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Posted: 10-09-07 21:01pm
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| sillysallie1990
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wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
bravo that was the best! the way you
worded it was
amazing |
Thanks! ^^ 
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Posted: 10-09-07 21:02pm
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| nightangel73
wrote: | | sillysallie1990
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | agathe
wrote: | Yeah but, is nature a good
thing?
Natural things good?
Death is natural. And so is immense
suffering. |
Good and bad are ethics, and ethics cannot
be applied to nature.
A wolf is not bad for eating a deer.
A storm is not bad for destroying a town.
So, homosexulaity as a natural thing,
cannot be good or bad. Sexuality as nature
knows it is not good or bad.
It simply IS. |
bravo that was the best! the way you
worded it was
amazing |
and there you are again comparing animals
who are not conscious of what they are
doing with humans who consciously do
things.. |
Humans are animals.
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Posted: 10-09-07 21:03pm
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| nightangel73
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God-Jesus-Holy Ghost All the three are
1. You can use any of the three and are
refering to the same
thing. |
Or you can be like me and refer to Jesus
aka the HUMAN MALE ANIMAL MAMMAL. He was a
great dude with some awesome ideas. He got
killed for those ideas, and that sucks.
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Posted: 10-10-07 06:11am
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I 100% agree with you on the above! ^^
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Posted: 10-10-07 09:22am
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Jesus was an animal, rar!
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Posted: 10-10-07 13:07pm
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Jesus was a social activist. I wish more
people would realize that.
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Posted: 10-10-07 13:28pm
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and so is the Catholic church
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Posted: 10-11-07 01:40am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | milletics
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wrote: | A. I moved this topic since
it in no way belongs on the GLBT
relationship forms. It is clearly a topic
meant for debate, not one supporting or
lending supportive advice to people in a
GLBT relationship.
B. You're wrong. On so many levels. I
don't want to have to quote the dozens and
more species of animals that participate
in homosexual relations. Can't get much
more natural that nature doing it. And
considering we are animals and thus, part
of nature, the things we do ARE
natural. |
Yes but some animals eat their own feces.
Doesnt make it right or "natural" to do
that too. |
If an animal does it, then it's
automatically "natural". You don't seem to
get that concept. An animal is created by
nature. Humans are animals.
Is eating poo "gross"? Yes, but gross is
again a human construct. I'm pretty sure
there's actually a nutritional benefit to
consuming feces especially during times of
famine. |
Having bread dogs for a while. A mother
dog will lick there pup to get them to go
to the bathroom then consume the waste.
While this is discusting, it keeps the
puppies from being surrounded in there own
fecies. Without the stimulatiojn from the
mothers tongue, the puppies wouldnt
actually go to the bathroom on there own.
Just a bit of information about eating
fecies as apparently not being "Natural"
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Posted: 10-11-07 07:11am
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| Gu£st
wrote: | | and so is the Catholic
church |
So is the Catholic church what?
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Posted: 10-11-07 07:24am
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Why would homosexuality be immoral? Like
many of todays issues it has actually been
around for a very long time; it just isn't
whispered about in adult only discussions
and gossip hour. Seriously; does anyone
really think that homosexuality is new?its
like womens rights; it took our societies
a long while to finally get over the fact
that women weren't just property and brood
mares; the only reason I can think of for
being offended by whom someone else is
sleeping with is jealousy and that is poor
motivation for bias and predjudice.
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Posted: 10-11-07 07:25am
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Posted: 10-11-07 09:28am
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| silentbear777
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | milletics
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | A. I moved this topic since
it in no way belongs on the GLBT
relationship forms. It is clearly a topic
meant for debate, not one supporting or
lending supportive advice to people in a
GLBT relationship.
B. You're wrong. On so many levels. I
don't want to have to quote the dozens and
more species of animals that participate
in homosexual relations. Can't get much
more natural that nature doing it. And
considering we are animals and thus, part
of nature, the things we do ARE
natural. |
Yes but some animals eat their own feces.
Doesnt make it right or "natural" to do
that too. |
If an animal does it, then it's
automatically "natural". You don't seem to
get that concept. An animal is created by
nature. Humans are animals.
Is eating poo "gross"? Yes, but gross is
again a human construct. I'm pretty sure
there's actually a nutritional benefit to
consuming feces especially during times of
famine. |
Having bread dogs for a while. A mother
dog will lick there pup to get them to go
to the bathroom then consume the waste.
While this is discusting, it keeps the
puppies from being surrounded in there own
fecies. Without the stimulatiojn from the
mothers tongue, the puppies wouldnt
actually go to the bathroom on there own.
Just a bit of information about eating
fecies as apparently not being
"Natural" |
I had completely forgotten about that
fact! I haven't bred dogs myself, but I
know a lot of random information, and
that's one of them! See? Natural and
beneficial!
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Posted: 10-11-07 12:35pm
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I meant a social activist as in, Jesus
fought for the rights of
minorities/oppressed groups.
Like like the poor, women, slaves,
children, homosexuals....
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Posted: 10-11-07 16:40pm
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The Church is socially actvie and has
elements of being hippy.
We fight for the rights of the unborn
child, the poor, the women, slaves
children and homosexuals and of course we
are big on the whole love of god given to
us freely, "free love"
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Posted: 10-11-07 18:10pm
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so you say the church fights for rights..I
say bs. It wants conformity and control
not individual rights.
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Posted: 10-11-07 18:36pm
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| sillyakchick
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meblonde! |
Thanks sillyakchick.. 
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Posted: 10-11-07 19:42pm
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| Jincks013
wrote: | | so you say the church fights
for rights..I say bs. It wants conformity
and control not individual
rights. |
The church does not want control. I go to
church on my free will and follow the
teachings on my own free will too. They
have never tried to control me or forced
me to do anything. They only talk about
what Jesus teached. Like to love one
another. Of course if you don't go to
church and see for yourself what they talk
about I guess one can come up with
delusional facts of the church wanting to
control you.
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Posted: 10-11-07 23:06pm
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Right. It tells you what you can say; what
you can do; when to eat certain things;
which days you are allowed to work; na..
not control at all.. you just pwn'd
yourself.
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Posted: 10-12-07 03:55am
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"so you say the church fights for
rights..I say bs. It wants conformity and
control not individual rights."
Of course the church dosnt want individual
rights, Individual rights are a dangerous
concept and leads to violation of rights
of others, The Church fights for rights of
people as a whole what is known as "Human
Rights" in human rights some individual
rights are negated in order that the human
race benefits, individual rights concerns
the individual and not the human race as a
whole.
The church does not want conformity and
control that is a fallacy, but what it
does want you will probably consider it
along the same lines as conformity and
control but it is different and that is
"obediance" this obediance is not forced
on anyone, people are requested to be
obediant but the church does not and
really could not force them, we have free
will, we submit to the church not for fear
or co-errsion but love, now that maybe
hard for you to believe but it is true.
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