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Is Homosexuality Natural? Posted: 08-12-07 14:18pm
And if it's not, why do people do it?
Without benefit of science, it takes
sexual intercourse between a male and a
female to reproduce and so it could be
argued that heterosexuality is nature's
way.
However, humans have evolved to regard sex
as more than just a method of reproduction
so is homosexuality actually a sign of a
higher evolutionary state?
Opinions please!
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Posted: 08-12-07 15:49pm
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PsychMajor
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Posted: 08-12-07 20:38pm
Homosexuality has been practiced for at
the least hundreds of years, and is
actually mentioned in the bible (atleast
thats what im told, never read it). Also
it is thought to be partially genetic,
though this has yet to be proven it is a
theory. I believe Homosexuality to be not
so much an evolutionary step, but one of
preference, if you prefer the same gender,
and men/women make you happy then go for
it, its your life, ect ect.
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Re: Is Homosexuality Natural? Posted: 08-12-07 20:53pm
Jules
wrote:
And if it's not, why do
people do it?
Without benefit of science, it takes
sexual intercourse between a male and a
female to reproduce and so it could be
argued that heterosexuality is nature's
way.
However, humans have evolved to regard sex
as more than just a method of reproduction
so is homosexuality actually a sign of a
higher evolutionary state?
Opinions
please!
Just like many things leave people
genetically predisposed for behaviors and
other things, I believe that homosexuality
is also genetic. Because it is genetic, it
is obviously natural.
Heterosexuality is of course they way many
species have evolved to procreate.
However, in many animals, homosexuality
ALSO has its place. Penguins have gay
couples... They care for eggs abandoned by
straight couples when two are laid or when
the parents die.
And from a purely evolutionary standpoint,
if a species is procreating well enough,
then it no longer needs every single born
member to procreate later on. Thus,
homosexual predispositions can come out
more.
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Posted: 08-12-07 21:12pm
i believe that you cant help who you fall
in love with
a man with a woman
a man with a man
a woman with a woman
i dont believe that everyone is "born
straight" or "born gay"
we are born to be individual and when the
time comes to fall in love and it happens
with someone reguardless of their sex, its
up to that person.
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Jude-Love
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Posted: 08-12-07 23:29pm
I think some people are born that way and
some people like to experiment.
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milletics
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Posted: 08-13-07 07:02am
Alot of "I think" and "I believe's" here.
Lets see what our ultimate authority
says.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with
mankind, as with womankind: it is
abomination.
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men,
leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which was meet.
1 corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the
unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom
of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind.
A person may be born with a greater
tendency to homosexuality, just as people
are born with a tendency to violence and
other sins. That does not excuse the
person choosing to sin by giving into
their sinful desires.
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Posted: 08-13-07 07:31am
The question is not asking if it is wrong
or right so I won't answer that. But if we
are saying you can't help who you fall in
love with or where your desires lay, born
that way. Then I don't think it is
natural, If that's the case it could be
considered natural to desire children or
animals. If that is the desire a person
was born with!
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milletics
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Posted: 08-13-07 07:56am
meblonde01
wrote:
The question is not asking
if it is wrong or right so I won't answer
that. But if we are saying you can't help
who you fall in love with or where your
desires lay, born that way. Then I don't
think it is natural, If that's the case it
could be considered natural to desire
children or animals. If that is the desire
a person was born
with!
well said. A person may be born with a
tendancy torward pediphilism. Should he
"go for it"?
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Posted: 08-13-07 07:57am
I don't think people are born gay I think
it depends on the way they are raised and
other experiences in life. From an
evolutionary view I don't think it's
natural, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
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benc152
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Posted: 08-13-07 08:04am
I wonder why the focus is always on
homosexuality?
In my opinion homosexuality is A LOT more
natual than asexuality, but asexuals are
definetly accepted more in society.
but who cares if it's "natural" or not?
in the words of bart simposon though "if
it feels good, do it"
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Posted: 08-13-07 08:07am
benc152
wrote:
I wonder why the focus is
always on homosexuality?
