Im Starting to Get Mad.... Posted: 10-22-07 13:21pm
Ok well there goes another month down the
drain. I know that I shouldn't be that
upset because we didn't bd all that much
because I was sick at the begining of the
month. I didn't temp, had no idea when I
was ovulating, and still nothing. I
thought that if I decided to not pay
attention this month that I would have a
chance at catching that egg. It has
happened so much on here I thought it woud
work.
So I called my mom this morning and cried
to her about how upset I was and that God
isn't hearing my prayers, but he is
answering all the other ones I am praying
about. Its just not fair...She made me
calm down and tried to make me feel better
by telling me that it took her a year to
get pregnant with me. I have already been
trying for a full year minus the 4 months
I had to take a break. But since then it
has been 4 cycles.
Then to make matters worse, I had 3 people
ask me this weekend when we were going to
have kids. My ex is one of those people
who just had a baby 7 months ago. Another
one was a friend who we haven't seen in a
while and the other one was a complete
stranger that I had just met who felt
compelled to tell me all about her 5 month
old and then out of the blue asked me how
old I was and when we were going to have
kids.
And then this is much worse. We were out
at a party and this girl that was there
was three months pregnant (found this out
as we were leaving, or I wouldn't have
stayed) She was drinking a lot of beer,
smoking cigarettes, and the person who
told me she was pregnant told me that she
dows other hard drugs and takes pills.
HORRIBLE!!!! NOT FAIR!!! Why would
someone do that.
Sorry for the rant, but Im just on a
hormonal rollercoaster at the moment...
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Posted: 10-22-07 13:39pm
~BIG HUG~
I'm sorry. I really really am. It is such
a horrible rollercoaser, and it is just so
unfair sometimes. I've actually had to
reduce some of the forums that I was
modding on because I just can't deal with
it anymore. If it wasn't for you and some
of the other girls, I have no idea how I
would have gotten as far as I have.
I'm sorry that I have no real advice or
words of comfort. In all honesty, I think
it just gets worse by the day, some days
are better then others, but they are all
pretty bad. On the advice of Lee, I'm
going to look into a support group here in
town. (for this and other things) It might
be an idea for you to look into. While you
know I'm always here for you, sometimes
you need the person to person contact.
I know this might be a bad time to ask,
but have you and dh talked about what your
next step may be? Maybe look into clomid
or something along those lines. Have you
had an hsg?
~~~BIG HUG~~~
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Posted: 10-22-07 14:13pm
Sorry I didn't respond to your pm earlier
Christy, but this is what I was going to
tell you anyways...I knew you would
respond.
Yes we have talked about what to do now.
I know he is willing to go, but I think
its just me. I just keep thinking that it
will happen and we dont need all that. I
would love to start taking Clomid. I have
no idea what an HSG is...
I was supposed to go to the gyno for
another check up from my treatments, but
af decided she didn't want me to go to
that appointment. My plan was to print
out my charts and talk about my options
and see if they can prescribe me clomid.
This was going to be with another doctor
than the one I didnt like a while ago.
The other one didn't want to even talk
about procedures, she just wanted to refer
me to a reproductive endocrinologist right
away. I don't know if I want to just run
and go to that doctor without giving a
local one a chance first.
So I think that when I go on the first of
November that I will see what she has to
say. She is alot nicer than the other
doctor. I really want to try Clomid, but
I don't know if they would prescribe it to
me.
Can you tell me more about the HSG??? Who
can do it, where is it done, does
insurance likely cover it?
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Posted: 10-22-07 14:24pm
I tried to write my own explanation, but
it just didn't make sence, lol. So I found
this on webmd. It is a pretty basic
procedure that they tend to do right after
the blood tests. My regular gyn could do
it, but she referred me out to the RE so
she said it would be better if they did
it. Because you are ovulating monthly, you
can tell by your temps and your lp looks
good to me. An hsg might be a good next
step, to make sure there is no tubal
blockage. Not saying there is...I just
think they may want to do this before they
put you on meds. It's probably the first
thing I will do at with my new doctor.
A
hysterosalpingogram (HSG) is an X-ray test
that looks at the inside of the uterus and
fallopian tubes and the area around them.
It often is done for women who are having
a hard time becoming pregnant
(infertile).
During a hysterosalpingogram, a dye
(contrast material) is put through a thin
tube that is put through the vagina and
into the uterus. Because the uterus and
the fallopian tubes are hooked together,
the dye will flow into the fallopian
tubes. Pictures are taken using a steady
beam of X-ray (fluoroscopy) as the dye
passes through the uterus and fallopian
tubes. The pictures can show problems such
as an injury or abnormal structure of the
uterus or fallopian tubes, or a blockage
that would prevent an egg moving through a
fallopian tube to the uterus. A blockage
also could prevent sperm from moving into
a fallopian tube and joining (fertilizing)
an egg. A hysterosalpingogram also may
find problems on the inside of the uterus
that prevent a fertilized egg from
attaching (implanting) to the uterine
wall. See an illustration of a
hysterosalpingogram.
