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Posted: 11-12-07 13:38pm
I think it's possible that Adam and Eve
were real and that we have other races.
They could have been any race. I honestly
believe that regardless of how humans got
here, they evolved so they could adapt to
their environment. It happens all the
time. It explains why there are so many
white people in North America and so many
black people in Africa.
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Rodge
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Posted: 11-12-07 13:55pm
North America is a bad example to use,
since all the white people are immigrants.
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Jude-Love
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Posted: 11-12-07 14:15pm
Yeah, but they still came from a part of
the world where the sun is less intense.
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Posted: 11-14-07 07:49am
Jude-Love
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Yeah, but they still came
from a part of the world where the sun is
less intense.
and they orginated over 100,000 years ago
in a sun intensive area.. your point?
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Posted: 11-14-07 14:37pm
Jincks013
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Jude-Love
wrote:
Yeah, but they still came
from a part of the world where the sun is
less intense.
and they orginated over 100,000 years ago
in a sun intensive area.. your
point?
That they evolved to have paler skin
because they didn't NEED dark skin up
north.
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Posted: 11-16-07 12:07pm
I do not believe we came from Apes. People
can throw that we evolved from the apes
and that is sheer non sense. Why have the
apes not evolved along with us? Who can
really argue that we mutated and they
stayed the same? Where is the proof of
this theory , which it IS only a theory
and not facts!
I believe in adam and eve much more than
this whole monkey business.
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Posted: 11-16-07 12:36pm
Emma2
wrote:
I do not believe we came
from Apes. People can throw that we
evolved from the apes and that is sheer
non sense. Why have the apes not evolved
along with us? Who can really argue that
we mutated and they stayed the same? Where
is the proof of this theory , which it IS
only a theory and not facts!
I believe in adam and eve much more than
this whole monkey
business.
1. We did not evolve from apes. That fixes
your first few questions.
We evolved from ape-LIKE creatures. We did
NOT evolve from modern apes. Every single
primate on the planet has one common
ancestor: The ape-like creature. It has a
specific name (like we are homo-sapeins)
and it has actual fossils, I just don't
remember what it's called off the top of
my head.
So, apes evolved from this creature and we
did too. The apes ended up in a different
environment from early hominids and so
they did not need to develop bipedalism or
any of the things we developed. They
stayed in the forest, and so they stayed
the same. If there is no need to change
and evolve, then an animal won't do it.
Sharks have remained the same for millions
of years. They had no need to evolve.
We mutated and then stayed the same? What?
First of all, it was not a sudden thing.
It happened slowly over millions of years.
First our ancestors became bipedal, then
their brains began to grow, etc. Many many
"versions" actually died out during this
time!! There were many early humans, but
only one species survived. Us.
Secondly, we have not "Stayed the same".
For recorded human history, not enough
time has passed compared to the
pre-history (the time we evolved in) for
any major biological change to take place.
Evolution is an extremely slow process.
From ape-like creature to "cave-men" took
millions of years. From cave-men to the
earliest agricultural cultures took
another several million years. From the
earliest farmers to present day humans,
only a couple thousand years have passed
(by a couple I mean up to/ about 20,000).
That's not enough time to evolve in a
dramatic way. My numbers may be slightly
off, I'm attempting to recall things from
my anthropology class a few years ago.
We have changed, however. Humans are
taller (by 6-12 inches) than we were in
the past. This is partly due to better
diet but it is also due to slow
evolutionary change. I can't think up any
more obvious physical adaptions off the
top of my head but I might go look for
some later.
I don't know what your explanation for
these fossils is. They are not monkey or
ape fossils, yet they are not exactly
human. However, they are similar to both.
How do Christians explain the fossil
record that draws a clear path from us
(and all current primates) back to a
common ancestor? How can you explain the
fact that genetic testing has proven we
are related and also draws a direct path
backwards to a common ancestor? As the
fossils get older, they are more ape-like.
Younger fossils are more human-like. What
does that say to YOU?
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Posted: 11-17-07 08:02am
You are right Emma2.. we did not evolve
from apes.. we evolved from a common
ancestor of the modern ape and the modern
human.
There is hard empirical evidence of this
process in the form of fossils;
mineralized remains of the actual skeletal
structures of these creatures and the ones
before and after.
DNA - our DNA is 98% identical to a
chimpanzee.
