I guess the bottom line is
nobody know what it looks like.. they are
all just
guessing..
I know what an 8/9 weeks old embryo/fetus
looks like, having seen one. People do
know about pregnancy stages and human
development, they don't just guess (if
they did why would ultrasounds be used to
date pregnancies?)
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meblonde01
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Posted: 11-01-07 14:42pm
well, that was my point.. I think
pregnancy .com is there to show you what
your baby is looking like through the
stages.. I don't think they would put fake
pictures on it. It is a site to inform and
teach women as they go through there
pregnancy.
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Re: Fooled....... Posted: 11-01-07 15:37pm
sadie1
wrote:
Ok... i have my human growth
and developement book right in front of
me... I am looking at it right now..... at
6 and 7 weeks... they have a human
shape... not fully developed yet.... but
you can see what it is... are you saying
this book is misinforming me to? It has
fetal stages...... also pulled out the
Human A&P book..... I am looking at
it.... it says in weeks 5 through 7 the
embroyonic body and face develop a more
human like appearance.... I am looking at
pictures...... I am not easily
fooled....... that is your opinion.. I
was just looking for the facts.... it is
what i found. These books do not talk
about abortion.... so I was saying I was
misinformed about the way they did it...
how many weeks they were when they did
it... and if it already had a heart beat
at the time of it.... I was told that you
had to be atleast 8 weeks before they
would give an abortion...to make sure they
got all of it out..... Im not saying that
is fact.... just what I was told.
Again..... it will be my daughters
choice... but I will let her see the site
and read many books on it before she makes
a dicision... She will not be mislead like
I was..... That is all I am saying... She
will be the one who would have to live
with her dicision... not
me.
lol! I thought you didn't know what they
looked like until you saw the pictures on
the websites!!!!
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Posted: 11-01-07 15:39pm
meblonde01
wrote:
well, that was my point.. I
think pregnancy .com is there to show you
what your baby is looking like through the
stages.. I don't think they would put fake
pictures on it. It is a site to inform and
teach women as they go through there
pregnancy.
The site I showed you is the leading
embryonic research center in the world.
Click around and look at more than just
that one page. You might find it
interesting.
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Posted: 11-01-07 15:41pm
Sadie: You only started being pro-life
when you figured out that foetuses
resembled human beings?
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Posted: 11-01-07 21:53pm
lol!
(I'm sorry, that just cracked me up!)
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Futureshock.. Posted: 11-01-07 22:11pm
I was just saying..... I thought they did
them before they took human form....I was
told by someone in the medical field that
they did it at about 8 weeks..... I am
looking at it from all views.... not just
yours or mine.... I am for what anyone
else want to do with their own body..... I
don't care how many abortions you have or
anyone else has.... What I saw changed my
mind about it and it is my opinion...
That is what this is about .....
opinions... doesn't mean anyone is right
or wrong...I just have a different out
look on it now.....
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Posted: 11-01-07 22:44pm
They DO perform abortions at eight weeks,
Sadie. In fact, betweens weeks 6 and 12 is
when about 60% of ALL abortions take
place.
It's perfectly fine to be personally
pro-life, as long as you respect the
rights of others. I highly respect that
point of view and give kudos to anyone who
can actually say "I'd never do it, but you
have the right to."
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Posted: 11-02-07 06:16am
Eiri, 56% of abortions are done by 8
weeks, 90% by 12. The main reason why any
abortions occur later than that is
pro-life legislation, ironically enough.
Things like mandatory parental consent
causes many teens to delay an abortion for
fear of telling their parents, or having
to travel to states where there is no such
law, or waiting until they turn 18 if they
are close to their birthdays.
Also, mandatory waiting periods,like
having to wait 24 hours after you see a
counselor at a clinic causes delays,
because some women have to travel great
distances to get to a clinic in the first
place. Since the majority of women
getting abortions already have children, they
have to arrange childcare and time off
from work to get away for two days. Most
can't stay overnight (24 hours) so they
have to make 2 appointments, hence the
delay.
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Re: Fooled....... Posted: 11-02-07 06:25am
sadie1
wrote:
Again..... it will be my
daughters choice... but I will let her see
the site and read many books on it before
she makes a dicision... She will not be
mislead like I was..... That is all I am
saying... She will be the one who would
have to live with her dicision... not
me.
Why was it ok to have an abortion before
it took human form?
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Posted: 11-02-07 07:41am
futureshock
wrote:
Eiri, 56% of abortions are
done by 8 weeks, 90% by 12. The main
reason why any abortions occur later than
that is pro-life legislation, ironically
enough.
Huzza, an even larger number! I wanted to
go higher but as I didn't have the stat in
front of me I played it safe.
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Re: Fooled....... Posted: 11-02-07 07:44am
sadie1
wrote:
Again..... it will be my
daughters choice... but I will let her see
the site and read many books on it before
she makes a dicision... She will not be
mislead like I was..... That is all I am
saying... She will be the one who would
have to live with her dicision... not
me.
I don't see the point; you were NOT
misled. Not by pro-choicers anyway.
Afterwards you were misled by pro-lifers
and you've now been fooled into thinking
that miniature babies are being aborted.
It's not true.
Does a 12 week fetus look slightly human?
I guess, if your opinion of a human has a
gigantic head with enormous black eyes, a
tiny face, stick-thin limbs and a body
about the length of its head... and all of
that is less than the length of the palm
of your hand. Far less.
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Re: Futureshock.. Posted: 11-02-07 14:40pm
sadie1
wrote:
I was just saying..... I
thought they did them before they took
human
form....
Regardless of how they looked what exactly
did you think a human embryo was?
sadie1
wrote:
I was told by someone in the
medical field that they did it at about 8
weeks..... I am looking at it from all
views.... not just yours or mine....
They do them at any time (here, "socially"
up until and during 24th week, up until
birth for fetal abnormality/maternal
health)
sadie1
wrote:
I am for what anyone else
want to do with their own body..... I
don't care how many abortions you have or
anyone else has.... What I saw changed my
mind about it and it is my opinion...
That is what this is about .....
opinions... doesn't mean anyone is right
or wrong...I just have a different out
look on it
now.....
This is a pro-choice view- if you have no
concern about a woman having an abortion
but personally wouldn't then
this is pro-choice
