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Posted: 10-23-07 17:12pm
EMILY-
Even without outbreaks, he can still
spread it to you. IF he took VALTREX
everyday for 'suppressive therapy', his
risk of spreading it you is only about 5%
Daily suppressive therapy HIGHLY prevents
the spread of genital herpes.
NO, A C-SECTION is not standard treatment
for pregannt women with herpes. They
recommend women who are pregannt take
suppressive therapy to prevent outbreaks.
I got genital herpes from my husband, and
it is not the end of the world for me. I
take suppressive therapy and do not have
outbreaks.
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Rosie H
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Posted: 10-23-07 17:15pm
Carifairy
wrote:
EMILY-
Even without outbreaks, he can still
spread it to you. IF he took VALTREX
everyday for 'suppressive therapy', his
risk of spreading it you is only about 5%
Daily suppressive therapy HIGHLY prevents
the spread of genital herpes.
NO, A C-SECTION is not standard treatment
for pregannt women with herpes. They
recommend women who are pregannt take
suppressive therapy to prevent outbreaks.
I got genital herpes from my husband, and
it is not the end of the world for me. I
take suppressive therapy and do not have
outbreaks.
Hello, what meds do you take?
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Carifairy
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Posted: 10-23-07 17:33pm
I take 800mg of ACYCLOVIR a day, which is
generic Zovirax Pills.
For me, it is just as effective as
Valtrex, BUT MUCH cheaper. My insurance
only covers a 'percentage' of RX meds, and
Valtrex is still HIGH $$ with my coverage.
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Rosie H
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Posted: 10-23-07 17:37pm
yeah thats what I take but it dryed me
out. No matter what we did I couldnt get
wet during foreplay or sex. And my
insurance is the same for me, valtrex is
way too expensive. Thanks
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emilyallen
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Transmission Posted: 10-23-07 18:33pm
So if my boyfriend is on suppression daily
valtrex and we only have sex with condoms
when he has no signs of an outbreak, my
chances of getting it are very slim right?
Like as slim as getting pregnant? Also,
does the shedding occur where his
outbreaks occur? If his outbreaks were on
the upper portion of his penis would that
make me less likely to get it since that
area is more covered by a condom than his
lower shaft area?
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Carifairy
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Posted: 10-23-07 19:40pm
RIGHT, your chAnces are SLIM.
Think of valtrex like you think of birth
control.. It is not 100%, but it is VERY
VERY effective.
Shedding occurs most DEFINITELY during an
outbreak, but it also occurs randomly
without an outbreak.
Daily therapy prevents this shedding, and
it prevents it very very well.
"If his outbreaks were on the upper
portion of his penis would that make me
less likely to get it since that area is
more covered by a condom than his lower
shaft area?"
No, because Herpes is a SKIN TO SKIN
contact disease, so technically it does
not matter.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 10-23-07 19:42pm
My husband did not know he ever had
herpes, as he never had outbreaks.
I got herpes from him after we had been
sleeping together for 3 months.
If you used condoms, AND he was on daily
therapy, there would be about a 99% chnace
that you would not get genital herpes.
It would be slim.
AS a side note... Herpes is not that BAD
IMO, daily therapy means I do not
outbreak, so I am not affected by it.
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sadie1
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Re: My Boyfriend Has Genital Herpes Posted: 10-25-07 03:07am
It must have taken alot of guts for your
boyfriend to tell you he had herpes...so
early in the relationship. I would be
scared to death if someone told me
that.... I probably would have to break it
off... it is your choice...but I don't
think I would have sex with him knowing
that I was at risk of getting it. That
would be a life long STD.. I have friends
that have it and they say it is awful. How
old are you? Do you think this will be a
long lasting relationship? I hope you
think about what the outcome may be before
you decide... Good luck.
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Posted: 10-25-07 08:23am
I'm glad the advice the OP got initially
was more caring and open-minded than that.
Certainly I'd be put-off as well, but if
I'm in a relationship where I'm ready to
have sex with the person, even AIDS
wouldn't turn me away.
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Rosie H
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Posted: 10-25-07 09:24am
Everything is as bad as you make it.
Herpes doesnt and isnt that bad. Yeah it
sucks but with medication you can
virtually have no outbreaks. Its a life
long STD but it doesnt stop the important
things in life, life children, love, sex,
friends.
If you go around thinking its this
horrible sick disease thats there no cure
for and my sex life is over and no one
will want me, then that how its going to
be.
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Woodrow
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Posted: 10-25-07 18:54pm
I think it's time for you to move on. If
you're this contemplative of the issue
now, you'll be unhappy down the road. You
obviously have high standards...and that
is a matter insufficiently discussed
here. It's not just about being
afflicted.
If you let your fellow down, be gracious,
mature, and firm about it. He deserves
special consideration for being forthright
in his disclosure to you.
Marital candidates with problems often
seek mates with similar problems, for this
very reason. There is plenty of precedent
on this.
And don't let anyone poo-poo your concern,
by telling you "it's nothing." Set your
own standards, and don't let anyone else
do that for you.
Of course, you'll have to hold up those
standards for future candidates,
obviously. Don't be embarrassed to demand
blood tests. There are plenty of reasons
to be careful. You are valuable; don't
allow yourself to be intimidated, and
don't sell yourself short.
And I recommend chastity, until marriage,
commensurate with your platform of
responsibility.
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emilyallen
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to Woodrow Posted: 10-25-07 19:18pm
While I appreciate your advice and respect
your belief in not having pre-marital sex,
I believe that having a sexual
relationship before you get married is a
huge part of intimacy and something that I
think is important to discover and share
before you decide to spend the rest of
your life with someone. Over the last few
days I have come to understand that with a
condom, suppression therapy and safe sex
practices, my chances of getting herpes is
as low as 5% or less. The man I am in a
relationship with is not by any means
someone who sleeps around and is
irresponsible. No one asks to get herpes.
