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Would Love Really Work? Posted: 10-23-07 10:05am


I went to see Patch Adams speak last night. I had seen him speak about 10 years ago. It was completely amazing. I wish I could even give you some clue as to what it was like, but I couldn't possibly begin to reiterate what he said. It was completely moving. In addition to speaking about the health care issue in America, he spoke about loving. His answer to the violence and atrocities in the world is for everyone to simply love everyone else. It's so simplistic in design, but what a profound difference it would make in the world if this really happened. He suggested that everyone just sit for five minutes and really really imagine what it would be like if we truly loved everyone. Despite differences and things we don't like, but looking past that and truly loving people. If you ever have a chance to see him speak, I reccommend it. It is truly life changing if you allow it to be.

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Posted: 10-23-07 10:41am


I think the hitch would come from someone trying to love a person who did them harm. I don't think I would ever forgive or love someone if they killed a member of my family. The thought is of course that this person also loves your family so s/he would never think of killing them, but we know things like this never happen all at once.

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Posted: 10-23-07 11:32am


I... can't. I wish I could.

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Posted: 10-23-07 11:39am

Eiri wrote:

I think the hitch would come from someone trying to love a person who did them harm. I don't think I would ever forgive or love someone if they killed a member of my family. The thought is of course that this person also loves your family so s/he would never think of killing them, but we know things like this never happen all at once.

Yes. But if that person was like everyone else and loved everyone then he would have never killed in the first place.

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Posted: 10-23-07 12:06pm


i think of it this way i could NEVER EVER EVER understand or love a person whom killed my daughter never never ever ever

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Posted: 10-23-07 12:16pm

the_girlfreind wrote:

i think of it this way

i could NEVER EVER EVER understand or love a person whom killed my daughter
never

never ever ever

Yes yes, of course not.

But the point of the OP was that if everyone loved everyone, no one would have the need to kill anyone.

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Posted: 10-23-07 12:18pm

Marianne0558 wrote:

the_girlfreind wrote:

i think of it this way

i could NEVER EVER EVER understand or love a person whom killed my daughter
never

never ever ever

Yes yes, of course not.

But the point of the OP was that if everyone loved everyone, no one would have the need to kill anyone.

i could never imagine that happening
there are too many different people and backrounds and opinions
if everyone loved everyone
then there would be too much freaking love going around
and wed all go crazy

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Posted: 10-23-07 12:19pm


Yeah, it would never actually happen. It's hypothetical.

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Posted: 10-23-07 12:57pm


no, I don't think so. Like Eiri was saying, just because you love someone doesn't mean you would make the best choices for them or never do them harm. Like your kids, for example, you love them and would never hurt them. But there might come a situation where you did cause them harm but didn't know you would. such as treat them for an illness in the wrong way because you think it would work better but it actually made them worse, stuff like that. And even if you love everybody, you can't save everybody.

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Re: Would Love Really Work?
Posted: 10-23-07 13:25pm

sillyakchick wrote:

I went to see Patch Adams speak last night. I had seen him speak about 10 years ago. It was completely amazing. I wish I could even give you some clue as to what it was like, but I couldn't possibly begin to reiterate what he said. It was completely moving. In addition to speaking about the health care issue in America, he spoke about loving.

His answer to the violence and atrocities in the world is for everyone to simply love everyone else. It's so simplistic in design, but what a profound difference it would make in the world if this really happened. He suggested that everyone just sit for five minutes and really really imagine what it would be like if we truly loved everyone. Despite differences and things we don't like, but looking past that and truly loving people.

If you ever have a chance to see him speak, I reccommend it. It is truly life changing if you allow it to be.

I think this could work if it was added that people weren't allowed to lie.

I'm sure that was amazing...I'll have to see if he'll ever come my way...

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Posted: 10-23-07 14:09pm


just google patch adams (not the movie) and you can see all of the amazing things he has been up to...

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Posted: 10-23-07 15:20pm


I try to love everyone and everything. I'm a very mellow person, these days. And I didn't even have to find God!

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Posted: 10-23-07 15:26pm


There are many tragedies not caused by hate.

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Posted: 10-23-07 16:05pm

Rodge wrote:

I try to love everyone and everything. I'm a very mellow person, these days. And I didn't even have to find God! Very
Happy

lol we can all tell by your avatar photo! Very
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Posted: 10-23-07 17:49pm

Marianne0558 wrote:

Eiri wrote:

Yes. But if that person was like everyone else and loved everyone then he would have never killed in the first place.

That's what I said :/

"The thought is of course that this person also loves your family so s/he would never think of killing them."

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Posted: 10-24-07 00:14am


Heh this is one of the few topics on the general debates that I can actually side with. No, to love all will not work. It never will, and it never should. There needs to be differences, there needs to be troubles between each other, and hatred between each other. A balance must be maintained. As sentimentally sweet this notion may be, it would never work, like communism -_-.

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Posted: 10-24-07 07:07am


Love would only work if everyone had the same personality and everyone agreed with each other all the time.

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Posted: 10-24-07 07:42am


Well, I'm going to try it anyway. I don't think you have to agree with someone to love them. Look at our parents. I certainly don't always agree with them, but I love them anyway. And my kids. I think with love, it's easier to forgive when things happen.

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Posted: 10-24-07 08:38am


Maybe I'm cold hearted, but as far as person-to-person relations, some things should not be forgiven. Obviously you can't go blaming sons for the sins of the fathers and having wars for centuries because your great great great great grandfather got called a ninny by my great great great grandfather. But I would never expect someone to forgive a rapist or a child molester or a killer.

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Posted: 10-24-07 11:05am


Forgiveness is an amazing thing. The forgiver often gets more out of it than the forgiven.