Abortion Scheduled For Tuesday Need Questions Answered Asap! Posted: 08-25-07 23:13pm
i just found out i was pregnant
Wednesday.
Clinic saw me on Thursday, confirmed i am
pregnant, 9wks5days.
Abortion scheduled for Tuesday 7:30am.
as you can see, this has all happened very
fast. we were very surprised considering
we use protection and try to time it so
that we dont have sex around my ovulation
days. i cant take hormonal birth control
because i am on lamcital, and i cant
afford the non-hormonal options which
arent offered at my local health clinic
for free. Unfortunately safe sex failed,
and i apparently ovulate the day after i
am done with my period.
a little about myself:
*i already have 1 child (3yrs old). i was
induced for her birth, in labor for 12
hours, stalled at 4cm, had C-section.
*i am 28yrs, single mom. my child & i
live with my parents (who do not know
about this nor that i am seeing the father
whom they despise). i am currently
unemployed, looking for a job, desperately
trying to get on my feet, and obviously
unable to have another child due to my
financial situation. the father is unable
to have a child right now as well because
of his own legitimate situational reasons
which i wont get into. bringing another
child into this world would be very
foolish and unfair to the baby as well as
everyone involved.
*i was adamantly pro-choice prior to this,
therefore able to make this decision
quickly without being too emotionally torn
and able to quickly accept that it was the
best decision given my current situation.
(although i do admit, i wish we could keep
it and wish that the circumstances were
different.)
i have a few questions/concerns that i
need answered ASAP so that i can be
prepared:
1. i was diagnosed bipolar earlier
this year, so my medication is still kind
of in the trial & error stage and i
dont think i've been seen long enough to
know how i'm going to respond to an
abortion. should i let my physician
know immediately? or just wait and see?
anyone bipolar or experienced in this
field that can advise me? 1a. i've had post-op
depression in the past. is this
indicative of how i will respond to the
abortion?
2. i will be given a nerve block
(local anesthesia) but nothing else for
the procedure. i've been told that i will
feel 'pressure'; but not 'pain' because
they said that the procedure is more
emotional than painful. what do you
guys have to say about that?(dont
worry, you wont scare me so go ahead and
be honest.) 2a. i've had a C-section,
breast implants, & lipo in the past;
all of which were a walk in the park for
me. i did not consider them painful at
all. during labor, my strongest
contractions only felt like period cramps
to me, that was it. so i gather that i
have a high threshold for pain. can the
same be expected for the abortion?
3. i will be prescribed Loratabs
for pain after the Sx, do you think
this will be sufficient? 3a. i have valium & xanax
that i can take beforehand (or afterward,
not sure when would be most beneficial).
would you recommend that i take 1 of
these and when?*my doctor's
assistant said it was okay to take
whatever i wanted but i thought i'd better
get some opinions first.
okay i think i covered everything for now.
i really appreciate this forum being here.
god bless all of the supportive &
educated members who are dedicated to it.
p.s. - pro-lifers need not waste your time
responding here. your arguements are tired
& ludicrous; and your efforts are
futile as far as i'm concerned. i do not
have the patience nor the time to respond
to you thus anything you have to say will
be ignored. like my name says - i think 4
myself and i stand by what i believe is
right.
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Tylanas
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Don't worry, non-supportive comments on
here are not allowed and are removed
You've got lots of good questions, and
I'll try to answer as many as I can until
the other ladies get on here.
1. I do think you should inform your
physician, just so if there are
complications, medication can be adjusted
properly.
1a. It is possible that your previous
post-op depression will return, but I
don't know enough about that to give any
more information.
2. I don't know, but some of the ladies
here will.
2a. I think your good reactions to pain in
the past will definitely help here.
3. I have heard it advised that women take
ibuprofen before the abortion to help
lessen pain.
3a. See above heh.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-26-07 00:27am
A nerve block will not be enough. With
only that, it would be painful..
I have had an abortion, AND I work in an
abortion clinic. We give all women IV
sedation.
Your best bet would be to find a clinic
that offers IV sedation.
SOME women choose to not have IV
anesthesia, and they do say it is quite
painful.