He just unfortunately got it. I am not
going to hold that against him. It doesn't
change who he is as a person or how I feel
about him. You are right though, I do have
high standards and want the best life for
myself which includes being healthy. I am
putting sex on hold for now with him until
I feel more comfortable, and feel out
where our relationship is going.
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cirenys
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Been There...done That Posted: 10-25-07 22:23pm
Some years ago I met my ex and instanly
falled in love with him. And I contracted
herpes without sexual intercourse. How?
Well the regular coldsores are herpes type
1 and you can acctualy get herpes 2 from
that. He did not have an outbreak and did
not even know he had herpes type one.
ABout a week after having oral sex I felt
like I was getting the flu, had throat
infection and little white spots appeared
in my vagina. That was 2005 and after that
BAD breakout I've never has one. I was
never diagnosed beause its kinda hard to
tell when you heal completely...I wish you
the best...do some research about it and
you will find out that a huge percent of
the population has it...
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Posted: 10-25-07 23:04pm
Daily suppressive therapy makes herpes NOT
AWFUL!
Nothing happens, I do not outbreak at all!
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Woodrow
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Begging to Differ Posted: 10-30-07 13:50pm
So, Emilyallen, you're putting sex on
hold. Probably a good idea.
I'm not going to offer any arguments on
conventional morality here, just practical
(and unsolicited) advice. Because I
happen to believe that rules of morality
ultimately descended from practical
discoveries, anyway. Some moral rules,
like avoidance of pork, are now obsolete,
while comparatively recent epidemiological
realities render conventional morality to
be itself obsolete, anyway.
Firstly, your argument that sex in advance
of marriage is some sort of necessary
trial, for compatibility, is a thinly
veiled excuse for passionate, even
reckless, behavior. It's a pretty safe
bet that two people who are attracted to
each other, physically, before marriage,
will find sex to be about the easiest
thing they will ever agree on.
Conversely, do you expect to dump your
boyfriend if he, say, can't last long
enough to satisfy your sexual desires?
Probably not. You'll find some remedy,
and keep the boyfriend (or husband).
If you're really interested in testing
compatibility, why not explore the
difficult subjects like finance,
child-raising, and tolerating
objectionable in-laws? Then there are
issues of behavior, such as how well each
of you respects the other's ability to
deal with stressful situations. Some
folks can't even agree on how to celebrate
a holiday, AFTER children are in the
picture. It's oh-so-easy when there are
just two of you.
It's easy when both of you are working,
and there's plenty of money sloshing
around. (That's when people hang out
there shingles to find a partner.) It
gets tougher when a couple can't agree on
how much sacrifice, even austerity, might
be tolerable, for the deferred reward of
home ownership, etc.
Sexual habits before marriage are a pretty
good indicator of how high a price each
party puts on his or her own physical and
psychological well-being. Easy lay, low
price. Nobody "asks" to get an STD; it's
a consequence of reckless behavior. And
I'm not taking that word, "reckless,"
back, because, if you price your health
correctly, there is no lesser adjective
that applies. Ditto for smoking and
motor-cycle riding. Ask any ER doctor.
Meanwhile, here's what's happening in much
of our world...more of this to come...
Unless you plan to live for the moment,
you might as well expect more of this.
The world of "sex without consequences"
lasted but a few years, about 40 years
ago.
http://news.bbc.co
.uk/2/hi/africa/5031378.stm
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-30-07 15:29pm
She really just wanted medical advice, not
ethical. We don't judge here, but offer
unbiased medical advice so people aren't
afraid to ask.
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Woodrow
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Re: My Boyfriend Has Genital Herpes Posted: 10-31-07 07:55am
emilyallen
wrote:
...I am still scared. I feel
like I have to decide between him and
living with the risk of getting herpes
that would effect the rest of my life. I
don't know what to do.
Help.
Only asking medical advice? Seems to me
her petition was more encompassing than to
merely ask someone how to tell the dude to
put a condom on. As such, I feel
justified to argue for a course of action
that nobody else here dares to suggest.
Abstinence is a always a medical solution
to risky behavior, anyway. (At least
until the horse is out of the stable.)
And "abstinence" can include permanent
abstinence from a certain individual, as
well.
What's more, medical well-being starts
with personal standards. Ask any
insurance underwriter. That's why life
insurance is more expensive for
practitioners of hang gliding.
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Jude1981
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Still there...? Posted: 03-31-08 07:54am
Emily? This situation is happening to me
right now. Your concerns and thoughts
sounded very familiar to me... I
empathize with the guy I'm dating, but I
know I need to look out for myself first
and foremost. However, I haven't felt
this strongly about someone in a really
LONG time. What did you decide to do
about your situation?
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Jude1981
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Update, please Posted: 04-01-08 08:12am
Emily, your situation sounds very
familiar. I have found myself in the same
place. A guy I'm seeing told me after 6
weeks of seeing eachother. I find it so
frustrating because I like him a lot. We
connect on lots of different levels, but I
don't want to put myself at risk. Do you
have an update or any advice? I would
appreciate either.
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Posted: 04-01-08 17:34pm
Just wanted to add this:
the good thing about herpes is, it doesn't
get worse! Other std's put women at risk
for much worse conditions, like cancer or
pid (which can lead to fertility).
However, herpes doesn't do this!! It's
just annoying! My opinion- if you love
someone, it's worth the risk (especially
since there are things you can do to
minimize the risk)