Thank you to all of you for all of your
postings. I experienced this oily
orange discharge for the first time this
morning I was terrified thinking about all
the possible causes and supremely relieved
when I read this forum - indeed, I ate
butterfish for the first time on thursday
night. This morning (saturday), my
boyfriend and I were looking at pictures
on the computer together. I was sitting
on his lap. I got up and noticed a
large orange stain I left behind on his
shorts. This was embarrassing. But
even more so when I realized it I had to
tell him it was coming from my rectum!
Since this morning, with no forewarning or
signs of abdominal pain, orange oily
discharge has been leaking out - staining
whatever it touches. It truly has the
consistency of oil on the skin and toilet
paper and smells like car or mineral oil.
When it hits cold water, it hardens
just like liquid wax does when it cools.
If you are reading this, you may already
know how bizarre this can all be for a
first-timer. I hope it ends soon :)
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hjb13
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1 Location: NJ
Oily Orange Discharge Posted: 07-09-05 18:00pm
Thank god for the internet and this forum.
I too was freaking out until my
girlfriend found this ehealth forum. I
had no idea what was happening. I didn't
feel sick, just a little extra gassy.
Next thing I know my girlfriend is
pointing to a yellowish-orange stain on
the back of my shorts and asking what it
was.
I thought it was just diarrhea, but there
really was no feces and I no feeling of
anything leaving my body. Only what
eventually looked like olive oil leaking
out of my rectum. It was the color of an
optic yellow tennis ball, had a very
slight mineral smell, glistened in the
light and left an oil slick on the water
in the bowl.
Turns out that I tried escolar (a fish) at
a new restaurant last sat. Night. By
sun. Afternoon, the embarrasing leaking
had begun. I tried taking 2 immodium ad
and a couple of gulps of pepto-bismal, to
no avail. I wound up taking 2 more
immodium ad and a few more gulps of
pepto-bismal the next morning, again
without any improvement.
By mon. Night (48 hours after eating the
fish) I was finally back to normal. Very
strange. My girlfriend tried a bite of
my fish that night but had no symptoms.
Does anyone know if there are any longer
term effects from eating this fish? Or
if a tolerance builds up? The fish was
delicious, and i'd love to find a way to
continue eating it--without the
consequences, of course.
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wing
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Australia
That Alarming Orange Posted: 07-16-05 04:37am
This resource must be the best on the web!
We have just returned from a holiday in
bali with my daughter experiencing the
distressing and quite bizarre symptoms
described by so many others in this
thread.
My search for help elsewhere on the web
was of little comfort: general advice
about scans, samples and tests: and yet I
was so sure that this very bright, orange
oil was not produced by the human body,
but must have been some sort of undigested
substance passing through: the "leakage"
effect had me totally beaten - what was
going on!! And here were the answers -
thank heavens! And yes, she and another
girl in our travelling party enjoyed
several serves of our hotel's fish and
chips for lunch, and both had the same
symptoms: this was a food not shared by
the adults, none of whom experienced this
unpleasant situation. I am sure it was
the fish being discussed here.
Thanks for the comfort and information: a
tip (not great fun for kids or guys, but
practical) a very thin sanitary pad or
panty liner helps mop up the oil until the
process finally ends - change regularly.
At least it saves the undies! I have
also had some success with removing the
stains from my child's cotton undies in
very hot water with a bleaching or stain
removal agent, so at least give it a try
if you have had staining occur. I imagine
women's undies in synthetic fabric would
be a lost cause.
Ps: after 24 hours of oil leakage things
seem to be settling down. Fish was last
consumed 52 hours ago, thus about 48 hours
from consumption to symptoms. The oil
started to come out gradually, and then
increased substantially after about 6
hours or so.
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rbbrooklyn
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Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 1
Beware White Tuna Posted: 07-18-05 15:01pm
I got hit with the oil slick this am.
Out of the blue, standing in the kitchen
making breakfast. Boy, was I worried and
embarrassed! My fiancee found this site,
and I am relieved to find out I am not
alone. I spoke to my doctor (a gi guy,
no less), who had no idea about the
symptoms and their relation to eating
fish. In my case, I was served a "white
tuna" (another name for escolar) special
at a vietnamese restaurant on saturday,
and was showing symptoms by monday
morning. Mercifully it seems to be
passing only 5-6 hours later. No
discomfort has been associated with the
episode.
