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Just Didn't Want a Baby? Posted: 08-17-07 00:58am
Lots of people on this forum have often
said that abortion is acceptable in
certain circumstances, ie; rape, incest,
health issues. But what if there are no
special circumstances? What if the woman
just isn't ready to be a parent?
I'm wondering what you all think of this
because I don't really know what I think
about it... I'm one of those pro choice
but pro life for myself people- I wouldn't
have an abortion but I respect a person's
right to choose an abortion if they want
to.
Thoughts??
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Anne123
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Posted: 08-17-07 08:40am
I think that most of the people who state
that abortion is okay only under certain
circumstances may still be straddling the
fence on the issue.
A woman has the right to choose no matter
what the circumstances, including if she
just isn't ready to be a parent.
Noone should have to justify to anyone
else their reasons for having an abortion.
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benc152
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Posted: 08-17-07 08:46am
i'm the same as you, pro choice but pro
life for me , to an extent
I think abortion is ok if you don't want
the child although not the best option,
however if the woman doesn't want it and
the man involved does I think it's
terrible.
And in best case scenario have it and put
it up for adoption.
unless the baby is ill and will live a
horrible life if born I don't really agree
with abortion.
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 08-17-07 08:50am
I'm definitely pro-choice for everyone
else and pro-life for me. I think there a
lot of better options than abortion out
there for a woman who simply does not want
a baby but it's not my choice. If she
chooses to have an abortion for that
reason it is not my place to judge her.
There's a reason that it's called
pro-choice. If she's looked seriously at
other options but feels that abortion is
her best one, that's her choice. Not
mine, not anyone else's.
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Rodge
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Posted: 08-17-07 10:47am
I think it's a perfectly valid reason for
an abortion. Why have a child you know you
don't want and would rather not be
carrying?
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young Girl
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Posted: 08-17-07 10:50am
Anne123
wrote:
I think that most of the
people who state that abortion is okay
only under certain circumstances may still
be straddling the fence on the issue.
A woman has the right to choose no matter
what the circumstances, including if she
just isn't ready to be a parent.
Noone should have to justify to anyone
else their reasons for having an
abortion.
well said anne
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Birch
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Posted: 08-17-07 11:46am
It's not my concern why a woman wants to
have an abortion. She is the one that has
to go through with it, and live with her
decision, not me.
I just can't imagine making that kind of
decision for another woman. Yee.
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Jude-Love
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Posted: 08-17-07 20:00pm
In my opinion, that is one of the best
reasons to have an abortion. A person who
doesn't want to be a parent would probably
not be a good one.
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Re: Just Didn't Want a Baby? Posted: 08-17-07 20:14pm
Georgia59
wrote:
Lots of people on this forum
have often said that abortion is
acceptable in certain circumstances, ie;
rape, incest, health issues. But what if
there are no special circumstances? What
if the woman just isn't ready to be a
parent?
I'm wondering what you all think of this
because I don't really know what I think
about it... I'm one of those pro choice
but pro life for myself people- I wouldn't
have an abortion but I respect a person's
right to choose an abortion if they want
to.
Thoughts??
Well obviously, forcing someone to give
birth is NOT going to make them a good
parent. Passing a baby through a birth
canal doesn't make you a good parent, and
it doesn't make you ready to
be parent.
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Gu£st
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Posted: 08-17-07 20:19pm
"I think it's a perfectly valid reason for
an abortion. Why have a child you know you
don't want and would rather not be
carrying? "
you see that is the kind of mindset I dont
think I will ever understand.
Why have the child?
You dont want it!
You would rather not cary it!
Kill it!
I would rather say to the woman
"You dont want the child, you would rather
not carry the child
but why not have the child anyway, the
child is alive and you dont want to kill
the child, you dont!!! Ok you dont want
the child and you would rather not carry
it but you dont want to kill it neither,
you dont want to go through your entire
life carrying that burden on your
conscience either, so lets talk about
where we can go from here."
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-17-07 21:23pm
Gu£st
wrote:
but why not have the child anyway,
Because it is feeding off of my body and
using my body's resources without my
permission.
Quote:
the child is
alive and you dont want to kill the child,
you dont!!!
It's not a child; and are you a
mind-reader? Even if you are, you're very
bad at it since that's not what I'm
thinking at all.
Quote:
Ok you dont want
the child and you would rather not carry
it but you dont want to kill it
neither,
Again, I didn't know you were a mind
reader and agan, you're wrong.
Quote:
you dont want to
go through your entire life carrying that
burden on your conscience either, so lets
talk about where we can go from
here."
