) happen.
Seems like perhaps you need a "previously
owned" Honda Civic. My daughter loves
hers and a GREAT car for making U-turns in
the middle of the street just like a
Jeep.
Let's see, what is the title of this
thread? LOL
RichT
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tjh299
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Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 17
Mary Posted: 01-05-08 22:09pm
this is my first time posting, but i have
been reading since october 2007. i took my
husband for laser spine surgery on nov
1st. he was pain free before coming off
the table, he had a great experience, the
people were nice: all of them. we flew
home on the 3rd. he is an electrician and
was very anixous to get back to work, but
waited for 8 weeks.he worked 3 days his
first week back and 4 days later when he
got out of bed, he began to feel pain in
his back and legs again. but not as
intense as before surgery, but very
depressing for him. it has been little
over a week and the pain hasn't went away
yet. the facility that i took him to says
maybe he needs some injections and if that
doesn't help then possibly a second
surgery, woo!!! that will be another big
expense since they don't take ins. was
wondering if anyone has had a bad
experience since surgery or has everyone
been fine? could anyone suggest what might
help my husband, other than surgery.
thanks mary
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Posted: 01-05-08 23:18pm
Hello Tjh,
Welcome to this forum and especially to
this thread. Thanks for following along
since October.
Thank you so very much for sharing with us
your husband's recovery experience since
his surgery. You have given each of us
(whether a poster or just "listening in")
a reality check regarding surgery.
I hope and pray that this is only a
temporary set back for your husband and
that he will not need additional surgery
at this time. Hopefully the injection
will help reduce any inflammation that may
be contributing to your husband's pain.
Again thank you for sharing. I hope
others will share their experiences and
answer the questions that you have asked.
Please do keep us updated. We welcome you
and your husband to our spiney family
here.
RichT
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jimare
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10 Days And Counting Posted: 01-06-08 00:29am
Carriane
I am pinning my hopes on this surgery at
LSI because it is really my last chance to
"get my life back". I so want to be able
to stand up without dying of agony, and
walk again...shop, garden, etc. I go in
Monday and Tues. the 14th and 15th for my
evaluation (MRI, blood work, etc). Your
prayers are really appreciated.Maybe you
could pop in to LSI sometime during the
day. It would be nice to meet you. My
husband will be hanging around in the
cafeteria probably ..(Jim - tall bearded
gentleman - 6.
Did you know isis188 on the other forum?
She was to have surgery at LSI on Jan.
10..in fact she and her husband were
planning to arrive in Florida today and we
were going to try to meet somewhere, but
she just posted yesterday the sad news
that her husband died on Christmas Eve and
that she wouldn't be going anywhere for a
while. How very tragic and sad for her.
She has been suffering a lot and waiting
so long for this surgery.
Mary
Did your husband have his surgery at LSI?
What a disappointment that must be for
you. I think that is what a lot of us are
afraid will happen....paying all that
money only to have nothing change. My
sister had surgery at LSI last January and
she is still doing well....can stand and
walk without pain. She has arthritis in
other parts of her spine, but nothing that
stops her from walking. With the two
open-back surgeries I had in 2001, and
2006 I never had any time that I was
pain-free...only got worse after each one
even though the Drs. both told me that
"this will fix you right up".
Mare
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RichT
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Posted: 01-06-08 08:42am
Good Morning Mare,
Thank you for sharing with us the loss of
Isis husband. I will extend my thoughts
of sympathy to her. A most difficult time
for her now and we need to give her all
the support we can.
Take care.
RichT
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Marie B.
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Can I Ask a Question? Posted: 01-06-08 12:06pm
Mare, Why did you choose LSI over Bonati?
Was it the cost?
Rich, it would be nice to keep a record of
who goes where in regard to the laser
centers in Florida. What specific spinal
problem the doctor would be addressing,
who the actual doctor was who performed
the surgery at the laser center?
I get so torn up when I read statements
eg. this person went to "tada" and had
back surgery, and he did really well but
when I went, or my friend (fill in the
person) went he had a poor results.