I've found a few things on-line since.
Escolar (aka "oilfish") contains something
called gempylotoxin which the fda says
causes diarrhea. I even found a
disclaimer on a website selling the stuff.
I'm pretty annoyed that the restaurant
did not inform me of this before selling
me the dish!
Here's another interesting set of postings
related to the fish, from the culinary
ranks:
My dad was having this exact problem all
day today. And we couldn't figure out
what was going on. He came out of the
bathroom this morning complaining of an
oily discharge. By mid-day, he was
"leaking" this orange fluid through his
trousers. He was *so* embarrassed.
Nothing like this had ever happened to him
before. I plugged his symptoms into
google the whole day, only to come up with
things like liver malfunction, accute
pancreitis, malabsorption. . . We
even made arrangements to see his doctor,
possibly for another liver function test
(he has had this done only a few months
ago, and it came back clean.). I re-read
through the lists of side-effects for his
prescription medications-- none of which
showed symptoms of this nature.
My dad ate orange roughy in a huge bowl of
seafood stew about a day and a half ago;
i'm convinced that some of the fish was
this escolar that all of you are talking
about. It's a shame, too, because he's
been trying so hard to get more omega-3 by
eathing more fish lately.
I'm not in any way advocating that
symptoms like this should automatically be
dismissed as seafood-related; we will take
my dad to the doctor if it persists (he's
due for a full colonoscopy in about 2
weeks, too.). But given his record of
medical checkups, this is it.
It's 3 am on a monday and I want to thank
everyone on this message thread for
sharing their experience, no matter how
embarrassing. Especially those who
shared a "timeline" of when the fish was
consumed. It seems no one is alone with
any health problem.
Now, if I can find a detergent that will
get the orange out of clothing. . .
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stained
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 2
Darn That Tastey Fish Posted: 08-29-05 07:32am
Thanks everyone for your help. 3 pairs
of underwear, 2 pants, one computer chair,
1 sick day, and 1 embarassing moment at
the home depot later, I finally know
what's going on. I also had what I was
calling escobar 2 days ago with my
girlfriend. She did not have the
symptoms til the next day which really
confused me and led me to think that it
was because I was the only one who ate the
skin. Well, it's nice to know that i'm
not melting from the inside out anymore.
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stained
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 2
Solutions? Posted: 08-29-05 07:42am
Being that i'm in my second day of
symptoms now with apparently 2 to 4 more
days....Has anyone come up with a creative
solution for not having an incident while
at work? Unfortunately like others, I
have also seen times where I did not even
know there would be a leak until it was
too late. Unfortunately again, I work in
a location where i'm doing tech support
and can't leave my desk for extended
periods of time while on the phone. If
anyone has come up with something good,
please pass it on. Thanks.
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sterneesh
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Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Florida
Stained Relationship... Posted: 10-18-05 14:56pm
I took my client out to a local
fashionable restaurant of his choice
yesterday. Since he was the guest of
honor I let him choose the entre.
It was escolar.
This is a large account I have been trying
to land for over 2 months. Unfortunately
I had to leave the office early today. I
was suppose to follow up with a phone call
to confirm our next appointment. Instead
I had to drive home early sitting on a
stack of newspapers.
I was overcome with a warm sensation while
sitting at my desk. When I stood up I
was dripping a bright orange oil.
Since I am about to turn 40 I just figured
this must be normal. Luckily I found
this message board! My thanks to
everyone for sharing their stories and
information.
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pharmtech
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 1
Posted: 10-29-05 11:54am
As far as I can tell the leakages comes
from a fatty acid that cannot be absorbed
in the colon. I dont eat fish but I found
that after eating deep fried chicken (once
in the form of chicken parmesean) I had
the same problems a few times. (maybe the
heat from the oil changes the fatty
acids?) the only the solution I can think
of would be to eliminate the oil from
getting into the body in the first place,
which is easier said than done. Other
than that im sure it just slips down the
walls of the colon (where its not water
soluble) and puddles around the rectum
until it leaks. It sure is a terrible way
to find out that its been building up.
