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When And Why Did You Become Pc Or Pl?
Posted: 10-13-07 11:56am
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This question recently came up an a
different thread, and i thought it was
interesting enough to ask everybody.
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Posted: 10-13-07 12:39pm
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I was born, evolved, developed empathy,
learned about our world, and understood
why prochoice is the only answer.
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Posted: 10-13-07 13:18pm
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I've just always thought it was wrong. The
thought of taking a human life is
just...wrong to me. That is all. Maybe
someday I will understand pro-choice, but
not now.
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Posted: 10-13-07 14:13pm
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kaiteo, what do you mean exactly by human
life?
You don't mean human tissue, eggs, sperm,
etc, do you? What exactly constitutes
human life in your opinion?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:36pm
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An embryo is a human life. A fetus is a
human life.
Don't test me because you think it will
upset me.
When you are pregnant, there is a human
life inside of you.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:39pm
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| kaiteo
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When you are pregnant, there is a human
life inside of you. |
Indeed, it isn't another species but that
doen't mean women shouldn't have the right
to contro whether or not to continue with
it.
As to the original question I have always
been PC, more so when I found myself with
an unwanted prenancy whilst at university.
It was the best option for me and I was
pleased I was able to gain access to a
safe legal abortion.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:43pm
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An unwanted pregnancy? Meaning you weren't
in danger whatsoever?
So you had somebody kill your own child so
you could finish school. How selfish. That
disgusts me.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:44pm
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I just think that if you're gonna have a
baby, it should be a happy event. If it's
not, then you should have the right to not
have it. There's a bunch of stuff about
misogyny tied in there, but my first basic
beliefs were about that right to
happiness. If nobody involved is going to
be happy with the outcome, don't do it.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:45pm
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So if your child makes you upset and you
don't want to be a parent anymore, you
should be able to kill your child out of
the womb, also. Right?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:46pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | An unwanted pregnancy?
Meaning you weren't in danger whatsoever?
So you had somebody kill your own child so
you could finish school. How selfish. That
disgusts me. |
Closed minded people disgust me.
Yes it was unwanted, that is all you know
of my situation so please don't judge but
part of the reason was so I could
graduate, get my career and have children
when I was in a stable position to (as I
am now).
You don't think having a child is selfish?
You've never been selfish?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:48pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | | So if your child makes you
upset and you don't want to be a parent
anymore, you should be able to kill your
child out of the womb, also.
Right? |
I thought you didn't like it when people
took your beliefs way out of context to
provoke you. Why are you doing it to me?
If you really don't want to be a parent
anymore, then you shouldn't be. But since
the kid has been born in the scenario you
envision, and therefore is ...'escapable',
let's say, there are other options to
take. When you're pregnant? It's just you
and the foetus, for nine long miserable
months.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:49pm
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Everybody has been selfish at some time,
you know that. No, having a child is not
selfish.
In case you missed it, I'm pregnant. I
guess I'm selfish for creating a child of
my own?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:52pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | Everybody has been selfish
at some time, you know that. No, having a
child is not selfish.
In case you missed it, I'm pregnant. I
guess I'm selfish for creating a child of
my own? |
In case you missed it so am I but yes
having a child is selfish (there are many
posts on this)
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:53pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | Everybody has been selfish
at some time, you know that. No, having a
child is not selfish.
In case you missed it, I'm pregnant. I
guess I'm selfish for creating a child of
my own? |
Well, by carrying your own child, you're
forcing a kid who wasn't aborted to live
in care, so yeah, it could be interpreted
that way. There aren't many people who
WOULD interpret it that way, of course, so
we'll forget about that.
Congratulations, by the way. Oh, and to
you too, Moo! 
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:54pm
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It's not selfish in a bad way.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:55pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | | It's not selfish in a bad
way. |
I never said it was, that's how you
interpreted it. It isn't always a bad
thing to be selfish.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:56pm
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| Rodge
wrote: | | Well, by carrying your own
child, you're forcing a kid who wasn't
aborted to live in
care. |
Wait, what?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:57pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | | It's not selfish in a bad
way. |
Neither is abortion, then. Look at it as
giving a child a chance to be born to
parents that love it and want it, instead
of everyone being miserable forever.
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:57pm
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So abortion is selfish in a good way, Moo?
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Posted: 10-13-07 15:59pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | | So abortion is selfish in a
good way, Moo? |
It depends upon the situation entirely. It
was the responsible thing for me to do and
I think not bringing an unwanted child
into the world was a good thing given the
situation
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