If we have no idea what the initial cause
of the pain was that justified the
surgery, how can we judge a place or a
doctor as one we would go to?
I'm afraid there are too many people who
are not learning enough about their spinal
condition, before they decide where to go
and who they want to do their surgery.
Even if a person has pain, it is so
esssential to understand "why the pain?".
When the spine is involved, the person
suffering must go beyond the pain, because
the spouse, brother, sister only knows the
person is having pain. Get another person
involved not only as another person with
ears, but another person that can help
learn about the problem. Today that is so
essential. Please, please, please don't
go to a doctor and think,(no matter if he
says, We will fix you right up.") he will
go in and do the job just right.
And for an electrician to go back to work
8 weeks of surgery and think he can
function as he did before is mistaken
thinking. The last electrician's tool box
I saw come into my house, that box weighed
as much as I did. He also does a lot of
bending, stretching, twisting,lifting and
climbing. Unless he was going back to
perform at a desk and push papers, I would
say he should dampen his anxiousness to be
normal until several months post op have
gone by. He could easily have a disc
herniate again...but we don't know what
the surgery was about in the first place
so we can not offer many suggestions and
can only express our sympathy.
Marie B.
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tjh299
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Thanks For Concern !!! Posted: 01-06-08 15:40pm
yes, my husband had surgery @ LSI and
everything with our experience was great.
yes, my husband is an electrician, but he
doesn't carry around a big box to do his
job with. I don't regret anything that was
done in florida, because they did help
him. and maybe he did go back to work to
soon. but it takes both our wages to pay
our bills. and we don't know how we are
going to pay for the surgery, but we will
get thru it. my husband feels like he is
the man of the family and it is hard for
him to let that male ego go for awhile and
maybe stay home longer, but he didn't. so
now we will deal with it. the reason for
the possible 2nd surgery is that he also
had another level that was a little bad.
so maybe that is causing his pain, i'm not
sure, but i thank you for your thoughts
and prayers. i am glad to here that your
sister is doing fine, that is great.
mary
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jimare
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Lsi Or Bonati Posted: 01-06-08 19:26pm
Marie
I accompanied my sister last Jan. when she
went to LSI and they were so friendly and
helpful...and I was impressed by their
facilities and willingness to answer
questions etc. Not to mention all the
testimonies on the walls and tables, and
the positive reviews from the people who
were in for PT just following their
surgeries. I can't judge Bonati except by
what I read, and they seem to have a
similar type of facility. It seems though
that they do 2 surgeries instead of 1 and
the time period is lengthier. I would
imagine the price is comparitive in the
long run (not sure). I am paying out of
pocket regardless because I can not get
coverage in Canada.
As well, LSI is more convenient to where I
am staying. I understand that some of the
LSI rec'd training at Bonati so would
imagine their method of surgery would be
similar.
I guess it is like any surgery...some
people are fortunate and recover
fully...others continue to suffer or get
worse. With open back, such as I have
had, the percentage rate for successful
surgeries are much lower than for laser
surgeries.
Mary
I know my sister did better and better and
the year progressed so hopefully your
husband will improve over the year. The
price of having surgery is so
enormous...with me it will be a one time
thing.
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Marie B.
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Good Luck Mare Posted: 01-06-08 20:55pm
Mare, I do pray that all will go well
with your surgery. And you are right when
you say that with time a person does
improve. And I agree with you when you
say"with me it will be a one time thing."
I have said to Fran on more then one
occassion that I will go kicking and
screaming if another spinal surgery ever
faces me. You are right that it is "so
enormous." You know, they say a mother
forgets the pain of birthing a child and
that may be true, but the initial pain I
experienced post op after the Pain Paste
that is put on the cauda equina word off,
I can say I don't want to experience that
ever again. Even though it was a short
time of pain and it was not the pain that
I had experienced from the stenosis prior
to my surgery, I don't want to do that
again.
Marie B.
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Marie B.