Ill keep brainstorming about ways to avoid
it but its not looking good. Also, if I
get it again ill (eww) take a sample and
see if I can find out what it is. Im
leaning toward it being very similar in
chemical structre to that olestra fat
subs. From the late 90's.
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armoorefam
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Location: SW Arkansas
Posted: 11-15-05 11:00am
It looks like you fish eaters have a
solution to the orange mucus. For those
of you who cannot link a fish source to
the orange colored substance in the toilet
bowl, you might want to check out this
thread at a celiac forum:
Butterfish....never Again Posted: 11-27-05 18:14pm
Thankyou so much for your help!! I've
had to take the day off work because I
have had orange oily poo. I ate
butterfish for dinner and i'm having
stomach cramps and cant control myself.
Now I know what has caused it. Thanks
again for the info :)
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yeahright
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1
Yellow Roughy Posted: 12-29-05 13:42pm
I am was so happy to finally find an
answer to my problem!
I ate orange roughy at around 5:30 pm
((tuesday)) and around 11:30 pm
((wednesday)) I noticed a foul odor, so I
checked my underware and there was a
bright orange stain. More of the liquid
came out, especially when I passed gas or
went to the bathroom. Curiously, little
came out during the ngiht while I was
sleeping, but in the morning the symptoms
reappered. The symptoms have yet to go
away, is there any way to speed up this
process?
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sweet4jay
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 81 Location: Arkansas
Posted: 12-29-05 13:53pm
Oh my gosh!!! This is soooo weird!
Several months ago, I had diarrhea which
had oily orage stuff floating on top, but
the only thing I ate different that
could've caused it was a boat-load of
cashews the day before. Could it have
been from so much oil in them???? How
strange....
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-29-05 14:07pm
That is very interesting. Not to
pleasant for the participants though.
I will stay away from fish---especially in
the restaurants
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nicky247
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: UK
Posted: 01-12-06 11:48am
sweet4jay
wrote:
oh my gosh!!! This is
soooo weird! Several months ago, I
had diarrhea which had oily orage stuff
floating on top, but the only thing I ate
different that could've caused it was a
boat-load of cashews the day before.
Could it have been from so much oil in
them???? How
strange....
so now we know cashew nuts can trigger
this strange phenomenon. The reason I
say this is because I ate a whole packet
of roasted cashew nuts two days ago and I
now have this horrible effect. Thanks
sweet4jay for confirming this.
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sweet4jay
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 81 Location: Arkansas
Posted: 01-12-06 12:06pm
Cool! Well, i'm glad I figured out what
was wrong with me way back then!!!
At least the effects only last about a
day...
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skibum65
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Boulder, CO
Orange Oil In Bowel Movement Posted: 02-13-06 22:27pm
I have the same issue from time to time
and I eat alot of orange ruffy fish when
it seems to occur. This weekend, I eat
at least five filets of it and then came
the orange oil. I also take flax seed
oil tablets and I believe the combination
of the two could be the culpret. I am
going to stop the fish and flax seed and
see what happens. When I wipe, it is a
great deal of oil and messy...Not clean.
Does anyone feel this is dangerous...Or is
it just too much oil to digest?
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duffster
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 1
Unbelievable, I Won't Be Needing Depends After All... Posted: 02-19-06 10:02am
Wow, I thought I was coming down with some
disease or something. Twice in 1 week I
got this episode of this orange oily stuff
leaking out. It was wierd, like usually
you can tell what's on deck on the way
out, but not this stuff, it just slips
out...Yuck. I thought I was getting old
and this stuff happens. Here it turns out
I had butterfish both times the day
before...Thanks for the info! :shock:
:oops:
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hammerpants
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Calgary
Not Orange Oily Discharge, But Green.... Posted: 03-01-06 18:37pm
I had this oily discharge problem when I
was urinating this morning and I was
shocked to say the least. After reading
through the posts, I now realized that it
was the tuna I ate yesterday - rough in
texture, and orange in colour.
The only thing is that the oily discharge
was not was orange ; it was green. What
could that mean?
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aquaman340
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 1
How Much Fish? Posted: 03-24-06 10:09am
How much are you guys eating? We eat
escolar once or twice a week at our local
sushi bar. I've never had this problem.
But we don't eat large fillets of this
fish.