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Posted: 09-29-07 11:05am
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| Georgia59
wrote: | I don't believe it's a
person either, we've had this argument
either.  |
I know, and we've dis-proven them time and
again. It gets annoying. They need a new
argument.
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Posted: 09-29-07 11:37am
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| Eiri
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | | Eiri
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"Let them be" does NOT give anyone the
right to kill someone else for being
different, or to not hire them for being
different, or to deny them basic rights
because they are different.
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but if you are different ~ a fetus ~ then
everybody has the right to kill you
right?
talk about killing for being
different.. |
A fetus is not a Person. Period. In no way
shape or form. Not physically, mentally,
or lawfully. It cannot have rights because
it is invading the physical rights of
someone else. That person (woman) is being
merciful if she decides to let it survive.
Otherwise, she has the right to kill
it. |
Oh yes it is a kind of person..It's a
person in it's first stages of
development, when you are in the womb.
so your definition of "different" is
according to
convenience |
No. It is human, not a person.
People are sentient. Zefs are not.
People can communicate. Zefs cannot.
People have fully independent digestive
systems. Zefs do not.
People have fully developed bodies capable
of surviving outside of the womb. Zefs at
the common stages of abortion do not.
Would you like me to to keep going down
the list?
ZEFS are not
PEOPLE. |
they are different kind of people. Admit
it eiri
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-29-07 11:58am
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No, I won't. There is nothing
"people-like" about a fetus at all.
Biologically the statement "fetuses are
people" makes NO sense. As I base my
opinions off of fact and not fictional
stories, I cannot say a fetus is a person.
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Food For Thought
Posted: 09-29-07 12:22pm
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Children are not adults.
Adults are people.
Are children people?
What are the differences between children
and adults that distinguish one from the
other? (rhetorical)
How do those differences apply when
considering fetuses?
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Georgia59
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Posted: 09-29-07 17:39pm
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That's what I thought. I got all confused
when people started posting.
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Re: Food For Thought
Posted: 09-30-07 02:52am
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| Birch
wrote: | Children are not adults.
Adults are people.
Are children people?
What are the differences between children
and adults that distinguish one from the
other? (rhetorical)
How do those differences apply when
considering
fetuses? |
Hm *brain ticks*.
People are say, "shapes". There are many
shapes. Rectangles, circles, ect. A fetus
is the flavor of milk. Milk... is not a
shape. Milk is a flavor, a taste. Very
different from a shape.
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Posted: 09-30-07 09:09am
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As I base my opinions off of fact.
tell us the fact that determines unborn
human beings are not persons please.
"People are say, "shapes". There are many
shapes. Rectangles, circles, ect. A fetus
is the flavor of milk. Milk... is not a
shape. Milk is a flavor, a taste. Very
different from a shape. "
people are say spilt milk, spilt milk
makes many shapes, rectangles, circles ect
they all taste like milk, a fetus is milk
and tastes like milk but it is a shape
that is not like the other shapes, does
this make the fetus any less milk?
your statment doesnt make any sense, take
your argument in another sense
"People are say, "shapes". There are many
shapes. Rectangles, circles, ect. A woman
is the flavor of milk. Milk... is not a
shape. Milk is a flavor, a taste. Very
different from a shape. "
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-30-07 12:24pm
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I just wrote a huge post explaining Guest
and their stupidity. The fact that s/he
cannot understand the purpose behind an
analogy appalls me, but there's nothing I
can do about that.
I realise I can choose instead to ignore
them. I have a habit of ignoring stupid
people. I suggest you all do the same.
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Posted: 09-30-07 13:37pm
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I got lost at "a fetus is the flavor of
milk". I thought people taste like
chicken? 
(I just had a huge Sunday brunch and am
feeling groggy, so I don't think my brain
is working correctly right now.)
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Posted: 09-30-07 15:30pm
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Fetuses have all the parts either there or
in situ to be children, who have all the
parts there or in situ to be adults.
Isn't calling a fetus not a person
developmental discrimination?
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Posted: 09-30-07 16:18pm
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| Birch
wrote: | Fetuses have all the parts
either there or in situ to be children,
who have all the parts there or in situ to
be adults.
Isn't calling a fetus not a person
developmental
discrimination? |
Fetuses may, but not many fetuses are
aborted.
Secondly, simply having all of the body
parts to be a child or adult isn't enough.
You need physical independence from the
mother's body. A child has that. A
late-term fetus could have that. An adult
has that. An embryo or early-term fetus
does not.
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Posted: 09-30-07 17:53pm
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I consider a thinking/feeling human being
a person.
Since fetuses don't think or feel, I don't
believe that they're a person.
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Posted: 09-30-07 18:22pm
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| Georgia59
wrote: | I consider a
thinking/feeling human being a person.
Since fetuses don't think or feel, I don't
believe that they're a
person. |
You of course run into the problem from
pro-lifers of "A comatose person isn't
thinking!"
My personal response to that is "they are
born, and they DID think at one point."
They've already achieved "personhood" and
the only thing that can take that away in
my opinion is death.
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Posted: 06-16-08 11:07am
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| Gu£st
wrote: | The Homosexual movement has
not and does not accept the west, that is
why they are and continuing to try to
Change it.
why dont they just let people be
people |
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Posted: 06-16-08 11:11am
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^hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
What the hell indeed, homerx.
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Posted: 06-16-08 15:06pm
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This is not about what's human, this is
about homosexuality...
I personally think the west side of the
states accept things a lot more than the
east side. That being said, I believe it's
because the east side is older and doesn't
like change. The west is newer and like
'experimenting' and are realizing that
homosexuality is a good choice and are
accepting it a lot easier.
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Posted: 06-16-08 16:15pm
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| Tylanas
wrote: | I just wrote a huge post
explaining Guest and their stupidity. The
fact that s/he cannot understand the
purpose behind an analogy appalls me, but
there's nothing I can do about that.
I realise I can choose instead to ignore
them. I have a habit of ignoring stupid
people. I suggest you all do the
same. |
but its getting easier with him as he
keeps digging himself deeper and deeper
into idiocy.
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Posted: 06-16-08 17:16pm
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I wish I could help on this subject but
gay marriage is allowed here beside that
it should be accepted everywhere!!
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