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Tgh Posted: 01-06-08 21:04pm
I understand about the needed two paycheck
family to get by, today.
I was just saying to my husband that it
was depressing for me to see how hard
people are forced to work today and how
the pressure of the daily work grind now
presses two people. I have been listening
to the debates for the primaries. There
is a lot of talk. But I don't see how they
are ever going to make it easier for
families.
So take care and take care of that husband
of yours. I hope that he will recover and
the pain he is experiencing is nothing but
the newly operated on spine making noise
for more rest.
Marie B.
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My Thoughts On Recovery From Spinal Surgery Posted: 01-09-08 00:49am
I just finished reading the last several
posts about recovering from spinal surgery
and returning to work very quickly and
would like to post some thoughts and
this.
These thoughts are by no means meant to
condemn anyone for anything, including the
type of surgery that they have chosen or
the location in which the surgeries where
done.
They are only my thoughts on recovering
from spinal surgery, as I have, and
returning to as much of life as possible
afterwards.
IMHO, I believe there is a misconception
that laser surgery and or minimally
invasive surgery has a quicker recovery
rate than the more traditional open back
surgery.
I base this on the fact that once the
entry way to the area of surgery is
reached, a laminotomy, laminectomy,
foraminotomy are all one in the same.
The surgical tools may or may not be
different, but the end result is exactly
the same.
It is the entry way that is different and
the recovery from the entry way incision
has a quicker recovery, but the actual
surgery procedure does not heal any
quicker with an endoscopic entry vs an
open back surgical incision.
In otherwords, an endoscopic incision that
is covered with a bandaid will heal more
quickly than a 1 inch surgical incision
and that will heal more quickly than a
larger incision.
But the fact still remains that it takes
quite some time for the surgical site
itself to heal and for the body to recover
from the surgery itself.
One may feel full pain relief as soon as
the surgery is completed. I can vouch for
that myself, and my laminotomy was done
with a minimally invasive 1 inch incision,
closed with 1 stitch and a 2x4 inch gauze
pad covering it, an done under general
anesthesia.
I was discharged 9 hours after arriving at
the hospital, arrived barely able to walk
in, but all but ran out the door.
But that didn't make me recovered, nor was
i recovered 8 weeks after surgery either.
One needs to remember that the, no matter
how the surgery was done, nerves have been
compressed and muscles have not been used,
or used correctly for quite some time.
Many times this has been going on for
years.
It takes a considerable time for the
nerves to heal and the muscles to be able
to function properly again and sometimes
they won't fully recover.
Hence the great importance to a good solid
physical therapy program to help you learn
the proper exercises to do to strengthen
the core muscles, learn to use and reuse
the weakened muscles again. How to
properly move and function again.
This goes along with the internal healing
that is done from the actual surgery
itself and it really doesn't happen in
just a few weeks or even 8 weeks.
It's a long process that takes time and it
really is important to increase activity
very slowly or the risk of further injury
to the weakened muscles, the nerves or
even further injury to the spine is very
likely.
Exercise to keep the core muscles strong
becomes a permanent part of a spinal
surgery patient's life, no matter how the
surgery is done, for the rest of their
lives.
I'm reminded of what my spine surgeon said
to me before I was discharged from the
hospital. He knew me well and how eager I
was to return to my life and do what I had
been doing before the sudden onset of my
spinal problems.
I must admit though, that I headed his
advise and warning for quite some time,
but then suffered the consequences of not
listening to him. Something I will never
do again.
he told me the following
"remember that it takes time to recover
from spinal surgery, regardless of how it
is done. It is a very slow process and
patience will be your worst enemy, but
must be accepted. Full recovery can take
from 6-12 months, in more complicated
surgeries, even longer. The key is to be
patient, slow increase in activity. Slow
start to physical therapy and slowly
increase the tolerance and function. You
will need to take millions of little steps
to reach the goal of return to full
activity. It's kind of like trying to
teach your kids to save their pennies.