In my opinion homosexuality is A LOT more
natual than asexuality, but asexuals are
definetly accepted more in society.
but who cares if it's "natural" or not?
in the words of bart simposon though "if
it feels good, do
it"
does that apply to anything we want?
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benc152
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Posted: 08-13-07 08:48am
meblonde01
wrote:
does that apply to anything we
want?
Well yes, it pretty much does. The
question was is it natural, and if not why
do people do it ..
My anwser, yes it's natural.. but even if
it is unatural does it matter? people do
it because they enjoy it. 'nough said.
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Posted: 08-13-07 11:52am
milletics
wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I
believe's" here. Lets see what our
ultimate authority says.
The bible is not the ultimate authority,
so who gives a flying duck what IT has to
say? I was referencing science, which is
in the business of PROVING things, and has
a habit of OBSERVING the real
world around it.
I have *scientific* sources
that prove homosexuality is natural in the
wild. I have made logical deductions using
science and common sense to apply this
research to human behavior and share my
observations. I didn't reference a fairy
tale, and I didn't lie.
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Posted: 08-13-07 11:53am
Lion79
wrote:
I don't think people are
born gay I think it depends on the way
they are raised and other experiences in
life. From an evolutionary view I don't
think it's natural, but that doesn't mean
it's wrong.
Despite the fact that there is proof in
nature that homosexuality is beneficial to
a species as a whole?
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Posted: 08-13-07 12:04pm
meblonde01
wrote:
The question is not asking
if it is wrong or right so I won't answer
that. But if we are saying you can't help
who you fall in love with or where your
desires lay, born that way. Then I don't
think it is natural, If that's the case it
could be considered natural to desire
children or animals. If that is the desire
a person was born
with!
There is a difference between an activity
that is natural, and one that is... darn,
how to phrase this? I'll use animals as an
example again since it makes this easier.
It would make no sense for an adult
penguin to have sex with a baby penguin.
Not only could he or she potentially harm
the baby, but, it would produce no babies.
Secondly, there is no permanent bonding
between the baby and the adult, since the
baby isn't developed enough for the proper
behavioral and possibly emotional
attachment that another adult could give
it. Two adult penguins of the same gender
certainly aren't producing babies, but
they are both mentally mature enough to
care for an abandoned egg and raise the
chick as their own; thus contributing to
the species as a whole.
I personally wouldn't be surprised to see
a trend among penguins directly
corrolating homosexuality to population
size. If the species is doing well, I bet
more homosexual couples appear. If the
population takes a dive, the behavior
subsides in the next few generations until
the species is doing well again. They give
each other emotional support. Penguins
mate for life, by the way. They're more
monogamous that Americans!
So: Pedophelia - not advantageous in any
way, and in fact harmful. Mental disease.
Loving a creature not of your species is
so obviously not an evolutionary advantage
in so many ways that I don't think it even
needs discussed.
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Posted: 08-13-07 12:36pm
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milletics
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Posted: 08-13-07 13:23pm
Eiri
wrote:
milletics
wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I
believe's" here. Lets see what our
ultimate authority says.
The bible is not the ultimate authority,
so who gives a flying duck what IT has to
say? I was referencing science, which is
in the business of PROVING things, and has
a habit of OBSERVING the real
world around it.
I have *scientific* sources
that prove homosexuality is natural in the
wild. I have made logical deductions using
science and common sense to apply this
research to human behavior and share my
observations. I didn't reference a fairy
tale, and I didn't
lie.
So it sounds like your God is Science.
Did u know that science thought the world
was flat
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Posted: 08-13-07 13:32pm
milletics
wrote:
Eiri
wrote:
milletics
wrote:
Alot of "I think" and "I
believe's" here. Lets see what our
ultimate authority says.
The bible is not the ultimate authority,
so who gives a flying duck what IT has to
say? I was referencing science, which is
in the business of PROVING things, and has
a habit of OBSERVING the real
world around it.
I have *scientific* sources
that prove homosexuality is natural in the
wild. I have made logical deductions using
science and common sense to apply this
research to human behavior and share my
observations. I didn't reference a fairy
tale, and I didn't
lie.
So it sounds like your God is Science.
Did u know that science thought the world
was flat