I'm so glad you think you know exactly
what every single pregnant woman on the
planet is thinking.
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Gu£st
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Posted: 08-17-07 21:42pm
"I'm so glad you think you know exactly
what every single pregnant woman on the
planet is thinking."
I know this much not one single woman
would choose to have an abortion if she
didnt have too!!
Why do they have abortion?
It seems you are saying is it because
It's not a child
or because it is feeding via the womans
body and using her body's resources
without her express permission
no these are lame pro choice arguments, I
am talking real life here erie, i am not
interested in debating your arguments.
No woman would choose to have an abortion
if she didnt feel she needed to have one,
no woman has an abortion because "its
feeding via my body" or because "its not a
child and I gave it no permission" best
that they could ever be is mere arguments
to try to give some sort of rational to
the decision once it is made.... women
make the decision to abort on real life
problems not theortical arguments about
the worth or the viability, the humanity
of the child or the permision of the child
to feed via a womans body...so dont try
and come here with that because not even
you would advise a woman to have an
abortion because it was feeding via her
body or because it was not a child.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-17-07 22:03pm
Gu£st
wrote:
"I'm so glad you think you
know exactly what every single pregnant
woman on the planet is thinking."
I know this much not one single woman
would choose to have an abortion if she
didnt have
too!!
You do? Lemme set you straight: A woman
who chooses abortion would rather choose
to not be pregnant in the first place if
she didn't have to be!!
Quote:
Why do they have
abortion?
Because she doesn't want to be pregnant.
Quote:
It seems you are
saying is it because It's not a
child
No, she wants and abortion because she
doesn't want to be pregnant.
Quote:
or because it is
feeding via the womans body and using her
body's resources without her express
permission
Well it IS, can't biologically deny that.
Quote:
no these are lame
pro choice arguments, I am talking real
life here erie, i am not interested in
debating your
arguments.
None of what I have said is lame.
The woman does not want to be pregnant.
That is fact. I don't see how that's lame.
Have you ever been pregnant? I haven't
thank god, and I certainly don't want to
be any time soon.
By the way, it's spelled "Eiri" (Not
"Erie" which is a city in Pennsylvania),
and if 3 different letters is too hard for
you, you could always try my real name.
Krystyna.
Quote:
No woman would
choose to have an abortion if she didnt
feel she needed to have one,
Well no shiz, sherlock.
Quote:
no woman has an
abortion because "its feeding via my body"
or because "its not a child and I gave it
no permission" best that they could ever
be is mere arguments to try to give some
sort of rational to the decision once it
is made....
Um, actually I am prtty sure that those
are actual reasons women do abort,
especially since I know women whom those
reasons BELONG to.
Quote:
women make the
decision to abort on real life problems
not theortical arguments about the worth
or the
viability,
Care to explain to me how an embryo
feeding off of your nutrients isn't a
real-world problem?
Quote:
the humanity of
the child or the permision of the child to
feed via a womans
body...
This sentence is completely useless as it
is filled with so many falsities and
incorrect descriptions that it's not even
worth it,
Quote:
so dont try and
come here with that because not even you
would advise a woman to have an abortion
because it was feeding via her body or
because it was not a
child.
Those aren't the only reasons you fool. I
don't even need to explain the numerous
reasons.
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msrosie
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Posted: 08-17-07 22:29pm
Even if I didn't have my health issues, I
would abort because I do not *ever* want
to put my body thru the trauma of
gestation and childbirth. I support a
woman's right to abort in the first
trimester for any reason she has.
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Re: Just Didn't Want a Baby? Posted: 08-17-07 22:51pm
Georgia59
wrote:
Lots of people on this forum
have often said that abortion is
acceptable in certain circumstances, ie;
rape, incest, health issues. But what if
there are no special circumstances? What
if the woman just isn't ready to be a
parent?
I'm wondering what you all think of this
because I don't really know what I think
about it... I'm one of those pro choice
but pro life for myself people- I wouldn't
have an abortion but I respect a person's
right to choose an abortion if they want
to.
Thoughts??
well first she shouldn't be having sex
irresponsibly so she doesn't get pregnant
in the first place. Second if she feels
not ready to be a parent, then she got 9
months to be getting ready. You can always
change.
I just hired a contractor to build a new
bathroom in my house. He came with his
wife today and I learned that she is 35
and has a 20 year old son and 17 year old
son and a baby girl less than a year old.
If you do math she had the first kid when
she was 15. And she is doing good, very
nice the husband she got now.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 08-17-07 22:54pm
Gu£st
wrote:
"women make the decision to
abort on real life problems not theortical
arguments about the worth or the
viability, the humanity of the child or
the permision of the child to feed via a
womans body...so dont try and come here
with that because not even you would
advise a woman to have an abortion because
it was feeding via her body or because it
was not a
child.
very good point guest. When I read the
ladies looking for abortion i never hear
then saying they do so because the embryo
had no perfmission of her to be there and
things like that.
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Confused_Stressed
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Posted: 08-17-07 23:19pm
I believe that a woman does have a right
to do whatever she wants to her body.
peirce it, lipo, boobs, whatever. Abortion
ITS STILL HER BODY! if we take the right
away for her to refuse to give birth
within the first trimester GRANTED....
then refuse every other cosmetic procedure
to EVERYONE EVER! It all boils down to a
woman does not want to give birth, for
whatever reason...its her choice.
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haliparot
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Re: Just Didn't Want a Baby? Posted: 08-18-07 02:55am
nightangel73
wrote:
Georgia59
wrote:
Lots of people on this forum
have often said that abortion is
acceptable in certain circumstances, ie;
rape, incest, health issues. But what if
there are no special circumstances? What
if the woman just isn't ready to be a
parent?
I'm wondering what you all think of this
because I don't really know what I think
about it... I'm one of those pro choice
but pro life for myself people- I wouldn't
have an abortion but I respect a person's
right to choose an abortion if they want
to.
Thoughts??
well first she shouldn't be having sex
irresponsibly so she doesn't get pregnant
in the first place. Second if she feels
not ready to be a parent, then she got 9
months to be getting ready. You can always
change.
I just hired a contractor to build a new
bathroom in my house. He came with his
wife today and I learned that she is 35
and has a 20 year old son and 17 year old
son and a baby girl less than a year old.
If you do math she had the first kid when
she was 15. And she is doing good, very
nice the husband she got
now.
what do you mean by "having sex
irresponsibly"? I guess you don't know the
fact that more than half of unplanned
pregnancies are due to contraceptive
failure. Which means they use birth
control and yet got pregnant?
Or does it mean "abstinence until
marriage"? How about a married woman who
had an abortion after she found out she is
pregnant since she NEVER wants to have
kids? I want to know your opinion about
this.
And yes, it is possible to be well off
even if you got pregnant at 15. Though
probably you are not reading articles and
latest statistics that teenage single
parenthood is one of the causes or
poverty. Do you even know if the 20 year
old son is not adopted?
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Re: Just Didn't Want a Baby? Posted: 08-18-07 10:22am
haliparot
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
Georgia59
wrote:
Lots of people on this forum
have often said that abortion is
acceptable in certain circumstances, ie;
rape, incest, health issues. But what if
there are no special circumstances? What
if the woman just isn't ready to be a
parent?
I'm wondering what you all think of this
because I don't really know what I think
about it... I'm one of those pro choice
but pro life for myself people- I wouldn't
have an abortion but I respect a person's
right to choose an abortion if they want
to.
Thoughts??
well first she shouldn't be having sex
irresponsibly so she doesn't get pregnant
in the first place. Second if she feels
not ready to be a parent, then she got 9
months to be getting ready. You can always
change.
I just hired a contractor to build a new
bathroom in my house. He came with his
wife today and I learned that she is 35
and has a 20 year old son and 17 year old
son and a baby girl less than a year old.
If you do math she had the first kid when
she was 15. And she is doing good, very
nice the husband she got
now.
what do you mean by "having sex
irresponsibly"? I guess you don't know the
fact that more than half of unplanned
pregnancies are due to contraceptive
failure. Which means they use birth
control and yet got pregnant?
Or does it mean "abstinence until
marriage"? How about a married woman who
had an abortion after she found out she is
pregnant since she NEVER wants to have
kids? I want to know your opinion about
this.
And yes, it is possible to be well off
even if you got pregnant at 15. Though
probably you are not reading articles and
latest statistics that teenage single
parenthood is one of the causes or
poverty. Do you even know if the 20 year
old son is not
adopted?
Over 90% of contraceptive failure is due
to missuse. If you are using them
correctly and you use two forms of
contraception, that is the pill plus
condoms, it's almost impossible to get
pregnant. Like I use the pill only because
I don't have a problem if it fails. Should
I really want to avoid pregnancy I would
also use condoms with it. That's what the
doctors have to do with patients taking
drugs like accutane, it is mandatory two
forms of contraceptio. Personally I
actually did absitence. If yor are
married and you never want kids then tie
your tubes or get the man have a
vasectomy. That's what I plan to do.
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