Slowly they learn that the pennies add up
to a nickel, a dime, a quarter and before
long a dollar and so on. Over doing and
being impatient are your biggest enemies
and you will have to constantly fight
them, but you must if you want to return
to as much function as possible.
Remember that your spinal problem did not
occur over night. It was not caused by
some massive injury. It was a process
that took many years to reach the level
that it had before surgery. You can not
expect to return to normal overnight.
Your body wasn't built in a day, and it
won't heal in a day or a week, a month or
even 8 weeks. It will take time, lots of
time to regain the strength and function
in the muscles and have the nerves
function again. You will have lots of bad
days and you will have lots of good days.
You may have the nerve pain return for
some time as they start to heal. You may
find that you won't have all the muscle
strength return. Only time and PT will
tell you that.
What you have to remember is that "I" the
doctor have done my job and done all that
I can do to repair the spinal problem you
had. The rest is up to "you", the
patient. Take my advise, work with the
physical therapist, do all that you are
told to do and never forget that core
muscle exercises are a permanent part of
your life as soon as you start PT."
Not only was that said to me by my spinal
surgeon, but it is given to all his
patients on their discharge, printed on a
fancy piece of paper to keep and remind
you of on a daily basis.
Though my doctor does do traditional open
back spinal surgery, including fusions, he
also does many, many endoscopic spinal
surgeries as well. My situation was
originally going to be endoscopic until
complications happened the night before
surgery that warranted doing an open
incision in the event that further surgery
was needed instead of just a simple
laminotomy.
In all that I have said, what I was trying
to get at is this.
Spinal surgery, regardless of how it is
done, takes quite a long time to fully
recover from, lots of good quality
physical therapy and lots and lots of
patience.
I wish that the Laser surgery sites where
far more detailed in what they mean when
they say "short recuperation" as I believe
they mean from the actual entry site to
the surgical area and not the actual total
recovery from surgery itself.
Please those of you that are going to the
Laser surgery facilities, try and remember
that and take plenty of time to fully
recover, do physical therapy and do not
return to work at a very quick rate.
I'm afraid you are setting yourselves up
for further injury or setback if you do.
Just my thoughts and opinions
Fran
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RichT
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Wisdom Given Posted: 01-09-08 04:13am
Good Morning Fran,
No Fran, it is not just your thoughts.
You have given the advice and wisdom each
one of us needs to truly "hear" and
accept.
Fran, of all the posts on this thread
yours ranks amoung the very most
important.
Back in the 80s I had one of the first
arthroscopic knee surgeries. Even a rep
from the company whose instruments were
being used was there for the surgery.
Only two or three 1/4" incisions were
made. My doctor commented after the
surgery that had it not been for the
ability of the new device to enable him to
"see" all over my knee, he would have
missed some fragments. With the new
technique he was able to "zap" those small
fragments with very minimual "intrusion".
Fran, I left that day as an outpatient on
crutches. By the next day he wanted me to
be moving about with crutches and by the
3rd day to be walking slowly about without
crutches. Within a week I felt good as
new.
And after that first week I had an
appointment to see my surgeon. His
lasting remarks and advice to me was -
"This is a fantastic surgical tool which
is very minimually invasive. HOWEVER, the
down side is that patients "think" they
are good as new after a couple of weeks.
They think they can do everything they did
before. He told me that was the biggest
misconception. That even though you feel
fine your body isn't even close to being
recovered. That it takes months (just as
you have so wisely stated).
PATIENCE - Fran, you are RIGHT ON!!! We
Americans especially have this erromeous
terrible "culture" that everything has to
be "NOW". That is not how it is with our
bodies as you stated SOOOOoooo very well.
It does take a LONG time for the body to
recover from the actual surgery site.
Rush it and you pay for it. Be kind and
patient with your body's slow recovery
process and you will be rewarded.
Again Fran, a SUPERB post. I truly hope
people "hear" the wisdom that you have
spoken.
THANKS!!!!
