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Posted: 10-16-07 19:28pm

Eiri wrote:
rainfire1424 wrote:
Eiri wrote:
Mmm, chocolate burrito...


lol.. ew. Beans and meat and CHOCOLATE?

gag me with a spoon. Razz

or a burrito made ENTIRELY out of JUST chocolate...

yum.

NOw i want fudge.


No! Lol. It'd be chunky chocolate ice-cream with chocolate syrup wrapped in a round version of an ice-cream cone. With nuts!

(we have something called a coco-taco as an ice-cream dessert in the dining hall, so a coco-burrito isn't a stretch)


ooh we have choco-taco's at taco bell.. and they are scrumptious!!
those are prolly similiar to a coco-taco. They're like, a waffle cone in the shape of a taco shell covered in a hard chocolate shell, with niller ice-cream in the middle and topped with more hard chocolate and nuts.

OMG im hungry now.
whens dinner?
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Posted: 10-16-07 19:32pm

Lol, yeah those are the coco-tacos we have too! I want to invent the coco-burrito!
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Posted: 10-16-07 19:53pm

Eiri wrote:
Lol, yeah those are the coco-tacos we have too! I want to invent the coco-burrito!


lol go for it!! i'd buy 'em!!
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Posted: 10-17-07 08:40am

futureshock wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
key word here is theory! And still does not explain how the matter got there to cause it!


You have no idea what any of this means, do you? What does the big bang theory say? Can you just jot down a sentence or two explaining what it says, so I can better understand what you don't accept about it?

How about let's start with the difference between evolution and the big bang.

What is the difference?


Ok, here is what I think.. I think the big bang happened.. BUT, I think God had something to do with it. My argument is something does not just get there on its own. I think God had a hand in the big bang. There is proof of how old the earth is. But the big bang is theory just like God is to some people. Just like what I feel is my “theory”. So I believe in creation of earth from God . I feel the earth is indeed millions of years old. And the six days as explained in the bible of making the earth is not 6 days as we know it. So I believe in both, but both are still a theory. I watch a show called our universe, ( or something like that) on the discovery channel. And all the way through it when they talked about the big bang they kept saying.. “And the theory is” Because they don’t know.. Just like I don’t know. Nor you!
I believe in God so I believe he had a hand in starting this earth. But I don’t disregard facts of how old the earth, because there is proof. You can’t deny proof. But like I have been saying right along. There has to be something there to make the big bang. And how did it get there? I don’t know, nobody does, but my belief system thinks GOD..
Now I'm ready for some Chocolate too.. Smile
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Posted: 10-17-07 09:16am

so what you are really saying is that you support the intelligent design model then? Why didn't you just say so?
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Posted: 10-17-07 14:09pm

question solved. Heres your answer.
Read it for real. Dont pretend.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Are a/AnswersBook/races18.asp


And besides do you realize how silly you are being saying that it proves evolution? Do you?
You are basically saying that we as humans evolved separately throughout history. Even if one believes the great lie(evolution), you HAVE to believe in common ancestry, which means we are all of one blood.
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Posted: 10-17-07 14:54pm

Um, just so you know, according to evolution, we DID all descend from one being. Her name is Lucy. Maybe you should educate yourself.

Many creatures evolve independently, I don't see why that's a strange concept.
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Posted: 10-17-07 15:11pm

milletics wrote:
question solved. Heres your answer.
Read it for real. Dont pretend.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Are a/AnswersBook/races18.asp


And besides do you realize how silly you are being saying that it proves evolution? Do you?
You are basically saying that we as humans evolved separately throughout history. Even if one believes the great lie(evolution), you HAVE to believe in common ancestry, which means we are all of one blood.


If your post is directed to me I believe in creation.. I believe God created the earth.. I never said I didn't. You can not deny the fact that the earth is older that what the bible.. I feel God created it.. I don't think Christians can put on blinders and not except some scientists fact about the earths age. However I don't think the "theory’s" are correct.. Until proven..

When scientist come along and tell us thing they have proven I don't think as Christian we can just argue and say “nope you’re wrong. Now if it is still a theory that is another thing.

I believe in God and I believe in Jesus and I believe in the resurrection I believe in heaven and hell. And the gift of salvation! I just don't think because of the fact given to us the earth is as new as we "Christian think".

If there was a big bang God made it, then he put Adam and eve on it and so on!
I do not think we came from monkeys, Slim, or fish. I think God created us in his image.
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Posted: 10-17-07 15:13pm

Jincks013 wrote:
so what you are really saying is that you support the intelligent design model then? Why didn't you just say so?


wrong I believe in God.. I believe God made the earth.. But I believe if indeed there was a big bang he did it..
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Posted: 10-17-07 22:45pm

Theories are never "proven". They are either accepted ot disproved. Here is an example:

scientists see a species of bird. everywhere around the world they see this bird, and it is always white.

This is the white bird theory. They can NEVER prove 100% that this bird only comes in the color white. However, all of the data show white birds, so the "accepted theory" is that these birds are white.

It would only take 1 of these birds to show up gray or black or any other color to DISPROVE the theory.

Do you see the difference? A "theory" as used in science does NOT mean "best guess". A theory is an explanation of a set of data.

A "hypothesis" is more along the lines of what many of you (and others) think theory means. But theory is a lot more "proven" than a hypothesis.

In evolution, scientists have tons and tons of data showing fossils that show changes in species over time. for instance the whale.

The whale evolved from a hippopotamus-type land animal into the sea dwelling creature we know today. Scientists have stages and stages of fossils showing it's legs getting smaller, when it was called a "sea-cow", to today when there is only a tiny hind limb left, in what we call the "whale".

