Offical Catholic Doctrine On Homosexuality

What a load of patronising claptrap.

*Phoey*

I'm sorry, but the Catholic religion lost a lot of points with me when they were victimizing children for as long as the faith has been around. If they accept that than they must accept homosexuality. At least homosexuality is between consenting adults.

You know, I might as well just say it. I find the Catholic church to be one of the most hypocritical institutions of organized religion.

Catholic priests are synonymous with abusing young boys. I don't care what % you mention. A small percentage doesn't make it any better. Also don't compare them to gay people as you have done. They are pedophiles!! THey could have jus tas easily met a gay adult and engaged in sex if they wanted to, yet they didn't.

And how has the church dealt with this problem? By trying to sweep it under the rug. Quickly paying off the victims and relocating the priests. The priests should be relocated out of the church and into prison!!

The church also condoned the castration of young choir boys in the 1600's so that their voice would not change and remain high. That practice went on for over 250 years!!

During the Inquisition. The church started a mass burning of the stakes against Jews in France in around 1288. The Inquisition itself was horrible!!

Then there's the Church's role in the Yugoslavian Holocaust in World War II. Archbishop Stepanac and Vatican representative Abbot Marcone were both involved with this.

Even the pope of the time was controversial to what was happening during World War II. There are also many pictures of Catholic Cardinals giving the Nazi salute.

The present day Pope. Pope Benedict was once part of the Nazi Youth Movement.

The list can keep going, but I think you get the idea.

I love Jesus. I just don't care for his fan club.

Eric

You know I find this thread to be absolutely hilarious. OK so the Catholics see that homosexuality is so wrong, blah blah blah.

Isn't it the CATHOLIC PRIESTS that have been touching little boys? What about those sick pervs? Isn't that being hypocritical??

How come it is ONLY the Catholic priests that molest the boys?

I'm pretty sure there are clergy of other religions molesting children, it just doesn't get press time.

1. There are a lot of priests and altar boys, thus increasing the risk.
2. One case got huge press time, so other investigations followed, revealing more cases.
3. The church was extremely embarrassed by this and did the only thing they could to save face.

Good for you. I don't think it's necessary for ANYONE (be it church, priest, person, president, whatever!) should discriminate against people based on their sexual nature. Sex is supposed to be a private matter so it shouldn't be anyone's business anyway!

If I want to be with another woman, far be it for ANYONE to tell me otherwise. I control my self. No one controls me or tells me who I can and cannot fall in love with.

what's funnier, is that the Catholic church seems to pull "Tradition dictates this, therefore it's right" out of it's vatican sphincter all the time.

It makes no rational sense to me.

Well correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the bible dictate that slavery was ok? That polygamy was ok?

In today's society, homosexuality is a lot less of a "sin" or whatever those nuts say. It's more accepted. If slavery could be abolished even though it's "ok in the bible," why can't homosexuality be more accepted? I just don't understand WHY it's so horrible. What makes finding love (regardless of whether or not it's between a man and a woman) so wrong?

That's why I don't go to church. I believe what I want and don't try to push my beliefs on others. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone so why is it so wrong to people? It's not like homicide.

I don't understand how Catholics can dictate that homosexuality is so wrong but then they go to their office with the alter boy.....

True, and that's a good point. I wasn't totally sure if they were supposed to be celibate or not.

Yeah, they can't get married either. They're married to the church.

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Isn't this not an acceptable acceptable solution to not only common law, but also if the church is to follow the laws of the bible?

Isn't saving face the same as keeping ones pride? Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?

The bottom line is those priests should be getting prison time, but more and more it's just gets settled out of court and the priests are relocated.

And although the Church is against marriage or masturbation. That really is a flimsy reason as to why they would molest boys. Wouldn't snappin the radish be a lot less of an evil than raping a young boy? I can't imagine that mastubation would fall under the same catergory as mastubation as far as being evil in the eyes of the church.


Eric

This is why the Catholic church is so confusing to me. They are hypocritical brainwashers.

It seems like the parents of these boys don't care about their child's well-being, they care about the money they receive from settling.

Which is what the Catholic church is about anyway. They like money.

Aren't they the ones who were selling indulgences to get into Heaven?

"HOMOSEXUALS MUST BE ACCEPTED with RESPECT, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust DISCRIMINATION in their regard SHOULD BE AVOIDED."
well that's nice to hear, at least. Still, I just think it's weird to try and stop people from doing what they want with the people they love. Jesus rocks but WOW have people lost sight of what he was all about. I'm not really 100% on this, but did Jesus himself ever even say anything about hell? I think that was all those other guys who certainly aren't any kind of Godly.

Here I am going to chime up for the catholics again. Tell me if it gets old.

Not all catholics believe this way!! Yes, "The Church" as an institution does, and that is a problem. But many Catholics are seeing this and hoping that the Church will come around to accepting homosexuality (not to mention birth control) because the Church DOES change with the times, albeit slowly, and if more Catholics stood up and made their voices heard, perhaps the Church would come around a little more quickly?

A common thought in my Catholic in-law family is, "There's no American representation in the Church" meaning, American voices aren't getting heard, progressive voices aren't getting heard. The Church has created it's own culture, and is stuck in it- but many (worldwide) Catholics are seeing that and trying to encourage the Church to open their eyes to the wider world around them. I mean, they've made some progress, and although I don't expect any progress from the current pope, he's old, right? Things will change, eventually. I have faith in that. And the section of the Church that has become liberal and started stepping away from the traditional beliefs about these things is becoming stronger and more vocal every day.

I totally don't understand how someone can say "being homosexual is ok" but also "acting homosexual is a sin." It's just totally discordant with the idea of accepting a person and being loving and non-judgmental.

Ok, I'm done.

Phew.

*Vatican Shincter* HAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahah .....*gasp*.....HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahha!