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Moo
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Interesting Point Raised By Nightangel
Posted: 08-13-07 06:29am
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | See this is interesting
because if you guys look at it, we do not
congratulate women because they are
pregnant, we only congratulate them when
they are pregnant and we see that the
woman has decided to continue with the
pregnancy. If the same pregnant woman
wants to abort then we do not congratulate
them, but there really is not difference
in the fetus. Moo again i'm happy that you
are preggy I just can't help to see how
funny it is the pro-choicer congratulating
when they speak here that the embryo is
something that don't even deserve to have
the right to live. Then suddenly when the
womans wants to continue pregnancy then
they think it is special and go
congratulate and say how wonderful.
Hyprocites. |
The difference comes with the choice of
the woman, if a woman is happy to be
pregnant then people congratulate them as
it is something wanted.
When a woman is unhappily pregnant then
people don't as the woman is clearly in a
place where it would be inappropriate (I
was congratulated once on my aborted
pregnancy).
True it's no different for the z/e/f but
being pro-choice is primarily concerned
with the woman. I don't think it's
hypocritical - pro-choice is about that -
choice whether to abort,
continue or continue and adopt. I can't
honestly imagine anyone who has said
congrats to me, who is pro-choice, was
particularly concerned with my foetus,
more the fact that I'm happy about it!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-13-07 12:57pm
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I agree O.o
I was happy for YOU Moo, not the fetus
inside of you! What a silly concept lol.
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Anne123
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Posted: 08-13-07 13:11pm
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If a woman were being forced into an
arranged marriage she doesn't want, I
would not say "congratulations".
If a woman were marrying a man that she
chose to marry and was happy to marry, I
certainly would say "congratulations".
The difference is that the woman is
happy/excited about the situation she is
in, hence congratulations are in order.
If she is not happy about the situation it
wouldn't be appropriate to congratulate
her.
Another example:
Woman A has been ttc for quite some time
and gets her period. No congrats for that
- af is just a reminder that she is not
pregnant yet.
Woman B had a condom break and took the
morning after pill but is still worried...
until the day her period comes. She is
happy and rejoices that af has arrived -
congratulations are in order.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-13-07 13:26pm
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Correct...
We are congratulating MOO, not her
embryo/fetus.
We are happy that SHE is happy, and that
these are her wishes coming true.
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Gu£st
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Posted: 08-13-07 22:07pm
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I think its interesting how the fetus or
unborn child can be seen as a material
object like unwanted gift or a wanted
gift. Honestly I think that is sick
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-14-07 00:30am
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Let me pat you on the back Guest, for
being one of the only people whose opinion
we don't
care about! Hahah!
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Gu£st
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Posted: 08-14-07 06:00am
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"Let me pat you on the back Guest, for
being one of the only people whose opinion
we don't care about! Hahah!"
thank you erie its good to know I am on
the same side as the unborn children.
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Jincks013
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Posted: 08-14-07 07:09am
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Perhaps it isn't so much the embryo that
she is being congradulated for but her
Choice to gestate it. Let me reiterate.
Her Chice. If she is joyfully looking
forward to the pregnancy then yes,
congradulations are in order.
Did that not occure to you Nightangel?
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-14-07 10:09am
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Congratulations are not given to 'money'
when someone wins the lottery. We are not
congratulating money for having a new
'owner', we are congratulating the person
for winning.
THE PERSON who bought the ticket.
The person who is pregnant, NOT the
embryo.
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Rodge
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Posted: 08-14-07 11:12am
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| Carifairy
wrote: | Congratulations are not
given to 'money' when someone wins the
lottery. We are not congratulating money
for having a new 'owner', we are
congratulating the person for winning.
THE PERSON who bought the ticket.
The person who is pregnant, NOT the
embryo. |
I am totally gonna start congratulating my
money for having me as an owner.
I like you. You make me laugh. 
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-14-07 12:07pm
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| Gu£st
wrote: | "Let me pat you on the back
Guest, for being one of the only people
whose opinion we don't care about!