Why It Is Done
A hysterosalpingogram is done to:
Find a blocked fallopian tube. The test
often is done for a woman who is having a
hard time becoming pregnant. An infection
may cause severe scarring of the fallopian
tubes and block the tubes, preventing
pregnancy. Occasionally the dye used
during a hysterosalpingogram will push
through and open a blocked tube.
Find problems in the uterus, such as an
abnormal shape or structure, an injury,
polyps, fibroids, adhesions, or a foreign
object in the uterus. These types of
problems may cause painful menstrual
periods or repeated miscarriages.
See whether surgery to reverse a tubal
ligation has been successful.
It sounds scary, but its really not and a
few of the girls here have had it done.
Like I said, it's a pretty common
procedure. As for your insurance covering
it, that's a tough one. I'm not really
sure...are they going to cover your RE if
you go to one?
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Posted: 10-22-07 14:54pm
Probably not. I don't know though, i
haven't talked to anyone about it yet. I
was just wondering if that is a common
procedure that might not be linked to
infertility that might be covered.
As far as the bloodwork goes. I have
recently had some done, but not sure it it
was the right kind. Last year, and again
in two weeks, I will be having a full
physical for work where they do a whole
blood work up. Also, I had more bloodwork
done when I went to the doctor in July.
They wanted to test my thyroid because
they thought it might have been causing my
illness.
Do you think that the results from these
might help?
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Posted: 10-22-07 15:16pm
It might. I know that the blood work for
your thyroid will be helpful. That is a
common test done for fertility. Honestly,
I'm not sure what all they will do. I've
had alot of bloodwork done so far, but I'm
not ovulating (I might be today though)
and they needed to figure out why.
(actually, it was to figure out why I
hadn't had my period) I know that they
normally test your lh, thyroid, something
else that has to do with egg
quality/amount and progesterone. Then, if
it looks like your ovulating (like you)
and have had well timed bd (like you) they
normally do the hsg to make sure there
would be nothing stopping the egg and
spermies meeting. Once that is clear they
go on to Clomid to help with ovulation.
Past that is when you get into the IUI's
and what not.
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Posted: 10-24-07 13:38pm
Can I butt in here. Star, I know you are
a bit hesitant to get into the whole
infertility treatment but it never hurts
to make an appointment and just see what
your options are. You can decide what you
do and don't want to proceed with. My
doctor was willing to give me clomid after
only 5 months of trying (we had trouble
with our first pregnancy as well). I
didn't want to go that route and it took
me 14 months to decide to go ahead and do
it. I wish I would have tried it sooner.
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Posted: 10-24-07 15:04pm
Abbysmom - I don't know if I know your
name...Sorry!
Thanks for that, I think I do need a push
every now and then.
I was supposed to go for my checkup from
my treatments on Monday, but Im going next
Thursday instead becuase stupid af came.
I plan on taking my charts and im going to
ask if I can be put on clomid.
You got pregnant your first month of
clomid right? how is your pregnancy going
by the way?
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Posted: 10-24-07 15:06pm
I just called to schedule my RE appt
today. So, we can be on almost the same
schedule, probably! I'll be right here
going through the same stuff with you, so
don't be afriad.
I'm hoping to get my bfp while waiting to
go. I heard it is a pretty good feritlity
enhancer...you know....finally getting up
the courage to go to the doctor. lol.
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Posted: 10-24-07 15:10pm
Christy, is your insurance paying for
anything? I dont even know if I can go
have a consultation with an re without
paying out of pocket. I have to call my
insurance company
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Posted: 10-24-07 15:14pm
Actually, one of the girls that I work
with said that when she was going to an RE
(she doesn't know I'm ttc) that our
insurance covered everything. She thought
that maybe they just didn't catch what
kind of doctor she was going to. She said
the only thing they wouldn't cover was the
actual procedures (IUI, Egg Retreivals,
S/A'as) Stuff along those lines. But they
covered all the doctors appt. and the
prescriptions. However, my benefits book
says they don't cover anything
'infetility' but Clomid is listed in my
'prescription' book with a $ next to it
(so it's not that expensive. )
At this point I'm 100% willing to pay out
of pocket though. I know that this doctor
give you a 'menu' with prices. So, at most
I will be out the consultation fee and
thats it. If everything will be to much,
then I'll just go back on birth control.
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Posted: 10-24-07 15:27pm
Yeah me to, and dh and I talked about it
and he said, well if thats what we have to
spend our money on then thats what we will
do. So that made me feel better.
