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Tylanas
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What Is the Definition of Pro-choice?
Posted: 11-01-07 22:41pm
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Yes, I realise you can just go down to the
pro-choice forum and see our ideals
written out so it's not a major mystery
(unlike pro-life ideals). Still, as a
sister-thread to the pro-life one, I'd
like to see what (primarily) pro-lifers
think being pro-choice is all about.
Try to be unbiased. Try to post ideals you
think ALL pro-choicers adhere to. Pretend
for a moment that you are pro-choice and
you're trying to explain your ideals to
someone else. That's how I did my post on
the pro-life thread.
Listing them is helpful, and having a
section for "all pro-choicers believe
this", one for "some pro-choicers believe
this" and an extra section or things you
couldn't classify is nice and clear.
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Posted: 11-02-07 06:29am
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I don't even think there should be a name
like "pro-choice", because it is not
really "pro" anything.
It's not "anti"-anything, either. And the
things that you could say it is "pro" for,
shouldn't even have to be stated, like,
"pro-women's control over their own
bodies." That's crazy to have to even say
that. It''s like "pro-breathing".
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Posted: 11-02-07 06:53am
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Pro choice.. the belief that the woman
alone has the right to decide how and when
her bodily resources are used. Freedom to
choose is probably more apt.
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Posted: 11-02-07 07:11am
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To believe that a woman has a right to
choose if she wants an abortion, adoption
or to keep the baby without any pressure
or biased opinions from external sources.
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Kypros
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Posted: 11-02-07 12:36pm
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Such an explicit description isn't
necessary; the term pro-choice is simply
"supporting a woman's right to have an
abortion". Don't get carried away with the
choice side of things. I
use pro-choice because of its
established meaning, although I do agree
that there are better words. I would much
prefer pro-abortion and anti-abortion, although
they have negative nuances. Pro-choice and pro-life
are euphemisms intended to neutralise
something that would seem lop-sided (i.e.
pro-death, anti-human as opposed to
[/i]anti-female[/i], anti-freedom).
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Posted: 11-02-07 12:42pm
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| Kypros
wrote: | | Such an explicit description
isn't necessary; the term pro-choice is simply
"supporting a woman's right to have an
abortion". Don't get carried away with the
choice side of things.
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Well, then, you cannot have the other side
called "pro-life". They would have to be
called "anti-choice" only.
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meblonde01
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Posted: 11-02-07 12:59pm
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I think the difinition of pro-choice is:
Not really for abortion, but feel it is
thier body to do as they want to and if
they should choose to abort they have the
right.
This is the feeling I get from most of the
pro-choice people in here.
Because I am pro-life, I can only go from
what pro-choice people say. But here is
what a dictionary says:
Favoring or supporting the legal right of
women and girls to choose whether or not
to continue a pregnancy to term.
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Kypros
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Posted: 11-02-07 13:00pm
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No, the term choice is far too abstract
and nebulous to be utilised, particularly
as both sides would sooner use pro- as
it suggests something positive and neither
viewpoint wants to protray their beliefs
as negative, as making use of anti
would essentially suggest. Secondly,
pro-lifers do support choice in its
literal sense - the choice to have sex,
use protection, and be a mother (they
condone adoption, don't forget).
In theory, pro-abortion and anti-abortion would suffice
as the positivity or negativity of each
term would be in the eyes of the beholder
- does abortion represent something good
or bad? However, it would be silly to
suddenly drop pro-choice and pro-life
in facour of these now as the terms have
both been frivolously bandied about by
each side to give bias to their views.
Thus, as a result, pro-abortion is now
inherently linked to being negative
because pro-life sources use it to
describe pro-choicers, whilst anti-abortion is used by
pro-choicers for the same reasons.
Pro-choice and pro-life
are just euphemisms, at the end of the
day.
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Posted: 11-02-07 13:33pm
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Adherence to a system promoting
autonomous, healthy choices in
reproductive health issues.
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Posted: 11-02-07 14:36pm
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| meblonde01
wrote: |
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women
and girls to choose whether or not to
continue a pregnancy to
term. |
I would say the "supporting.." is correct
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Posted: 11-02-07 15:11pm
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| meblonde01
wrote: | I think the difinition of
pro-choice is:
Not really for abortion, but feel it is
thier body to do as they want to and if
they should choose to abort they have the
right.
This is the feeling I get from most of the
pro-choice people in here.
Because I am pro-life, I can only go from
what pro-choice people say. But here is
what a dictionary says:
Favoring or supporting the legal right of
women and girls to choose whether or not
to continue a pregnancy to
term. |
So meblonde, you are pro-life, does that
mean you want abortion to be illegal?
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meblonde01
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:09pm
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| futureshock
wrote: | | meblonde01
wrote: | I think the difinition of
pro-choice is:
Not really for abortion, but feel it is
thier body to do as they want to and if
they should choose to abort they have the
right.
This is the feeling I get from most of the
pro-choice people in here.
Because I am pro-life, I can only go from
what pro-choice people say. But here is
what a dictionary says:
Favoring or supporting the legal right of
women and girls to choose whether or not
to continue a pregnancy to
term. |
So meblonde, you are pro-life, does that
mean you want abortion to be
illegal? |
That's a tuff one to answer futureshock, I
don't like to think of women getting a
back alley abortion. But on the other
side, I don't like the idea of it being to
easy and taken advantage of. I guess I
would have to say I don't know..
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:11pm
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What do you mean by "taken advantage of"
and "too easy"?
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:13pm
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| AyaMiyaki
wrote: | | What do you mean by "taken
advantage of" and "too
easy"? |
well it has been stated in here some women
don't use birth control and have had
several abortions.. The % is low, but that
is what I mean..
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:18pm
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So do you feel the abortion process should
be made more difficult for all women or
just women who have had multiples? What
about women like Carifairy whose multiple
pregnancies were DESPITE birth control
use? Was she taking advantage? And how do
you tell the difference?
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:24pm
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| AyaMiyaki
wrote: | | So do you feel the abortion
process should be made more difficult for
all women or just women who have had
multiples? What about women like Carifairy
whose multiple pregnancies were DESPITE
birth control use? Was she taking
advantage? And how do you tell the
difference? |
It would be hard, that is why I said I
didn't really know..
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Posted: 11-02-07 20:50pm
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You are contemplating wrecking the lives
of millions of women because you don't
like the actions of a few.
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Roberta777
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On Our Side of the Fence
Posted: 11-02-07 21:17pm
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Respecticing life is just where we are.
I have also been on the receiving end of,
"you could be influencing millions of
women because of your opinion." I hope
that is true. If only one girl stops to
think of the consequencences of abortion
where there are other options.
Then. I hope and absolutely know that we
need better education, better sex
education, but we all pretty much know
that is not going to happen. Parents jump
up and down and scream. Not in front of
my children.
Well, their children are exploring their
own sexuality, like it or not and
sometimes the girl gets stuck with
pregnancy.
Somehow, never see how the boys get stuck.
They just walk away and the girl pays.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 11-02-07 21:31pm
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What consequences of abortion? And what
about the consequences of adoption?
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Roberta777
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There Are Always Consequences
Posted: 11-02-07 21:40pm
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For all of our actions.
I have yet to meet anyone trully qualified
to answer your questions. The greatest
saints who ever lived on this earth had
the same questions and doubts.
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