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Gu£st
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Abortion In the Case of Life of the Mother
Posted: 10-12-07 19:40pm
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Suppose a women is pregnant the stage of
pregnancy dosnt matter, she is blind, deaf
and paralised from the neck down, she is
mentally disabled due to an accident, she
is going to die if she does not have an
abortion and she is unable to make an
informed choice due to her disablity. Her
child is healthy and strong.
1. You are the doctor, she has no next of
kin, you must decide for her what do you
choose?
2. You are the womans husband and father
of the child, you must decide for her,
what do you choose?
3. You are the womans mother and
grandmother of the child, you do not know
the father, what do you choose?
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 10-12-07 20:12pm
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I don't think the doctors can stand by and
let her die by not aborting.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-12-07 20:22pm
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Oooh good one.
If I was the doctor, I would save the
woman's life- as that is my job.
If I was the husband, I would do what I
think she would've wanted to do.
If I was the mother, I'd probably try
saving the woman. For obvious reasons.
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Jincks013
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:13pm
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(Warning.. incoming sarcasm) Are you
kidding? save the fetus.. the wench
doesn't matter!! Whats wrong with you
people? YOu'd kill and innocent baby? Let
the woman die! Its what god intended! What
do you mean if she dies the fetus does
too? So.. We have to keep her body alive
in order to gestate!! She's a uninhabited
brood sow. (0k.. done now)
Get real.. save the womans life. Why would
you even need to ask?
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:16pm
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| Jincks013
wrote: | (Warning.. incoming sarcasm)
Are you kidding? save the fetus.. the
wench doesn't matter!! Whats wrong with
you people? YOu'd kill and innocent baby?
Let the woman die! Its what god intended!
What do you mean if she dies the fetus
does too? So.. We have to keep her body
alive in order to gestate!! She's a
uninhabited brood sow. (0k.. done now)
Get real.. save the womans life. Why would
you even need to
ask? |
hun, this woman has no quality of life
left.. why save her when a perfectly
viable human being resides within her?
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Jincks013
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:26pm
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No in fact it doesn't say that.. it says
she is mentally disabled.. does this give
anyone the right to turn her into a
breeding machine? Treat her like the only
value she has left is to be able to
gestate? how will you explain labor to
her?
I'd think the doctor has an obligation to
the woman.
The male can reproduce at a later point.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:40pm
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| Jincks013
wrote: | | No in fact it doesn't say
that.. it says she is mentally disabled..
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it does, in fact...
| Gu£st
wrote: | | she is blind, deaf and
paralised from the neck down, she is
mentally disabled due to an
accident |
just making a point.
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Re: Abortion In the Case of Life of the Mother
Posted: 10-12-07 22:07pm
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| Gu£st
wrote: | Suppose a women is pregnant
the stage of pregnancy dosnt matter, she
is blind, deaf and paralised from the neck
down, she is mentally disabled due to an
accident, she is going to die if she does
not have an abortion and she is unable to
make an informed choice due to her
disablity. Her child is healthy and
strong.
1. You are the doctor, she has no next of
kin, you must decide for her what do you
choose? |
I'd save the woman. As someone else, said,
it is my job. IF the fetus is far along
enough to be removed safely via c-section
I would petition for this to happen and
then have the child adopted. If not,
abortion would be the obvious and easy
answer.
| Quote: |
tr> | 2. You are the
womans husband and father of the child,
you must decide for her, what do you
choose? |
Again as someone else said, I'd try to
make the decision my wife would want. As a
female, I know that if I was in that
situation, I would want the child saved if
possible even at the risk of my own life,
because the child is obviously wanted and
more viable than me.
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tr> | 3. You are the
womans mother and grandmother of the
child, you do not know the father, what do
you choose? |
I would save my daughter. Immediate and
easy choice. She is my daughter, and her
life comes first. Unless I knew somehow
that she'd want the child saved, then I
would follow her wishes as hard as they
would be.
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:32pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | | Jincks013
wrote: | | No in fact it doesn't say
that.. it says she is mentally disabled..
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it does, in fact...
| Gu£st
wrote: | | she is blind, deaf and
paralised from the neck down, she is
mentally disabled due to an
accident |
just making a
point. |
actually where does it say percisely she
has no quality of life? Other then the
fact you want to use her as a incubator...
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:33pm
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what quality of life can a woman who cant
see, hear, feel, or think correctly have?
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:37pm
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Ever read the biography of Helen Keller?
How about anything pertaining to Dr.
Steven Hawkins? Know what a savant is? The
woman isn't brain dead but you seem to
think its ok to turn her into a incubator
until it kills her and the scenario
clearly says it will.
This is ok how?
Here babe. I know you can't understand but
I'm going to use up your body and let you
die.. have a good afterlive love and
kisses.. Rain..
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:39pm
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if shes so bad off.. whats to say her life
wont end soon after anyway?
Put urself in her shoes..would u want the
doctors to save you or your baby?
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:42pm
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Reread the scenario; try opening your eyes
this time.
She will die of the pregnancy if its
allowed.
Why do you think her life has less value
the the nonsentient embryo??
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:50pm
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| Jincks013
wrote: | Reread the scenario; try
opening your eyes this time.
She will die of the pregnancy if its
allowed.
Why do you think her life has less value
the the nonsentient
embryo?? |
*eyes open... reading... getting a
headache..*
what makes u think she wont die soon after
anyway due to complications from the
accident?
Wouldnt it make sense to give the baby a
chance at life, since its mothers is
hanging by a thread regardless of the
birth of a baby?
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:58pm
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Rainfire, what would you do if you were
the doctor, and this WOMAN was your
patient with no next of kin, as the
question asks?
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 23:10pm
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honestly?
i would evaluate the mothers chance at
survivial... and decide whether or not
she'd have any quality of life
whatsoever.
after that was decided, i'd go from there.
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Gu£st
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Posted: 10-13-07 05:31am
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Well hats off to the pro choice brigade,
you guys are very consistant.
It seems all of you choose Abortion, I
didnt think you would but you did, I am
shocked.
Another question suppose the woman isnt
pregnant, she is as rainfire so aptly
pointed out deaf, blind, and paralised
from the neck down, she is mentally
disabled due to an accident, so much so
that she is both unable to understand the
world around her, hence not make the
decision in the first senario, she will
need a machine to keep her alive for the
rest of her life.
Do you kill her (switch off the machine)
or continue her life?
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Posted: 10-13-07 05:44am
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Why guest does her "Quality of life" come
down to being used as an incubator when
that will definately kill her? Why does it
always come down to the womans rights
being less important then the embryo to
you guys?
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Posted: 10-13-07 05:46am
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"Why guest does her "Quality of life" come
down to being used as an incubator when
that will definately kill her? Why does it
always come down to the womans rights
being less important then the embryo to
you guys? "
answer the question then I will answer
yours!
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Jincks013
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Posted: 10-13-07 05:48am
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Mentally damaged or not even paralyzed
from the neck down she can still speak and
state her own wishes about flipping a
switch Guest. Again you show that the
womans own input is of no matter to you..
now answer mine..
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