Hahah!"
thank you erie its good to know I am on
the same side as the unborn
children. |
Well, you know, I have this thing called
common sense.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-14-07 20:34pm
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| Jincks013
wrote: | Perhaps it isn't so much the
embryo that she is being congradulated for
but her Choice to gestate it. Let me
reiterate. Her Chice. If she is joyfully
looking forward to the pregnancy then yes,
congradulations are in order.
Did that not occure to you
Nightangel? |
Yes that is what it occured so I wanted to
point it out. It's for her choice to
gestate it. It's not because the embryo is
something special. I do feel they are so
for me I congratulate because i believe
what is growing inside the baby is a
miracle.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-14-07 20:38pm
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| Gu£st
wrote: | "Let me pat you on the back
Guest, for being one of the only people
whose opinion we don't care about!
Hahah!"
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eiri you are so rude, can't believe they
made somebody rude like you a moderator.
Particulary with Guest, he/she is such a
sweet person. And I care for his opinion
okay so don't say WE.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-14-07 20:53pm
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Nightangel, you're one of the other people
whose opinion we don't care about *smirk*.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-14-07 21:04pm
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| Eiri
wrote: | | Nightangel, you're one of
the other people whose opinion we don't
care about *smirk*. |
Define who is "WE"
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amino65
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Posted: 08-14-07 22:22pm
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I'm pretty sure that when Eiri says "we"
it means most everyone of the posters on
here. You and Guest say some pretty
outlandish things, which is why most of us
have learned to stop caring. ^_^.
Anywho, yeah, congrats moo, glad
everything is going as you wished!
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Birch
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Posted: 08-14-07 22:31pm
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Now, now, if you don't care about their
opinions you would not respond. 
I care what people on here think - to a
certain point. They are representatives
of a larger collection of people, and when
you come across someone in "real life"
that, say, has the same opinion as guest
or nightangel, you may have a better
understanding of what that person thinks
or feels or where they are coming from.
I'm not on the forum to only hear from
people who absolutely agree with me in
everyway.
And I am interested in what guest and
nightangel have to say, even though I
think it might be nutzy.
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Posted: 08-14-07 22:53pm
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| Birch
wrote: | Now, now, if you don't care
about their opinions you would not
respond.
I care what people on here think - to a
certain point. They are representatives
of a larger collection of people, and when
you come across someone in "real life"
that, say, has the same opinion as guest
or nightangel, you may have a better
understanding of what that person thinks
or feels or where they are coming from.
I'm not on the forum to only hear from
people who absolutely agree with me in
everyway.
And I am interested in what guest and
nightangel have to say, even though I
think it might be
nutzy. |
Right on Birch! I was going to say the
same, if she doesn't care why does she
responds? What she refers to "We" is just
the pro-choicers. Whoever disagrees with
her opinions, and that is us the
pro-lifers then she doesn't care. But she
loves to responds to every of our posts.
Eiri you are rude and you absolutetly lack
of class. And you shouldn't be a
moderator. Moderators are supposed to be
treat posters with respect particulary to
those who don't show abusive behavior like
Guest so they want to come back again,
which is the objective of the people that
built this site. You are hurting them. If
I were the site owner I would have kicked
you out of the moderator status in a
heartbeat for rude.
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Posted: 08-15-07 04:36am
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Everyone's opinion is welcome here, as
long as it is given in a non-abusive way.
Birch hit the nail on the head, just don't
respond if you're not interested in what
someone has to say.
Can we please keep the personal comments
out of this now and get the thread back on
track?
Ta.
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Posted: 08-15-07 07:50am
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| Birch
wrote: | Now, now, if you don't care
about their opinions you would not
respond.
I care what people on here think - to a
certain point. They are representatives
of a larger collection of people, and when
you come across someone in "real life"
that, say, has the same opinion as guest
or nightangel, you may have a better
understanding of what that person thinks
or feels or where they are coming from.
I'm not on the forum to only hear from
people who absolutely agree with me in
everyway.
And I am interested in what guest and
nightangel have to say, even though I
think it might be
nutzy. |
Bravo Birch! you get a heart and a yellow
star icon, just as soon as I find one..
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