I recommend IV sedation, it really makes
the procedure comfortable.
SOME clinics do not offer IV sedation, and
I personally would not use them, because I
believe that comfort is a big deal.
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think4yourself
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Posted: 08-26-07 00:56am
crap! i was afraid you'd say that about
the nerve block.
i think it will be a problem finding a
clinic around here that offers IV
sedation. i havent heard of any
clinics that were actually recommended by
anyone other than the one i'm going to
all i've heard from other girls is, "they
didnt give me any anesthesia! it wasnt
even an option even if we were willing to
pay for it. it was like they wanted to
torture us so we wouldnt do it again!"
have any of you heard of any decent
clinics in louisiana? i went to the site
that you frequently post on here but it
doesnt have ANY clinics listed at all. i
actually had better luck finding a lot
more listings on an pro-life site, lol!
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-26-07 02:31am
You can PM me..
What cities are you close to?
Are you close to another state?
NOT offering IV sedation is cheaper,
because they do not need as much
monitoring equipment, and they can see a
lot more people.
Sounds kind of 'herdy'.
ANYTHING, even a high dose of valium would
be better than nothing.
Bossier City - Bossier City Medical Suite
318-747-0330 / 800-749-7267
Metairie / New Orleans - Causeway Medical
Suite 504-837-1272 / 800-749-7265
Shreveport - Hope Medical Group For Women
318-221-5500 / 800-448-5004
These are some places you could call and
ask =) Maybe they offer it.
If you can travel to another state, many
other options do exist.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-26-07 02:34am
Texas has a lot of nice abortion clinics,
every one of them offers IV sedation...
Can you travel to texas at all?
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-26-07 02:40am
Here are a few more.. You may have to call
to make sure addresses and phone numbers
are correct. Women may have used them
before hurricane katrina, but they could
have had problems and rebuilt elsewhere.
This one offers IV sedation..
Delta clinic of Baton Rouge
756 Colonial Dr
Baton Rouge, LA Map
* (800) 937-3242
Gentilly womens clinic
3030 Gentilly Blvd
New Orleans, LA 70122 Map
* (504) 943-2423
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think4yourself
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Posted: 08-26-07 08:57am
Carifairy
wrote:
You can PM me..
What cities are you close to?
Are you close to another
state?
i am 45min from Baton Rouge (which is
where my best friend lives and whom i will
be staying with.)
i am 2hrs from New Orleans, 3hrs from
Shreveport/Bossier, and 2hrs from
Beaumont, Tx.
Cost is a major issue here. To have it
done with IV sedation - my most likely
option would be Baton Rouge. I've already
paid $150 for my consultation at the 1st
place and Im sure i'd have to pay for
another consultation should i go
elsewhere; plus i'm guessing the cost of
the procedure will be much more
expensive.
After that, I definitely would not be able
to afford a hotel room & gas - not to
mention the change in plans would mean i'd
have to come up with a new alibi to tell
my parents, (which sadly is the most
complicated part of the task at hand).
But it sounds like having IV sedation
would certainly be worth the trouble.
Quote:
NOT offering IV
sedation is cheaper, because they do not
need as much monitoring equipment, and
they can see a lot more people.
Sounds kind of
'herdy'.
thats what i was thinking. when i asked
about general anesthesia, they said it was
too dangerous which sounded sketchy to me
because i'm no stranger to general
anesthesia; all of my surgeries have been
outpatient (minus the c-section) so i know
its not that dangerous - like you
said, its just a matter of monitoring
equipment, cost, & recovery time.
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think4yourself
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Posted: 08-26-07 09:21am
also if you had to guess, how much can i
expect a procedure w/IV sedation to cost?
just to give you an idea...
the one i'm scheduled for (which is just a
nerve block - local anesthesia) costs:
$375 (thats including the $150 i've
already paid for the initial
consultation.)
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Carifairy
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Posted: 08-26-07 11:26am
IN TEXAS, IF you can travel 2 hours...
NO CONSULTATION. They do everything in ONE
DAY. The ONLY thing you have to do is LOOK
at 'government mandated material' that the
clinic provides, and that would satisfy
any needs.
