I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
Most of us "tried" God, since most of us
are American and just going of of chance,
most of us were probably raised
Christian. I've been "saved" twice. Once I
was swept up by the emotion of a Christian
rock concern (add music to ANYTHING and
I'll probably be your puppet by the end)
and the other time I was at a Christian
camp and just wanted the poor counselor to
feel good about herself. Also so she'd
stop bugging me. Both times I came back
down to earth afterwards and went "wait...
what? this religion makes no sense and is
full of hate!"
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meblonde01
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Posted: 10-25-07 08:22am
Thanks for your answer Eiri.
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Tylanas
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Recently, I've sort-of come back to
Christianity but only in a very peripheral
sense. I take the bible with a grain of
salt, and look at it like people read the
teachings of Buddha. Most of his advice is
given via stories that never happened.
Buddha didn't do half the crazy things he
talks about; but the message is the point.
Obviously there is a LOT of the bible you
have to just outright ignore. I don't
consider myself christian at all, because
I don't believe jesus was the son of god,
I don't even believe IN god, and I don't
think the bible was divinely inspired. I
think it is a human work by human minds
and hands.
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marvel
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Posted: 10-25-07 09:30am
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
Most people don't change because they're
perfectly happy with their atheistic
beliefs (or any beliefs in general). Why
change what you're happy with?
Your question is like me asking you if
you've never tried Buddha or Mahavira or
Zarathustra, how do you know that their
respective ways aren't better for you? You
go with what, in your experience, makes
you happiest.
I personally grew up Catholic. Tried God,
been there, done that. Though I still have
beliefs in a higher purpose, I feel like I
have the wrong idea of what God is.
It/He/She isn't what I've been told. I
think that's why so many people leave
religion. It depicts God as something that
It/He/She isn't... almost hateful and so
judgmental... leftovers as a cronie in the
attempt to gain, consolidate and maintain
power in earlier days of politics and
Christianity.
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Posted: 10-25-07 11:25am
Jincks013
wrote:
Because I did and I decided
it was all moonshine and mirrors.. my
belief system makes sense to me; this "god
decides all; knows all; does all" yet
sends people to 'hell' when he knew in
advance what was going to happen doesn't
really appeal to me.
The Thorn Birds; flash to the after the
fire scene
Ralph de Bricassart: " see god saved this
house and this rose"
Meggie:"Then who brought the fire?"
This is symbolic of why I think that
religion is all moonshine and
mirrors.
OMG! ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE
MOVIES!!!!
I'm astonished and impressed that you can
spell Ralph's last name!
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Posted: 10-25-07 11:31am
marvel
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
Most people don't change because they're
perfectly happy with their atheistic
beliefs (or any beliefs in general). Why
change what you're happy with?
Your question is like me asking you if
you've never tried Buddha or Mahavira or
Zarathustra, how do you know that their
respective ways aren't better for you? You
go with what, in your experience, makes
you happiest.
I personally grew up Catholic. Tried God,
been there, done that. Though I still have
beliefs in a higher purpose, I feel like I
have the wrong idea of what God is.
It/He/She isn't what I've been told. I
think that's why so many people leave
religion. It depicts God as something that
It/He/She isn't... almost hateful and so
judgmental... leftovers as a cronie in the
attempt to gain, consolidate and maintain
power in earlier days of politics and
Christianity.
Good Point.. I guess some some people have
a need for some kind of peace in their
life.. so they look, some find God some
find something esle.. I know did.. Thanks
for your impute..
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Posted: 10-25-07 11:41am
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
It's very difficult to believe in a being
for whom there is no evidence. I wish I
could, though. It would be great if there
were an all powerful being up in the sky
looking after me.
But everytime something good happens, and
I say, Thank God, I remember all of the
people for whom something good did not
happen, and I realize the likelihood that
an all powerful being would single me out
to do something good for is HIGHLY
UNLIKELY.
And honestly, before I started debating
Christian pro-lifers, I was on the fence
about God. Now, after seeing what many of
these Christians have done in the name of
God, I don't want any part of it.
So much evil is done in the name of
religion that it is sickening. Religious
people seem to me most of them anyway, to
have a lot less empathy than the rest of
us, and that is why they are able to
inflict cruelty.
Forcing pregnancy and the horror and agony
of childbirth on anyone, especially young
girls, is a great example. Between the
illness and pain of being pregnant, to the
unspeakable torturous hours spent in agony
giving birth, it is more cruelty than we
allow to be inflicted on prisoners.
And for the sake of what? A half inch
clump of cells with no brain, with no
possible awareness or feelings? A clump
of cells that in 9 out of 10 cases
self-aborts ANYWAY? It is insane.