RichT
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Carrianne
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Posted: 01-09-08 10:00am
Fran,
I enjoyed reading your post. I agree that
surgery IS surgery, no matter what doc or
facility you go to. My experiences with my
surgeries have taught me that.
I personally saw both sides of the coin.
Some spoke of instant healing and others
warned me to take it real slow. I think
it's up to the person to take all the info
in and interpret it appropriately.
I am almost 5 months out and still have to
take it really slowly. I have PT 3x/wk and
will go for as long as I can before my
insurance stops paying.
And even then, will do everything I can on
my own for the rest of my life! I make my
vow here!
Patience is definitely key, I agree! A
difficult thing for sure, these days
especially when everything we want is at
our fingertips (as Rich mentioned), but a
must!
For a while I was praying for healing
until I realized that God is already
healing me. Now I pray for patience as I
wait!
Fran, in the discharge letter you
received, something jumped out at me and
made me feel sooo much better:
"You may have the nerve pain return for
some time as they start to heal."
I do still get random pains in my legs and
they're sporadic. Reading the above
statement made me feel better about it.
Even though I'm almost 5 months out, my
nerves are still healing and will be for
some time!
Thanks for brightening my day!
Best wishes and God bless,
Carrianne
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Posted: 01-09-08 10:46am
Hello Carrianne,
About the length of time it takes nerves
to heal.
That reminded me of when a dog ripped up
my hands years ago. There was no muscle
tendon damage thank goodness. The wounds
healed within about a month. Some of my
fingers and thumb were numb because of the
damage to the nerves. It took almost a
year for the nerves to be healed/rejoined
and the numbness in my fingers to be gone.
How long for nerves to heal depends on
various factors I'm sure. The good Lord
will heal them as time goes by.
Take care.
RichT
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Marie B.
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In Response: Posted: 01-09-08 11:08am
In response to what Fran, Rich and
Carriane have posted, I can only say to
those who are reading this Forum:
" For him who has ears, let him hear."
Marie B.
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RichT
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Posted: 01-09-08 12:01pm
Hello Marie,
Thank you for your compliment from the
highest order.
RichT
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Tjh And Her Husband Posted: 01-09-08 15:40pm
tjh,
It does sound like your husband has
returned to work sooner than he should
have, and it could be possible that the
first surgery he had is fine but it has
now caused the other area to have a
problem.
I would suggest that the first thing he
does is to stop working for now. I know
that is easier said than done. I
understand the loss of income, how
stubborn a man can be and their macho
thought process. I have one of those for
a husband too.
I love him dearly, but I have my moments
where the kids old baseball bats are
calling me to just hit him over the head
with one.
But the truth be told, if he he continues
with pain like he has, he will be out of
work an possibly for a much longer time
and it could also mean more surgery.
Is your husband doing and physical
therapy? Has he been doing any exercises
to keep his core muscles strong?
If he has not been going to physical
therapy, I would strongly suggest that he
get an order for physical therapy, have
the PT evaluate and treat him for core
strengthening exercises.
If he has been going and stopped, then he
should return and be evaluated and start
again.
At 8 weeks post op, he should not be
sitting, standing etc in any one position
for more than 30 minutes without changing
position and resting.
You didn't mention, at least that I
recall, what type of surgery your husband
had, but 8 weeks is far from a long time
to recover.
Another suggestion, have your husband
stand in a shower and let the water soak
on the are that is hurting and where the
pain originates from. He should try that
for about 10 minutes. Then after he's
dried off from the shower, he could do
some very gentle core stretches.
He can also use moist heat during the day
to areas that are hurting him.
Has he tried any anti-inflammatory meds
for the pain. Ibuprofen i.e. advil or
motrin to help ease the pain? or extra
strength tylenol?
It may also be that the muscles in his
back and leg are still very weak and he
has simply pulled the muscles. Again, PT
might very well help ease this problem.
Also if he is not moving properly, and we
all need to learn to move and do things
correctly after spinal surgery, that in it
self could be the problem that is causing
the pain.