The website explains everything. MANY
clinics have to do a 24 hour waiting
period, because PL'ers hope that it will
deter women seeking an abortion.
TEXAS has very inexpensive clinics. You
would pay about 375-420$ for IV sedation
abortion.
One clinic in Dallas only costs 295$ for
the same service.
Here is one in beaumont-
They charge 373.. 350 for the abortion
PLUS 25$ for twilight sedation...
That might be better if you want a little
more 'comfort'..
They have a few other locations, so that
is why it says 'austin abortion', because
austin was where their first clinic was
=)
They tried to get a "Mandatory 24hr"
period in Texas, like louisiana, but it
did not work.
So you don't have to pay for any extra
couseling =) All you have to do is
'listen' to a recording, or 'say' that you
did.
It might be better to go to Beaumont,
because it is only 375$ for an abortion
with sedation, and you do not need a
consultation, they do everything in one
day.
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Ingi
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Posted: 08-26-07 11:52am
It isn't that bad with a local. Take a
valium beforehand and you'll get through
it fine. You said you have a high
tolerance for pain and, honestly, it isn't
that bad. It only lasts a few minutes then
it is over. Why spend more money, more
time and energy on something that is only
going to take a few minutes?
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Posted: 08-26-07 11:55am
How is she going to get Valuim?
The clinic does not offer ANYTHING.
Most people do not keep valium around just
in case.
IV sedation costs just as much as an
abortion without, in many cases. It is
just that the clinic wants to keep
recovery LOW, and patient count high.
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think4yourself
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Posted: 08-26-07 13:40pm
Carifairy
wrote:
IN TEXAS, IF you can travel
2 hours...
NO CONSULTATION. They do everything in ONE
DAY. The ONLY thing you have to do is LOOK
at 'government mandated material' that the
clinic provides, and that would satisfy
any needs.
The website explains everything. MANY
clinics have to do a 24 hour waiting
period, because PL'ers hope that it will
deter women seeking an abortion.
TEXAS has very inexpensive clinics. You
would pay about 375-420$ for IV sedation
abortion.
Here is one in beaumont-
They charge $350 for the abortion PLUS 25$
for twilight sedation...
That might be better if you want a little
more 'comfort'..
They have a few other locations, so that
is why it says 'austin abortion', because
austin was where their first clinic was
=)
http://www.aus
tinabortion.com/beaumont/index.html
They tried to get a "Mandatory 24hr"
period in Texas, like louisiana, but it
did not work.
So you don't have to pay for any extra
couseling =) All you have to do is
'listen' to a recording, or 'say' that you
did.
It might be better to go to Beaumont,
because it is only 375$ for an abortion
with sedation, and you do not need a
consultation, they do everything in one
day.
Sweet! Thank you soooo much! I was really
impressed by the site. I emailed them to
schedule my appointment. Hopefully, if
they can take me tuesday or wednesday,
i'll be able to do it there.
thank you so much for your help, i really
really appreciate it!
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Posted: 08-26-07 13:48pm
think4yourself
wrote:
Carifairy
wrote:
IN TEXAS, IF you can travel
2 hours...
NO CONSULTATION. They do everything in ONE
DAY. The ONLY thing you have to do is LOOK
at 'government mandated material' that the
clinic provides, and that would satisfy
any needs.
The website explains everything. MANY
clinics have to do a 24 hour waiting
period, because PL'ers hope that it will
deter women seeking an abortion.
TEXAS has very inexpensive clinics. You
would pay about 375-420$ for IV sedation
abortion.
Here is one in beaumont-
They charge $350 for the abortion PLUS 25$
for twilight sedation...
That might be better if you want a little
more 'comfort'..
They have a few other locations, so that
is why it says 'austin abortion', because
austin was where their first clinic was
=)
http://www.aus
tinabortion.com/beaumont/index.html
They tried to get a "Mandatory 24hr"
period in Texas, like louisiana, but it
did not work.
So you don't have to pay for any extra
couseling =) All you have to do is
'listen' to a recording, or 'say' that you
did.
It might be better to go to Beaumont,
because it is only 375$ for an abortion
with sedation, and you do not need a
consultation, they do everything in one
day.