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Posted: 10-25-07 11:49am
marvel
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
Most people don't change because they're
perfectly happy with their atheistic
beliefs (or any beliefs in general). Why
change what you're happy with?
Your question is like me asking you if
you've never tried Buddha or Mahavira or
Zarathustra, how do you know that their
respective ways aren't better for you? You
go with what, in your experience, makes
you happiest.
I personally grew up Catholic. Tried God,
been there, done that. Though I still have
beliefs in a higher purpose, I feel like I
have the wrong idea of what God is.
It/He/She isn't what I've been told. I
think that's why so many people leave
religion. It depicts God as something that
It/He/She isn't... almost hateful and so
judgmental... leftovers as a cronie in the
attempt to gain, consolidate and maintain
power in earlier days of politics and
Christianity.
Exactly. I think Jesus would vomit if he
came back and saw what Catholicism was.
Especially what Catholics have done to
Jewish people (Jesus's own people) over
2000 years. The real or mythical Jesus
was 180 degrees opposite of what Catholics
and Fundamentalist Protestants are today.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-25-07 12:21pm
I tried God for a long time, and then I
rebelled against it 100%, and now I'm more
neutral as far as religion goes in
general.
God is not the answer for me.
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meblonde01
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Posted: 10-25-07 12:31pm
rebelled against
it.. Cute Georgia.. And don't take is
nasty I don't mean it that way.. It just
struck me as cute.. I thnik I do at
times myself!
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Posted: 10-25-07 12:34pm
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
You probably don't need to try satanic
cults out to know that they are not for
you, right?
I experience god everyday when I see the
sunset, pet my animals, feel love. I
don't need to adhere to a form of worship,
especially one so raped by human beings,
to experience god.
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Posted: 10-25-07 12:42pm
Birch
wrote:
meblonde01
wrote:
I would like to ask a
question. If you never tried God, how do
you know if his way of life is not better
for you? I mean this. At one time God was
not in my life.. So I have done as some of
you. No belief in God! And now I have him
in my life. So I have done both ways. Have
you? If not isn't it like saying you hate
squash and you never tasted it? I like God
in my life. Over not. If you don't, how do
you know if you never believed in him?
Gave your life to him and experienced
him?
You probably don't need to try satanic
cults out to know that they are not for
you, right?
I experience god everyday when I see the
sunset, pet my animals, feel love. I
don't need to adhere to a form of worship,
especially one so raped by human beings,
to experience
god.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-25-07 14:26pm
meblonde01
wrote:
rebelled against
it.. Cute Georgia.. And don't take is
nasty I don't mean it that way.. It just
struck me as cute.. I thnik I do at
times myself!
no offense taken. It was cute, I was young
and trying to assert myself and my
beliefs. Looking back on it, I
overreacted. But oh well.
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Posted: 06-17-08 12:59pm
milletics
wrote:
I think it proves Gods
existence.
Because for someone who doesnt exist, he
sure does get talked about
alot.
So does Harry Potter and
The Wizard of Oz and Gandolf and
Yoda....is that proof that they
exist..just because they get talked about
a lot...
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Posted: 06-17-08 18:37pm
homerx
wrote:
milletics
wrote:
I think it proves Gods
existence.
Because for someone who doesnt exist, he
sure does get talked about
alot.
So does Harry Potter and
The Wizard of Oz and Gandolf and
Yoda....is that proof that they
exist..just because they get talked about
a lot...
there is no proof to deny God, there is no
proof to say hes real but it is a belief
system.
My problem with the whole God "syndrom" is
there is many religions and many gods so
why do people only accept one and not
many?
All religions like to discredit another
religion but for religions that are so
loving, it makes you wonder why aren't
they loving and accepting of each other?
Why do they not intertwine and become one,
take all the best point of each religion
and make a better one, where everyone is
accepted equally, maybe I am abit of
anarchist but those are my beliefs.
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Posted: 06-17-08 18:49pm
diamondsz
wrote:
Why do they not intertwine and become one,
take all the best point of each religion
and make a better one, where everyone is
accepted equally, maybe I am abit of
anarchist but those are my
beliefs.
That would rock..no doubt. most wars and a
lot of crap is religion bassed so it would
be great if there was one big mix.
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Posted: 06-17-08 20:51pm
Personally I think it's because some
people can't keep their personal religion
out of any conversation. They're out to
convert everyone and they can't leave well
enough alone.
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Posted: 06-17-08 21:01pm
Darkmoon
wrote:
Personally I think it's
because some people can't keep their
personal religion out of any conversation.
They're out to convert everyone and they
can't leave well enough
alone.
rebelled against
it.. Cute Georgia.. And don't take is
nasty I don't mean it that way.. It just
struck me as cute.. 
