How You Relate to Dogma

I can relate to this one. I am seeing it in the quit smoking cessation world.

People have been so bombarded from the pharmecutical companies that quitting smoking is one of the hardest things to do. People trying to quit now believe that you have to me superhuman to quit cold turkey.

The truth is. Breaking the physical addiction plays the smallest part in quitting, but the pharmecutical companies have convinced people that the physical part of quitting plays a much larger part than it really is.

Also the truth is. Why try to break an addiction to nicotine by using nicotine. Yes, I have heard the hand to mouth habit blah blah blah, but it is much harder to reinforce your quit while at the same time reinforcing the need for nicotine.

Have people quit with NRT's? Yes they have, but they did so in spite of them and good for them for doing it, but they did make it harder on themsevles. Don't belive that NRT's improve a person's chances by double. Those numbers are all slants and misrepresented.

Most people in the world quit cold turkey, but convincing a person that that is true is very hard.

If you ask just about any person that smokes if they are going to quit. They'll most likely say that yes they need to quit and then add that they'll need to get some patches or gum to do it.

It is actually the brainwashing of smoking that makes it hard to quit. There are some simple physical mechanics that if understood will show the smoker that they gave undue credit to cigarettes.

It really isn't hard to quit smoking. It is hard to quit believing that cigarettes do something for you.

and speaking of believing things since birth. I saw a documentary on North Korea.

Unbelievable the brainwashing in that country. It is like no other.


Eric



Eric

wrong topic??

No it's the right topic. It might not be dogmatic, but more and more people are becoming brainwashed into thinking that you have to use medication to quit. Nrt's or nicotine replacement therapy. The truth though is that people have been quitting for years just by stopping smoking.

Now days though, smokers believe that you have to be superhuman to quit smoking by simply stopping smoking. Why do you think that is? It is because the pharmecutical companies have spent millions of dollars a year to advertise this. Look around at TV or magazines and you'll see this information being spread every day.

This is how things become the "truth" so to speak.

Ask a person who is one of the most famous indian girls in history and most likely they'll say Pocahontas.

Why? because they have heard the story of Pocahontas. But most people don't know that's not her real name.

Pocahontas actually is a nickname meaning spoiled child. Her real name was Matoaka. I believe that's right. But we believe without a doubt that her name was Pocahontas.


Eric

**still doesn't understand what smoking has to do with ~Blind Belief~**

Kind've like alcoholism- the US is the only country where abstinence is the only solution.....

QUOTE" Because smokers have been led to blindly believe that Quitting is the hardest thing to do, so they accept this concept without question." UNQUOTE

Exactly! Most smokers want to quit smoking, but if you ask them why then they just don't quit. They will likely tell you it is too hard or that they are too addicted.

Most smokers have tried to quit at least a few times and obviously without success if they are still smoking.

Then on top of that, you have commercials and ads from the pharmecutical companies telling them that quitting smoking is one of the hardest things that they'll ever do.

Well crap, they already have their own past failures to solidify that belief. Then you have "so callled experts" validating that belief by telling smokers that you most likely will fail at quitting smoking unless you use our product.

What is a smoker supposed to think? I used to be caught in this trap myself. I know the fear that is instilled in smokers trying to quit.

It wasn't until someone taught me about nicotine adiction and the lies that it tells that I realized. It wasn't quitting smoking that was hard. It was the fact that I kept believing that a cigarette did something for me that was hard. As soon as I erased those misconceptions. Quitting became quite easy.

We always hear that nicotine is as addictive as heroin. We have all probalby heard about the horrors of heroin withdrawal. So what does a smoker think. Nicotine is as addictive a heroin. So what do you think that their preconceived notion is going to be? That withdrawal from nicotine is just as bad as heroin.

Nothing is farther from the truth. Nicotine withdrawal is actually very mild. There are some physical reactions that happen,BUT whne you take the proper steps, you can vitually eliminate them.

Within 3 days nicotine is out of the bloodstream. This is when withdrawal peaks and then declines. Again it is not that dramatic. It is the smoker's own fears tht creates such an anxiety.

Within 10 to 14 days all physical withdrawal stops. If you use an NRT though and use it according to instructions. All physical withdrawal stops at about 3 and a 1/2 months.

But convincing a smoker that they don't need "medication" and that using NRt's might actually work against them is quite an uphill battle.

Why? Becasue they have been brainwshed into blindly believing that they cannot quit smoking without them.


Eric

thanks Eiri I'll remember next time.


Eric

No prob! I've explained it enough times that I'm good at it

Fine, I'll start for you.
Question: But Uselessness, why do ships sink into the horizon?
My response:
Read this link: http://www.sacred- texts.com/earth/za/za32.htm
How many of you can honestly say they can refute that scientifically?

I don't get it.

That piece of sacred texts was about perspective, was it not? Like when artists are drawing something that they want to make look far away?

Why are we supposed to refute that scientifically?

Am I missing something here??

"Truth is subjectivity; if you believe it, it is true for you. -Nietzsche "

I guess Jews were not person's - (Hitler was a believer in the phiosophy of Nietzsche)

If a man believes women are not person's does that make it true?

If the Ku Klux caln believes Black people arenot persons does that make it true?

and if the government believes unborn children are not persons does that make it true?

Truth is objective not subjective. both concepts of truth has a reason and the reason for objective of truth is to benefit all mankind, subjective truth is to benefit the individual. One is self serving, the other is serving others. you may not like the truth, often the truth is hard but we must be abliging to the truth for the benefit of mankind, we have to sacrafice that which is in us that is contrary to the objective truth so that others will benefit, do not be like the corrupt politican but strive to do what is right.

So its self delusion then?

Truth is subjective. To you, Guest, God is real, and the truth. To me, he is not, and not the truth. Both of us believe strongly that we are right and aren't about to change our opinions.

So truth is subjective.