I guess I will keep this short. I tried
writing it all out but it was way too
complicated. This is attempt #2
I am 20 years old, female. When I was 14 I
was diagnosed with a personality disorder
after a long history of social
awkwardness, and low self-esteem. This
diagnoses was made after 2 halfhearted
suicide attempts and two brief
hospitalizations. I was started on
medication but became violently angry
often, tried to run away twice, and began
cutting myself.
During these few turbulent years I began
abusing my animals badly. I love animals,
I always have, and I always will. I didn't
wonder at the time why I was abusing them,
I just knew it felt satisfying. I had
mostly guinea pigs. I nearly drowned the
first one several times. It felt good to
watch him struggle and shiver, then I
would pull him out and pretend it was
someone else, wrap him in a blanket, hold
him close, and give him treats and love.
Sometimes I hit them. They would squeal
and try to run, and be cornered. I would
smack the ground next to them so that they
would jump and shy away. Then I would be
violently sick, and hurt myself. I had a
gerbil who I spun around in his ball until
he was so dizzy that he would run in
circles.
I remember these things, but it is like
another person, like I was watching some
crazy sick demented piece of trash torture
these babies that I loved, that meant more
to me than any friend. Someone else, and
then I would come back to myself and
rescue them. But I know it was me that
hurt them.
In the last 2 years of high school, after
nearly being expelled, I became stable. I
graduated a special ed high school as
valedictorian, and won the annual "most
improved" award, as well as various other
scholarships. I never hit my pets again. I
swore I never will. My pets are a huge
life now. I dorm at college but I look
foward every weekend to spend time with my
babies. They have their own personalities,
and their own talents. I teach them tricks
and buy them lots of toys and play with
them for hours until they fall alseep in
my lap.
Sometimes, mostly at night I feel
lightheaded and weird for a moment, and I
look at my pets and want to hit them, to
make them scared and hurt, then rescue
them again. I never act on these impulses.
I swore I never would again, because they
deserve better. No one. man or animal,
deserves that kind of treatment.
I have huge amounts of guilt now. It has
become a part of me, this burden of
knowing that I am a sick freak. I can have
all the pets in the world for the rest of
my life, and I can shower them with
attention, love, food, and play, and I
would still be labeled as a criminal by
most animal lovers just for having these
thoughts.
I guess what I am trying to get out of
this is advice, assurance, anger,
anything. I have never told anyone about
this before. So, am I sick? Am I a bad
person? Should I be locked up?
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young Girl
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Posted: 09-19-07 18:53pm
i
dont
know
i work in animal rescue and im appauled by
this post.
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Lostgirl86
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Posted: 09-19-07 19:08pm
I know... I know. I watch "animal cops"
and want to lock up animal abusers for
life, then I get like a flashback and I
think "that should be me"
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young Girl
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Posted: 09-19-07 19:29pm
yeah
man
im sorry. you have to be...hurt? how does
it make you feel to know youve done that?
ive been rescueing dogs for over two years
now and i couldnt imagine even yelling at
a dog
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Lostgirl86
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Posted: 09-19-07 19:42pm
Its deeply confusing. I am such an animal
person, everyone kept saying how I should
become a vet tech or study zoology... No
one knows but me, and their opinion of me
would be ruined. Its like carrying a huge
secret, something that contradicts what
your personality and values are based on.
I love animals so so much. I just bought a
feeder rat the other day to keep it from
being lunch, and I love him so much. But
every time I kiss him (yeah, I kiss rats,
thats how devoted I am now) I think about
how scared he would be if he had been my
pet just 5 years ago.
Thanks for listening... I know I must
sound so disgusting. I feel disgusting.
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young Girl
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Posted: 09-19-07 19:45pm
yeah you do sound discusting but its not
my place to judge you.
im here to help and listen
can you promise me and promise those poor
animals you will never hurt them again?
they have no voices to speak. they cannot
tell you how they feel and they dont
understand what they have done wrong when
you treat them that way.
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Lostgirl86
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Posted: 09-20-07 11:12am
Of course I promise... I love my animals.