This is what it says for our insurance
Infertility and Sexual Dysfunction
Services
Up to $5000 per Lifetime
Coverage will be provided for the
following services:
*Testing and treatment services performed
in connection with an underlying medical
condition
* Testing performed specifically to
determine the cause of infertility.
Treatment and/or procedures performed
specifically to restore fertility (eg.
procedures to correct an infertility
condition.
It also says that it does not cover
Infertility services, surgical or medical
treatment programs for infertility,
incluing IVF, GIFT, ZIFT, variations of
these procedures, and any costs associated
with the collection, washing, preparation
or storage of sperm for artificial
insemination.
I HATE insurancce and I never know what
they do and don't cover, and Im
embarrassed to talk to a stranger on the
phone about that
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Posted: 10-25-07 07:41am
I just heard back from the RE office to
schedule the appointment. It is December
5th. That feels like forever away.
Anyways, I was speaking with the new
patient coordinator on the phone (after a
20min quesitonaire) And she asked if I had
called my insurance about whether they
cover infertility. I told her that I
didn't think they did, and that we would
be paying out of pocket. She told me that
I need to call my insurance and tell them
that I am have a consultation and to ask
if they cover a consultation and
diagnostics. She said I may be surprised.
At least I know what to ask about now.
Before, I would have just said infertility
and they would have said 'nope'.
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Posted: 10-27-07 13:57pm
I finally went to my first RE appt on
Monday. I'll write another thread about
it.
Basically, I've been spening very little
time on-line because so much of my free
time is taken up dealing with insurance.
I was in insurance hell a few weeks ago.
Our insurance covers 50% of infertility
tests and procedures, including IUI and
IVF. But before we could go to the
initial consulation, I had to ask my PCP
to request authorization from the
insurance company. That was a big pain
because I got my RE referral from my
OB/GYN. I spent so much time on the phone
trying to get everyone the information
they needed and it seemed like no one did
anything unless I was on the phone with
them.
The worst was about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I
called the insurance company to see if
there was any progress on the
authorization as I had only a few days
before going out of town on business and
my RE appt was right away. I sat on hold
for thirty minutes before finally spoke to
someone. She then put me on hold again to
check with another department. She came
back on about five minutes before I was
supposed to go to a seminar (I was at
work). She told me that they had rejected
the information they had and I had to go
back to my PCP.
I completely broke down and started
bawling on the phone. I complained about
how hard they make things during such an
emotional time in a persons life. It
hurts so much when you try so hard to get
pregnant and can't. I said that her
company's handling of infertility coverage
just intensifies that pain. Then I
demanded that she call my PCP and explain
exactly what they need. At that point she
started acting more sympathetic. She put
me on hold and called my PCP. By the end
of the day, I had my authorization. It
took over a month!
By that point, I was five minutes late for
the seminar and in no condition to go. I
knew that I didn't want to deal with
questions about why I wasn't there and I
didn't want to show up in that condition.
So I composed myself (it took 15 minutes)
and went to the seminar late.
No matter how much coverage you get from
your insurance company, I hope they treat
you a lot better than our insurance
company has treated me.
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:34pm
THat sounds like what I will probably be
going through in the next few weeks.
I just (yesterday) got my forms to fill
out for the Re. Holy piles of paper work!
It is crazy. Anyways, one of the papers
said the if you are paying out of pocket
it will be $220-300 just for the
consultation, that isn't including the
ultrasound (which they do the same day) or
the lab work (ditto). It was a little
more then what I was thinking. So it could
easily cost me close to $700 just for that
day, not to actually fix anything.
So, I will be pressing my insurance
company for real answers. Heather, I will
let you know what all they cover, just to
give you an idea. I have blue cross and
blue shield ppo, by the way.
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Posted: 10-27-07 22:28pm
Mine is Cigna ppo...
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Abbysmom
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Posted: 11-04-07 14:06pm
Star - Sorry it has taken me so long to
get back to you. I don't get online that
often anymore. I got pregnant on my
second round of clomid. The pregnancy has
been going well.
I feel for all you ladies who are
struggling with insurance. I was able to
get my clomid from my regular OB and
didn't have to go to an RE.
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shortgeek
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Posted: 11-08-07 22:24pm
Well, now my insurance company has said
that they need the results of my husbands
SA before I can get tested at all. Since
I'm probably ovulating this weekend, he is
unlikely to get the SA for about a week.
I hope there will be enough time for the
insurance company to get the results and
make a determination before my next FSH
and HSG opportunities. My next FSH will
be within three weeks.
I have to keep telling myself not to get
stressed about the tests. I looked at a
calendar. Assuming 27 day cycles, I'll be
ovulating this weekend, then on vacation
in December, and potentially on a business
trip in January. Realistically, my first
possible treatment cycle now looks like
late January. That would give us two more
cycles for my tests.
)
It was a little
more then what I was thinking. So it could
easily cost me close to $700 just for that
day, not to actually fix anything.
