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Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-30-07 13:09pm
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I find it interesting that the actual
definition of abortion is this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions.
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Re: Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-30-07 13:13pm
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| futureshock
wrote: | I find it interesting that
the actual definition of abortion is
this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions. |
yes abortions are not preformed past a
certain stage of the fetus unless its an
illigal abortion
they would not preform an abortion on a
woman who was 30 weeks pregnant
i dont see the confusing part at all?
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Posted: 08-30-07 13:26pm
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If there were fetal deformities, they can
and do make exceptions for termination of
a pregnancy at 30 weeks.
You cannot have one 'just because' though,
because you need a 'referral' for a later
term abortion.
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Re: Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-30-07 14:21pm
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| the_girlfreind
wrote: | | futureshock
wrote: | I find it interesting that
the actual definition of abortion is
this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions. |
yes abortions are not preformed past a
certain stage of the fetus unless its an
illigal abortion
they would not preform an abortion on a
woman who was 30 weeks pregnant
i dont see the confusing part at
all? |
Ever hear of George Tiller? Do a search
of him. Very late term abortions is all
he does. He is a sick sick man.
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Posted: 08-30-07 14:26pm
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| Dr. Tiller's Website
wrote: | At Women's Health Care
Services, we specialize in "late" abortion
care. We are able to perform elective
abortions to the time in the pregnancy
when the fetus is viable. Viability is not
a set point in time. Viability is
determined by the attending physician and
is based on sonogram results, physical
examination and last menstrual period date
(if known). Our telephone counselors will
ask you a number of medical questions to
determine if you are eligible for an
elective abortion. If you have visited
another clinic or physician, we will ask
for the results from a recent ultrasound.
Kansas law allows for post-viability
abortion procedures when continuing the
pregnancy is detrimental to the pregnant woman's
health. Each person's circumstances
are reviewed on a case-by-base basis.
Please call so that we can discuss
admission criteria with
you. |
http://www.drtiller.com/
He does late abortions if the fetus is
deformed or if the mother's life is in
danger. It's not for fun or giggles.
Saving the mother's life makes him sick?
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Re: Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-30-07 14:27pm
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| milletics
wrote: | | the_girlfreind
wrote: | | futureshock
wrote: | I find it interesting that
the actual definition of abortion is
this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions. |
yes abortions are not preformed past a
certain stage of the fetus unless its an
illigal abortion
they would not preform an abortion on a
woman who was 30 weeks pregnant
i dont see the confusing part at
all? |
Ever hear of George Tiller? Do a search
of him. Very late term abortions is all
he does. He is a sick sick
man. |
http://en.wikipedia.o
rg/wiki/George_Tiller
youre right
thats creepy
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Posted: 08-30-07 14:39pm
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doctors do late abortions if its
absolutely neccesary.... ie after 30 weeks
etc, we found out at 30 weeks that
something was def going to be wrong with
our baby and were told that terminating
was a big option to us....
we could not do that to our baby
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Posted: 08-30-07 14:41pm
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i thought only abortions past 26 weeks
could be done if they were medical
abortions and there was a problem with the
baby or the mother was at risk?
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Posted: 08-30-07 14:44pm
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i dont know how they would do it or
anything like that all i know is that we
were offered to terminate because of a
prob with the baby.. i was shocked that at
30 weeks the doctor would even suggest it
especially when they dont know 100% whats
wrong
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Posted: 08-30-07 14:51pm
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| stacybaby
wrote: | | i dont know how they would
do it or anything like that all i know is
that we were offered to terminate because
of a prob with the baby.. i was shocked
that at 30 weeks the doctor would even
suggest it especially when they dont know
100% whats
wrong |
yeah 
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Posted: 08-30-07 15:03pm
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| stacybaby
wrote: | | i dont know how they would
do it or anything like that all i know is
that we were offered to terminate because
of a prob with the baby.. i was shocked
that at 30 weeks the doctor would even
suggest it especially when they dont know
100% whats
wrong |
How are you doing? Did you find out any
more information? I keep thinking about
you.
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Posted: 08-30-07 15:20pm
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But, the definition of abortion means that
terminating a pregnancy after vialility is
not abortion.
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Posted: 08-30-07 15:29pm
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Because abortions at 24+ weeks are most
often done for fetal deformity, these were
wanted pregnancies that went terribly
wrong.
THIS is how they terminate those
pregnancies.
They inject digoxin into the fetal heart
to euthanize the fetus, THEN they induce
labor with pitocin, much like with
induction due to an overdue baby.
The baby is born, but it would be a
stillbirth.
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Posted: 08-30-07 15:31pm
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It is abortion. The definition needs to
re-written obviously. And I think it was
also pointed out that Dr. Miller performs
every abortion on a case by case standard
and goes by the law of the state in that
every person mus have a valid reason
proving that continuing with the pregnancy
will be detrimental to the woman's health.
If you want to be part of a debate please
do not pick and choose which arguments you
will respond to. Read and respond to
valid arguments if you want to seem
credible.
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Posted: 08-30-07 16:00pm
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abortion is legal from after
24 weeks to birth (here) if there is
maternal health or foetal abnormality
problems - it is still an abortion. This
is the legal stance, definitions change
between person/dictionary/reference but a
termination at 30 weeks is still an
abortion.
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Re: Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-30-07 22:38pm
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| futureshock
wrote: | I find it interesting that
the actual definition of abortion is
this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions. |
True; although that may be the definition
of a "lawful" abortion, it's clearly not
the correct definition for abortion in
general. Consider too that miscarriage
counts as a natural abortion.
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Posted: 08-31-07 01:45am
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| Carifairy
wrote: | Because abortions at 24+
weeks are most often done for fetal
deformity, these were wanted pregnancies
that went terribly wrong.
THIS is how they terminate those
pregnancies.
They inject digoxin into the fetal heart
to euthanize the fetus, THEN they induce
labor with pitocin, much like with
induction due to an overdue baby.
The baby is born, but it would be a
stillbirth. |
geee whizzz i didnt realise thats how it
would be dont to late terminations
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Re: Definition of Abortion
Posted: 08-31-07 11:20am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | futureshock
wrote: | I find it interesting that
the actual definition of abortion is
this:
"medical termination of a pregnancy before
the fetus has developed enough to survive
outside the uterus."
Most definitions I've read say this or
something almost exactly the same. Can
anyone see the confusing part?
P.S. It has to do with late term
abortions. |
True; although that may be the definition
of a "lawful" abortion, it's clearly not
the correct definition for abortion in
general. Consider too that miscarriage
counts as a natural
abortion. |
Yes, you are correct. But miscarriage
carries the exact same definition as
abortion, in terms of the timing. A
miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion, and
a spontaneous abortion is a non-medical
ending (like nature caused it or some
other non-purposeful reason) of a
pregnancy before viability. After that is
is a premature birth.
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Posted: 09-02-07 16:31pm
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*sighs* Do I really need to repost the
links to a web site showing the kinds of
fetal abnormalities which would be subject
to post viability abortion??
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Posted: 09-02-07 20:53pm
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Probably would open a few eyes/minds.
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