I have had many animals since those days,
and I never hit or scared any of them. I
spend much of my small income on toys and
delux food and treats. I love making them
happy. I plan on buying my new rat a
friend to keep him happy during the week
when I am at school. I guess I feel like I
have to make you understand that I am a
good person (or I am trying to prove it to
myself, not sure wich) I am soft-spoken
and am studying psychology... I feel like
I have small insight into the world of
abusers... very small, but insight
nontheless. I think I am a good person...
I try so hard to be. But I guess I want to
know if I will always truley be this
disgusting person... like you said ... I
sound disgusting. If I told anyone, even
my own therapist, they would have a
drastically altered view of me. Does that
mean I am just hiding my disgusting self,
and that all the effort I put into loving
people and animals is superficial and I am
just a horrible person in disguise?
Will I go to hell? These are questions I
ask myself all the time, and it torments
me.
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Marianne0558
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Posted: 09-20-07 11:25am
I'm an animal lover and am appalled by
this post as well.
I think if you are having thoughts of
harming animals, you should not have any
pets at all. And definitely don't have
children either.
I know you can't help this, and I'm not
saying you're a bad person at all.
I think animals deserve a loving home,
where there is no chance of being abused
at all.
Maybe you should consider giving up your
pets to a classroom or something and just
visit the petting zoo when you want to
love up on an animal.
Or, how about volunteering at an animal
shelter? You would be supervised with
animals and you can love on them all you
want. They need the love.
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Lostgirl86
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Posted: 09-20-07 11:39am
Marianne0558
wrote:
I think if you are having thoughts of
harming animals, you should not have any
pets at all. And definitely don't have
children
either.
I don't ever harm people, even
emotionally.
Marianne0558
wrote:
I think animals deserve a
loving home, where there is no chance of
being abused at
all..
There is no home more loving than mine...
I will never abuse again. Ever. Sometimes
I feel like I have an obligation to take
in animals, and help them live the best
possible life. Some of my friends have
pets... but they treat them like
centerpieces on a table. I have adopted
animals from friends and families, have
trained them and socialized them... I
NEVER hit any pets since those years. I
never will again, because I know how much
it hurts the animals, and I know how much
it scars the abuser, even if it was only
at one time in their life.[/quote]
Marianne0558
wrote:
Maybe you should consider
giving up your pets to a classroom or
something and just visit the petting zoo
when you want to love up on an animal.
Or, how about volunteering at an animal
shelter? You would be supervised with
animals and you can love on them all you
want. They need the
love.
I actually volenteer at a nature preserve,
where I work mostly with bats. And I am
sure you know, playing with an animal at a
zoo is not like having your own pet. Its
like babysitting.
So I guess most people will think that
because I did this at one point in my
life, I should never be given another
chance... wow... I know I messed up... but
I thought I could make it up somehow to
the animals, who like stated above, have
no voice of their own. Sorry for being
dramatic.
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Posted: 09-20-07 12:20pm
Lostgirl86
wrote:
If I told anyone, even my
own therapist, they would have a
drastically altered view of me. Does that
mean I am just hiding my disgusting self,
and that all the effort I put into loving
people and animals is superficial and I am
just a horrible person in disguise?
Will I go to
hell?
You shouldn't be afraid to tell your
therapist ANYTHING. They aren't ethically
allowed to have an altered view of you
because of something you told them in
privacy. I would try talking to your
therapist about it. Maybe they can give
you some insight on how to get the
thoughts to stop flooding your mind.
I don't think you are a horrible person, I
just think you have some issues that need
to be dealt with.
I doubt you will go to Hell, but I can't
say for sure since nobody knows whether or
not Hell even exists. I think you are
living in your own personal Hell right
now.
Don't apologize for being dramatic. If
this is a serious problem to you, then you
have every right to be dramatic when
explaining the situation.
Since you are volunteering at a preserve,
that could be a great way to give back to
animals. May I ask how old you were when
the abuse was going on? And how old are
you now?