Sweet! Thank you soooo much! I was really
impressed by the site. I emailed them to
schedule my appointment. Hopefully, if
they can take me tuesday or wednesday,
i'll be able to do it there.
thank you so much for your help, i really
really appreciate
it!
best of luck to you and i hope it all goes
well!!!!!
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Re: Abortion Scheduled For Tuesday Need Questions Answered A Posted: 08-26-07 13:59pm
I'm a little late on the fly for this, but
I just wanted to say a couple
things....one is that you don't have to
justify your reasons for getting an
abortion, to anyone, period.
The second is that your bpd/o meds may not
react well with anesthetic. You need to
find out from your doctor and s/he will
take into account your dosage and the
exact nature of the medication. If you
are on anti-depressants, this is very
important. If you are on antipsychotics,
it's also very, very important. Drug
interactions could cause a spiraling one
way or the other or other adverse
reactions.
The other one is that, and maybe Carifairy
knows more, I have read that general
anesthesia is the root cause of
abortion-related serious issues. Any
surgery that requires general has an
elevated risk due to the nature of the
anesthestic. I would stick to local. It
is not so painful as it is an...well, odd
sensation.
Best wishes!
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Re: Abortion Scheduled For Tuesday Need Questions Answered a Posted: 08-26-07 15:23pm
Birch
wrote:
I'm a little late on the fly
for this, but I just wanted to say a
couple things....one is that you don't
have to justify your reasons for getting
an abortion, to anyone,
period.
oh i know i just
wanted to avoid any questions that may
have risen and possibly sidetracked my
goal here. i'm a nursing student - i'm
very thorough, heh.
Quote:
The second is
that your bpd/o meds may not react well
with anesthetic. You need to find out
from your doctor and s/he will take into
account your dosage and the exact nature
of the medication. If you are on
anti-depressants, this is very important.
If you are on antipsychotics, it's also
very, very important. Drug interactions
could cause a spiraling one way or the
other or other adverse
reactions.
yeah, i made sure to address that with him
and he did not seem concerned, probably
because it is only a nerve block i
suppose.
Quote:
The other one is
that, and maybe Carifairy knows more, I
have read that general anesthesia is the
root cause of abortion-related serious
issues. Any surgery that requires general
has an elevated risk due to the nature of
the anesthestic. I would stick to local.
It is not so painful as it is an...well,
odd sensation.
Best wishes!
yes general anesthesia would be the root
cause of serious abortion-related
complications due to the fact that
abortion itself is a low-risk procedure so
there's not a whole lot that can go wrong
until you throw general anesthesia into
the mix.
as we all know, general anesthesia is one
of those things that works fine most of
the time but also causes things to "go to
hell in a handbasket" a small percentage
of the time.
so naturally, if there is going to be a
serious complication with an abortion -
you can bet its probably due to general
anesthesia.
i've had it enough times to know that i'm
not scared of it; the only thing i hate
about it is waking up with the "shakes"
and feeling like an ice cube. but i'll
take that over having to 'experience' the
procedure, any day of the week.
listen, i just wanna say thank you to you
and all of you ladies here today. you guys
are so great. just talking things out with
you all is a great way to prepare for this
and such a learning experience. this is
better than any physician's consultation
(well i mean outside of the technical
medicinal info which they really dont go
into detail with you anyways.)
i hope they pay you for this because if
they dont, they should!
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Re: Abortion Scheduled For Tuesday Need Questions Answered a Posted: 08-26-07 15:52pm
think4yourself
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
I'm a little late on the fly
for this, but I just wanted to say a
couple things....one is that you don't
have to justify your reasons for getting
an abortion, to anyone,
period.
oh i know i just
wanted to avoid any questions that may
have risen and possibly sidetracked my
goal here. i'm a nursing student - i'm
very thorough, heh.
Quote:
The second is
that your bpd/o meds may not react well
with anesthetic. You need to find out
from your doctor and s/he will take into
account your dosage and the exact nature
of the medication. If you are on
anti-depressants, this is very important.