Again, though, I really believe that your
husband went back to work far too soon
after surgery and is now feeling the
results.
He needs more time to recover, a good PT
program to evaluate what is going on now
and core exercises to do. They are a
permanent part of life post spinal surgery
of any kind, regardless of how the surgery
was performed or what the surgery was for.
Fran
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littleonefb
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Tjh And Her Husband Posted: 01-09-08 15:40pm
tjh,
It does sound like your husband has
returned to work sooner than he should
have, and it could be possible that the
first surgery he had is fine but it has
now caused the other area to have a
problem.
I would suggest that the first thing he
does is to stop working for now. I know
that is easier said than done. I
understand the loss of income, how
stubborn a man can be and their macho
thought process. I have one of those for
a husband too.
I love him dearly, but I have my moments
where the kids old baseball bats are
calling me to just hit him over the head
with one.
But the truth be told, if he he continues
with pain like he has, he will be out of
work an possibly for a much longer time
and it could also mean more surgery.
Is your husband doing and physical
therapy? Has he been doing any exercises
to keep his core muscles strong?
If he has not been going to physical
therapy, I would strongly suggest that he
get an order for physical therapy, have
the PT evaluate and treat him for core
strengthening exercises.
If he has been going and stopped, then he
should return and be evaluated and start
again.
At 8 weeks post op, he should not be
sitting, standing etc in any one position
for more than 30 minutes without changing
position and resting.
You didn't mention, at least that I
recall, what type of surgery your husband
had, but 8 weeks is far from a long time
to recover.
Another suggestion, have your husband
stand in a shower and let the water soak
on the are that is hurting and where the
pain originates from. He should try that
for about 10 minutes. Then after he's
dried off from the shower, he could do
some very gentle core stretches.
He can also use moist heat during the day
to areas that are hurting him.
Has he tried any anti-inflammatory meds
for the pain. Ibuprofen i.e. advil or
motrin to help ease the pain? or extra
strength tylenol?
It may also be that the muscles in his
back and leg are still very weak and he
has simply pulled the muscles. Again, PT
might very well help ease this problem.
Also if he is not moving properly, and we
all need to learn to move and do things
correctly after spinal surgery, that in it
self could be the problem that is causing
the pain.
Again, though, I really believe that your
husband went back to work far too soon
after surgery and is now feeling the
results.
He needs more time to recover, a good PT
program to evaluate what is going on now
and core exercises to do. They are a
permanent part of life post spinal surgery
of any kind, regardless of how the surgery
was performed or what the surgery was for.
Fran
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the Famous Rice Sock Posted: 01-09-08 15:46pm
So here is the way to make the rice sock
to provide moist heat.
Take a long cotton tube sock or mostly
cotton tube sock and fill it about 1/2 or
more full of the cheapest white rice you
can buy.
DO NOT USE INSTANT RICE, IT WILL EXPLODE
IN A MICROWAVE OVEN !!!!!!
AND ALSO DO NOT USE A SOCK THAT IS ALL
NYLON OR ACETATE, IT WILL MELT IN THE
MICROWAVE.
Tie a knot in the sock to hold the rice in
the sock. Place in microwave and heat for
90 seconds. take out and wrap in a hand
towel and place where you need the moist
heat.
You can also use a small baby pillow for
the sock. just use stick on strips of
velcro that you can buy by the yard in the
craft or fabric stores. It self sticks on
material. Fill with the rice and press
closed with the velcro. wrap in a towel
and use the same as the sock.
Fran
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Carrianne
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 107 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: 01-10-08 08:46am
Hi Rich! I hope that all is well with you
and you're having a great morning!
Wow, sounds like you really got it from
that dog. That must have been awful! I'm
sorry you had to go through that. I got
bit when I was little and I've been a
little stand-offish from dogs ever since.
My mother-in-law's doctor told her nerves
only heal 1/4" a month. Something to think
of with after surgery pains.
Hope you have a good day Rich!
Best wishes and God bless,
Carrianne
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