I find these facts to be far more
believable then some unproven adam and eve
story.
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Posted: 11-17-07 08:26am
still don't believe this. i'm sorry. I'm
not a religious fanatic but I don't buy
the whole chimpanzee BS.
explain to me why humans then have no
evolved to much more than what we are?
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Posted: 11-17-07 14:09pm
Emma2
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still don't believe this.
i'm sorry. I'm not a religious fanatic but
I don't buy the whole chimpanzee BS.
explain to me why humans then have no
evolved to much more than what we
are?
We already TOLD you it was not a
chimpanzee. Read what we write.
We already TOLD you why we haven't evolved
much in the past few thousand years. IT'S
NOT ENOUGH TIME TO EVOLVE. Read what we
write.
We are
evolving right now. It's just a
slow process that you cannot see by
looking back 100 years or 1,000 years.
10,000 years, no. 100,00 no. Get to a
million years back and you will see
differences.
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Posted: 11-17-07 14:25pm
Emma2....I believe that man evolved from
an ape-like creature (not an a modern ape)
and it is correct that evolution is a
terribly slow process. How long did it
take the ape-like creature with hair all
over its body to evolve to homonid form?
Millions of years. Look on the ring
fingers of your hands. I have hair growing
on the middle knuckle and the chances are
that you, as a woman, do not. There are
subtle changes that occur over time to
adapt the human body to the environment.
We live in a more temperate climate than
our long-ago ancestors and, thus, have
less hair on our bodies. Things like
that.
Your question about why we as humans have
not evolved further than we have, I think
I can explain. Much of our later evolution
is the development of our brain, something
not readily seen. But it is nonetheless
our greatest advantage over our ape and
monkey cousins.
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Posted: 11-18-07 07:47am
Emma2
wrote:
still don't believe this.
i'm sorry. I'm not a religious fanatic but
I don't buy the whole chimpanzee BS.
explain to me why humans then have no
evolved to much more than what we
are?
Just google it http://www.asu.edu/clas/iho/
read a little bit or take a class at your
local community college.
Not that I think you will actually educate
yourself but there is a good text out on
it called "In search of ourselves" you
might want to read.
ANd since I doubt you really want
information (or you'd have done the
research already) I will direct you to a
colorful easy to read map
http://an
thropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.h
tml
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Posted: 11-18-07 08:01am
Link of interest- John Scalzi went to the
Creation Museum, and here is his report on
it!
http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=
121
Warning- gratuitous use of swearing and
science.
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Heh, that is some funny stuff. It's about
20 minutes away for me-we were actually
thinking about going b/c it's bloody
hysterical, but then it's $20 a person and
that is bloody hysterical, too.
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Posted: 11-18-07 11:06am
Hooray for you.
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Rodge
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Posted: 11-18-07 12:23pm
Yeah, I have. It's a nice story. I like
the part where either the women magically
appear out of nowhere, or everyone
inbreeds like crazy.
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Posted: 11-18-07 12:42pm
Rodge
wrote:
Yeah, I have. It's a nice
story. I like the part where either the
women magically appear out of nowhere, or
everyone inbreeds like
crazy.
read it again obviously you did not
understand it. disgusting how you make fun
of it .
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Rodge
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Posted: 11-18-07 12:46pm
So where did they come from, then?
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Gu£st
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Posted: 11-18-07 19:28pm
Where does the Idea that a "serpent" is a
snake?
Or even the fruit was an "apple"
Why do we have so many false preconcieved
Idea's about Christianity..... why?
let me tell you why, because when we are
kids we are taught in a child like way so
that we can grasp and understand the
basics of what is going on but when we
grow up we imediately disregard these
"fairy tales" because obviously there is
no such thing as a talking snake or what
is so wrong with eating an apple anyway,
it remains a part of our childhood, we
never try to re-learn the faith from an
adult persepctive, we put blocks up
against it, often using the childlish
understanding we have of the faith as
proof that the adult understanding is
simply wrong.
We can not begin to learn the adult faith
until we put away the childish images and
false preconcieved Ideas... Guess what the
devil dont have red skin a pointy tail
hoofs and horns, God aint some old guy in
the sky with a white beard and snakes dont
talk....for goodness sake grow up!
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read it again obviously you did not
understand it. disgusting how you make fun
of it .