Marfa2107
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Oedipus Theory!
Posted: 10-31-07 13:18pm
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Freud using the story "Oedipus the King"
to form his "Oedipus Theory"
do you guys believe in this theory?
the theory states that:
"throughout a boys life he will, at one
point, compete with his father for the
love of his mother, even wanting to kill
his father at one point"
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Posted: 10-31-07 13:43pm
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could go ethir way, the boy could compete
w/ his mother for his fathers love.
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Marfa2107
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Posted: 10-31-07 13:48pm
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but the theory states that the boy will
compete with his father (even be compelled
to kill) for his mother's love
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Posted: 10-31-07 13:58pm
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I don't believe most of Freud. He was a
crackpot lol.
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Posted: 10-31-07 13:59pm
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well we are doing "Oedipus the King" in my
literature class
and i just wanted know what everyone else
thought about this
i thought it was interesting after reading
the play
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Posted: 10-31-07 13:59pm
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The play is certainly interesting lol.
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Marfa2107
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Posted: 10-31-07 14:01pm
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yeah it's really weird..
but it kept me interested
=)
and then my professor talked about Freud
and his theory
and i thought that was really interesting
=)
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Posted: 10-31-07 15:24pm
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I don't believe in the oedipus/electra
complex. I just don't buy the idea of
young kids 'desiring' their
mothers/fathers, even if it is
subconscious. I don't like the idea of
penis envy as well, as it suggests that
women are inferior to men.
But I do agree with Freud's psychodynamic
theory of personality, like the oral
stage, anal stage etc. I can accept that
because you can sort of see it (i.e.
smokers were over/under indulged at the
oral stage etc).
But no, for the oedipus thing. Not for me.
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Posted: 10-31-07 16:29pm
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Freud's psychological theories have many
faults such as limiting his studies to one
very specific culture. They cannot be
applied across the board. However, as the
founder of psychoanalysis, he had some
good ideas. I don't know enough about the
Oedipus theory to expound on that.
| Eiri
wrote: | | I don't believe most of
Freud. He was a crackpot
lol. |
Actually, he was a "coke-pot". 
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Posted: 10-31-07 16:35pm
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Didn't Freud also say something about how
all women have penis envy? Something to
that effect? (Please feel free to correct
me, someone.)
My e-penis is HUGE, by the way. 
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Posted: 10-31-07 16:36pm
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Yep, they did.
Here's another one: his theories can't be
proved...or disproved. I don't believe
that I had sexual feelings for my dad when
I was little, but Freud would explain this
as denial, which is a defence mechanism to
protect the ego. And, these 'feelings' are
unconscious so how would anybody know if
they had them or not if they weren't aware
of them??
So, just believe what you want, in this
case!
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Posted: 10-31-07 18:03pm
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I'll go with that, Birch- Freud was a
coke-pot.
I don't buy most of his theories such as
this one.
You can't disprove the existence of santa
clause either, that doesn't make me
willing to believe in him.
I believe Freud opened some important
doors, but that's about it.
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Posted: 10-31-07 18:06pm
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what about women will marry men that are
like their fathers
and men will marry women who are like
their mothers?
does anyone believe this?
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Posted: 10-31-07 22:04pm
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No, sorry lol. My hubby is very different
than my dad.
I can see if you really idolized your
parents that you can look for someone
similar to them, but I think it's more of
a personality thing than unconscious
desire thing.
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Posted: 10-31-07 22:18pm
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| Marfa2107
wrote: | what about women will marry
men that are like their fathers
and men will marry women who are like
their mothers?
does anyone believe
this? |
It does happen, but so? That means the
girl has respect for people like her
father OR that she doesn't know how to
receive love from men in any other way
than what she experienced from her father
(in cases like abusive father leads to
abusive husbands)
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Posted: 11-01-07 11:56am
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Note: when I said his theory can't be
disproved, I meant it as a flaw, not a
'believe this cuz you can't prove it
wrong' type of thing. So you can really
choose whether or not you want to believe
it lol.
And yes, he does mention that women have
penis envy, because of the electra
complex, where a young girl believes she
used to have a penis but was castrated and
she then desires her father because he
will provide her with a penis so she
identifies with the mother to get closer
to the dad etc etc....
or something to that effect.
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Posted: 11-02-07 07:53am
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A theory that cannot be disproved is not a
valid theory, that's what you are trying
to say, right, Lion?
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Posted: 11-02-07 08:27am
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It's just a flaw. All theories have flaws.
It doesn't make it right or wrong, and as
much as it can't be disproved it can't be
proved either, which is the case for most
theories.
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Posted: 11-02-07 16:11pm
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The original poster forgot to leave the
implication of Freud's Oedipus Complex
(the female version being called Elektra
Complex (a similar story from way back
like Oedipus)) theory. Where a son is
sexually interested in gaining his
mother's love, and competitive with his
father.
Uuh No, bluntly put, I think he just
thought his mom was a MILF and couldn't
see how anybody else could see otherwise,
so he wrote up a paper to tell the world
of his beliefs.
He has some interesting theories, which I
can correlate with, such as what is known
as the Freudian Slip, or his dream
theories.
Penis Envy and Oedipus, no.
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Marfa2107
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Posted: 11-02-07 16:15pm
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I just put in what my professor had told
us bc we had just studied 'oedipus the
king' he never mentioned the electra
complex thats why i didnt mention it...
And by no means do i believe any of
this..just wanted to see what everyones
feelings were
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