There are many examples of this progression, even in humans. That is the data. There is no question among scientists that species have evolved, because they have the physical specimens.

The "theory" part is, "HOW did these things evolve?" Darwin's "Natural Selection" is the theory. I can explain that if anyone is interested, and I can also explain the big bang in an anlogous fashion to this if anyone wants.

I hope this helps.
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Posted: 10-18-07 00:17am

THANK you. Very
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Posted: 10-18-07 02:35am

You are very welcome. Smile
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Posted: 10-18-07 08:06am

Mill.. your article lost me on "flood" the rest was 10th grade biology class. Prove this flood actually happened, second prove that this 'ark' existed.. now lets play logistics shall we?

1. Constructing a wooden ship the size of the ark in times of antiquity would require an enormous expenditure of labor and materials. Where did Noah, by all accounts an ordinary man, obtain the resources?

2. There are over a hundred thousand separate and distinct species of present day birds and land animals. It would be physically impossible for eight persons (Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives) to provide for the care and feeding of all the flies, termites, worms, snails, fleas, bats, frogs, spiders, bark beetles, intestinal parasites, etc, etc.

3. Don't forget the meat eating animals. How did Noah acquire the tons of meat required for the diet of all those lions, tigers, hyenas, wolves, etc? *Yes I know about the 7 pair of 'unclean' animals, I've taken it into account.
In order for predatory animals like lions, wolves, etc. to survive, they must be outnumbered by their prey by at least a hundred to one. If each grazing animal and each predatory animal were represented by a single pair, then either all the grazing animals would be immediately eaten, or the predatory animals would starve to death, or both. The only other alternative would be for Noah and his descendants to have enough fresh meat stored to feed generations of lions, tigers, wolves, hyenas, foxes, eagles, hawks, etc.

4. Many animals require special diets. Koalas eat only eucalyptus leaves. Aphids require fresh plants. How would Noah know about these dietary requirements, and how would he obtain food meeting these requirements?

5. The Bible states in Gen 7:4 that the ark was loaded in 7 days. The nine million species of animals extant would would have to board at a rate of 30 animals per second!

6. In spite of all the reported sightings of the ark on Mount Ararat, there hasn't been a single set of clear photographs showing the exact location and appearance of the ark. The alleged sightings have never been verified by any reputable organization, such as the National Geographic Society.

Ok. those quite legitamate questions come from another web site. http://home.comcast.ne t/~fsteiger/ark.htm if you are interested.. I read your review of 10th grade biology.. now answer my questions.
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Posted: 10-18-07 08:58am

One thing I have always wondered about, How so many countries have in their religion the story about an ark.. Unless it was passed down through the times.. How did it get there?
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Posted: 10-18-07 09:34am

There is geological evidence of a flood in the middle-eastern area around the time that many local cultures claim the "whole world" flooded. Obviously, to them the middle east WAS the whole world.

Was there an arc AS DESCRIBED in the bible? Maybe the boat itself. But not the animals, no. That part is completely impossible. They may have taken some grazing cows aboard, but that would be all they could have fit sanitarily. Maybe some goats, a few dogs, etc. The Arc is a really, really small boat!
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Posted: 10-18-07 12:57pm

meblonde01 wrote:
One thing I have always wondered about, How so many countries have in their religion the story about an ark.. Unless it was passed down through the times.. How did it get there?


Many mesopotamian cultures have flood stories. Mostly its the kings of those countries who board ships and are saved from this flood.
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Posted: 10-18-07 13:02pm

Eiri wrote:
There is geological evidence of a flood in the middle-eastern area around the time that many local cultures claim the "whole world" flooded. Obviously, to them the middle east WAS the whole world.

Was there an arc AS DESCRIBED in the bible? Maybe the boat itself. But not the animals, no. That part is completely impossible. They may have taken some grazing cows aboard, but that would be all they could have fit sanitarily. Maybe some goats, a few dogs, etc. The Arc is a really, really small boat!


Why is it COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE? But life out of ooze and mutating into complex...very complex creatures isnt?
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Posted: 10-18-07 13:04pm

dude.. just google it.
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Posted: 10-18-07 13:11pm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articl es/am/v2/n2/two-of-every-kind

Maybe you should read more than just what government funded institutions and athiestic groups spoonfeed.
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Posted: 10-18-07 13:14pm

meblonde01 wrote:
milletics wrote:
question solved. Heres your answer.
Read it for real. Dont pretend.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Are a/AnswersBook/races18.asp


And besides do you realize how silly you are being saying that it proves evolution? Do you?
You are basically saying that we as humans evolved separately throughout history. Even if one believes the great lie(evolution), you HAVE to believe in common ancestry, which means we are all of one blood.


If your post is directed to me I believe in creation.. I believe God created the earth.. I never said I didn't. You can not deny the fact that the earth is older that what the bible.. I feel God created it.. I don't think Christians can put on blinders and not except some scientists fact about the earths age. However I don't think the "theory’s" are correct.. Until proven..

When scientist come along and tell us thing they have proven I don't think as Christian we can just argue and say “nope you’re wrong. Now if it is still a theory that is another thing.

I believe in God and I believe in Jesus and I believe in the resurrection I believe in heaven and hell. And the gift of salvation! I just don't think because of the fact given to us the earth is as new as we "Christian think".

If there was a big bang God made it, then he put Adam and eve on it and so on!
I do not think we came from monkeys, Slim, or fish. I think God created us in his image.

What are some examples of "proven theories" that you believe?
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