balkan riot
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Why Does the West Accept Homosexuality?
Posted: 09-07-07 15:01pm
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Why does the West accept homosexuality
like this? Like it`s something natural,
cause let me tell you something, it
isn`t.
It shouldn`t be banned either, cause every
man/woman has the right to chose his/hers
way of life. But why do you encourage
it???
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-11-07 10:12am
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A. I moved this topic since it in no way
belongs on the GLBT relationship forms. It
is clearly a topic meant for debate, not
one supporting or lending supportive
advice to people in a GLBT relationship.
B. You're wrong. On so many levels. I
don't want to have to quote the dozens and
more species of animals that participate
in homosexual relations. Can't get much
more natural that nature doing it. And
considering we are animals and thus, part
of nature, the things we do ARE natural.
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Birch
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Re: Why Does the West Accept Homosexuality?
Posted: 09-11-07 10:13am
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| balkan riot
wrote: | Why does the West accept
homosexuality like this? Like it`s
something natural, cause let me tell you
something, it isn`t.
It shouldn`t be banned either, cause every
man/woman has the right to chose his/hers
way of life. But why do you encourage
it??? |
I don't know what "acceptance" means to
you exactly, but it is certainly not
accepted as I understand acceptance to
mean where I live.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-11-07 10:54am
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I personally would encourage anyone who
felt they were homosexual because they
would need help and support against people
like you who try and tell them their
feelings are unnatural and wrong.
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Posted: 09-11-07 11:55am
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I am bisexual and i am proud. Being
bisexual or homosexual is nothing to be
ashamed of it's just a different way of
life. people have different religions and
different opinions so why not differnt
sexualitys?
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 09-11-07 14:27pm
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i'd totally do Kat Von D if the
opportunity arose lol.
^_^
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agathe
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Posted: 09-11-07 14:42pm
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Yeah but, is nature a good thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering.
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Re: Why Does the West Accept Homosexuality?
Posted: 09-11-07 15:17pm
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| balkan riot
wrote: | Why does the West accept
homosexuality like this? Like it`s
something natural, cause let me tell you
something, it isn`t.
It shouldn`t be banned either, cause every
man/woman has the right to chose his/hers
way of life. But why do you encourage
it??? |
The west, for the most part, does not
accept it. Which is a shame, because
homosexuals are just like anyone else.
they laugh, cry, love and die just like
everyone else.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-11-07 17:55pm
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| agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-11-07 22:32pm
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I think homosexuality is good.
Because I like anything with the word
'sexuality' in it....
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Jules
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Posted: 09-12-07 07:26am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
Beautifully said
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Re: Why Does the West Accept Homosexuality?
Posted: 09-12-07 08:10am
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| balkan riot
wrote: | Why does the West accept
homosexuality like this? Like it`s
something natural, cause let me tell you
something, it isn`t.
It shouldn`t be banned either, cause every
man/woman has the right to chose his/hers
way of life. But why do you encourage
it??? |
Homosexuality isn't encouraged it simply is
accepted because everyone is entitled to
be true to themselves and how they feel.
Even said, it isn't as widley accepted
(unfortunately) as you would seem to
think.
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 09-12-07 08:52am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
Couldn't put it better myslef1 very well
said
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milletics
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Posted: 09-13-07 08:13am
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| Eiri
wrote: | A. I moved this topic since
it in no way belongs on the GLBT
relationship forms. It is clearly a topic
meant for debate, not one supporting or
lending supportive advice to people in a
GLBT relationship.
B. You're wrong. On so many levels. I
don't want to have to quote the dozens and
more species of animals that participate
in homosexual relations. Can't get much
more natural that nature doing it. And
considering we are animals and thus, part
of nature, the things we do ARE
natural. |
Yes but some animals eat their own feces.
Doesnt make it right or "natural" to do
that too.
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milletics
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Posted: 09-13-07 08:20am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
Could say the same thing about killing a
fellow human.(my dog killed a mouse once
and did it just to kill it. So thats
natural)
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Birch
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Posted: 09-13-07 09:07am
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I think human beings are well beyond the
scope of "natural" because there is very
little we did that is "natural".
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-13-07 09:12am
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| milletics
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | A. I moved this topic since
it in no way belongs on the GLBT
relationship forms. It is clearly a topic
meant for debate, not one supporting or
lending supportive advice to people in a
GLBT relationship.
B. You're wrong. On so many levels. I
don't want to have to quote the dozens and
more species of animals that participate
in homosexual relations. Can't get much
more natural that nature doing it. And
considering we are animals and thus, part
of nature, the things we do ARE
natural. |
Yes but some animals eat their own feces.
Doesnt make it right or "natural" to do
that too. |
If an animal does it, then it's
automatically "natural". You don't seem to
get that concept. An animal is created by
nature. Humans are animals.
Is eating poo "gross"? Yes, but gross is
again a human construct. I'm pretty sure
there's actually a nutritional benefit to
consuming feces especially during times of
famine.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-13-07 09:14am
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| milletics
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
Could say the same thing about killing a
fellow human.(my dog killed a mouse once
and did it just to kill it. So thats
natural) |
Yes you could. Conquering male lions often
kill off the cubs of a pride to cause the
females to go in to estrus so he can
impregnate them with his own DNA.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-13-07 09:18am
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As humans, products of nature, it is
"natural" for us to learn. That is our
evolutionary advantage. Some animals have
claws, some have camoflauge. We have
larger brains.
Is it beneficial to our environment to
pollute? No. But there are animals and
plants that "destroy" their own niches as
well. If a winding tree vine grew
unchecked, it would kill every tree in the
forest.
The "problem" is that humans do not
currently have a predator to keep us in
check. Disease has tried its best but our
brains have allowed us to adapt to that as
well.
Now, as sentient creatures we are aware of
all of this. Unlike a winding vine that
needs a predator to halt its progress, we
are smart enough to do it ourselves.
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milletics
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Posted: 09-13-07 09:41am
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| Eiri
wrote: | As humans, products of
nature, it is "natural" for us to learn.
That is our evolutionary advantage. Some
animals have claws, some have camoflauge.
We have larger brains.
Is it beneficial to our environment to
pollute? No. But there are animals and
plants that "destroy" their own niches as
well. If a winding tree vine grew
unchecked, it would kill every tree in the
forest.
The "problem" is that humans do not
currently have a predator to keep us in
check. Disease has tried its best but our
brains have allowed us to adapt to that as
well.
Now, as sentient creatures we are aware of
all of this. Unlike a winding vine that
needs a predator to halt its progress, we
are smart enough to do it ourselves. |
Thats the difference. I say God is my God
and created us and you think nature is.
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