If you are on antipsychotics, it's also
very, very important. Drug interactions
could cause a spiraling one way or the
other or other adverse
reactions.
yeah, i made sure to address that with him
and he did not seem concerned, probably
because it is only a nerve block i
suppose.
Quote:
The other one is
that, and maybe Carifairy knows more, I
have read that general anesthesia is the
root cause of abortion-related serious
issues. Any surgery that requires general
has an elevated risk due to the nature of
the anesthestic. I would stick to local.
It is not so painful as it is an...well,
odd sensation.
Best wishes!
yes general anesthesia would be the root
cause of serious abortion-related
complications due to the fact that
abortion itself is a low-risk procedure so
there's not a whole lot that can go wrong
until you throw general anesthesia into
the mix.
as we all know, general anesthesia is one
of those things that works fine most of
the time but also causes things to "go to
hell in a handbasket" a small percentage
of the time.
so naturally, if there is going to be a
serious complication with an abortion -
you can bet its probably due to general
anesthesia.
i've had it enough times to know that i'm
not scared of it; the only thing i hate
about it is waking up with the "shakes"
and feeling like an ice cube. but i'll
take that over having to 'experience' the
procedure, any day of the week.
listen, i just wanna say thank you to you
and all of you ladies here today. you guys
are so great. just talking things out with
you all is a great way to prepare for this
and such a learning experience. this is
better than any physician's consultation
(well i mean outside of the technical
medicinal info which they really dont go
into detail with you anyways.)
i hope they pay you for this because if
they dont, they should!
I'm glad that you feel that way. I'll be
happy to send ehealth my paypal account if
they want.
Can I ask why you would choose to do
general even though you know it's risks?
If you are worried about 'experiencing'
the procedure...and I know this may not
come off very well to anyone, but I gotta
ask... maybe more thought is needed before
you do it?
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I just wanted to wish you well and hope
everything is done soon for your sake.
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think4yourself
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Re: Abortion Scheduled For Tuesday Need Questions Answered a Posted: 08-26-07 18:39pm
Birch
wrote:
I'm glad that you feel that
way. I'll be happy to send ehealth my
paypal account if they want.
Can I ask why you would choose to do
general even though you know it's risks?
If you are worried about 'experiencing'
the procedure...and I know this may not
come off very well to anyone, but I gotta
ask... maybe more thought is needed before
you do it?
oh no, i dont mind you asking....the
reason i would do it regardless of the
risks involved is because to me:
general anesthesia poses that risk no
matter what kind of surgery is performed.
i'm better with examples so let me explain
like this:
in my mind, that risk is the same
as the risk you take by driving on the
interstate Dec 23rd/24th. like surgery,
its not something you do very often,
rarely if ever. but if you do, you do so
knowing that you'll most likely get to
your destination just fine. however you
also know there is that possibility you
and your whole family could die from a
head on collision with a drunk driver.
(sorry, but my mom has been a medic for
20 years so i grew up hearing these kinds
of stories. yes, i know that could happen
any day of the week but the odds are
slightly greater due to the number of
travelers, impatient shoppers driving,
& holiday parties = more drunk
drivers.)
personally, i'd rather go under general
anesthesia than get on the interstate
during the holidays, or any day for that
matter.
as for not wanting to 'experiencing the
procedure':
i simply mean, i already loathe going to
the gyno and lying on my back with my legs
open, exposing myself for strangers to
look at and dig into. so i'm sure that i
will like this even less due to the
emotions that will be tied into this
event. going under general anesthesia
would spare me this discomfort and the
painful memory of having to witness what
would have been a beautiful child sucked
out of me.
i cant imagine how anyone having an
abortion could do so without some degree
of emotion. so i dont see how this would
require more thought.
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Posted: 08-26-07 18:46pm
BIRCH, AND think4yourself.
IV sedation is IV sedation, NOT GENERAL
ANESTHESIA.
It is a good powerful narcotic medication,
along with another medication to make you
relax.
GENERAL and IV sedation are different.
I personally have always chosen IV
sedation.
Your breathing will be intact, and you
will be in a "high state", very floaty.
You may feel like you were alseep and have
no memory, but you would not be under GA.