I ask your age because it isn't unheard of
for children to torture animals. They grow
out of it, as I think you have grown out
of it.
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Posted: 09-20-07 13:37pm
Lostgirl86
wrote:
Of course I promise... I
love my animals. I have had many animals
since those days, and I never hit or
scared any of them. I spend much of my
small income on toys and delux food and
treats. I love making them happy. I plan
on buying my new rat a friend to keep him
happy during the week when I am at school.
I guess I feel like I have to make you
understand that I am a good person (or I
am trying to prove it to myself, not sure
wich) I am soft-spoken and am studying
psychology... I feel like I have small
insight into the world of abusers... very
small, but insight nontheless. I think I
am a good person... I try so hard to be.
But I guess I want to know if I will
always truley be this disgusting person...
like you said ... I sound disgusting. If I
told anyone, even my own therapist, they
would have a drastically altered view of
me. Does that mean I am just hiding my
disgusting self, and that all the effort I
put into loving people and animals is
superficial and I am just a horrible
person in disguise?
Will I go to hell? These are questions I
ask myself all the time, and it torments
me.
hun
that theripist would lock you up or
something. and you could be charged weith
animal cruelty and you really dont want
that
you did a great job comming onto here
looking for help.
i cant say if you will always be this
"discusting" person. i dont know what your
future holds i just hope it holds good
intentions towards the creatures in life
that cannot speak
i cant really say if you will go to hell
or not as i dont believe in hell or
heaven.
just remember that there are people out
there whom can help you if you feel you
need it.
i would never imajine myself ever talking
to a person like this who has done
something like you did. i am a HUGE animal
lover and like i said ive been in dog
recue for over two years now. im
completely against ny form of cruelty
towards animals...but even though you have
done something that hurts me to even think
about adnd talk about...im still here for
you. like i said its not my place to
judge. maybe you were just at a rough time
in your life when that was the only way
you knew how to take out all of your anger
towards yourself and YOUR own life?
when i was 14 i did cocaine horribly for a
year straight. does that mean i will
always be a coke head? no
because i stopped and i looked at my life
and what i was douing and i was discusted
with myself. a year later cocaine and meth
killed one of my best friends when he
commited suicide on tran tracks. he layed
his head directly on the track and the
train couldnt stop.
his name was ishmael...and i think about
what he did all of the time. because i
USED TO BE APART OF IT
and i stopped
that could have been me on those train
tracks. but it wasnt because i turned my
life around...
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Posted: 09-20-07 20:54pm
Marianne0558
wrote:
You shouldn't be afraid to tell your
therapist ANYTHING. They aren't ethically
allowed to have an altered view of you
because of something you told them in
privacy. I would try talking to your
therapist about it. Maybe they can give
you some insight on how to get the
thoughts to stop flooding your
mind.
I know they are not allowed to disclose
information like that unless the person is
a danger to himself or others, but I see
her occasionally and am afraid that if she
treats me different it will hurt me more
than if I never told anyone.
Marianne0558
wrote:
I don't think you are a horrible person, I
just think you have some issues that need
to be dealt
with.
That means so much to me.
Marianne0558
wrote:
I think you are living in your own
personal Hell right now.
Yeah... I don't think anyone can
understand shame unless they have
experienced it so deeply.
Marianne0558
wrote:
May I ask how old you were when the abuse
was going on? And how old are you now?
I ask your age because it isn't unheard of
for children to torture animals. They grow
out of it, as I think you have grown out
of it.
I was 13/14 when I had my breakdown and
all that. It was accompanied by dangerous
sex acts, self-mutilation, rage, and
dissociative episodes. I can live with the
scars and can fix most of my
relationships, but even 6 years later I
feel increasingly conflicted about what I
did to those poor animals then.
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Posted: 11-03-07 20:07pm
OMG, this post will stick in my head
forever.
Get help.
NOW.
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Posted: 11-04-07 00:05am
NO- If you see a therapist, they will NOT
lock you up as long as there is no threat
to yourself or other humans. Go get help,
you will be safe.