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conanvette

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Never Had a Girlfriend
Posted: 11-04-07 00:27am

I need to get this off my chest, am 29 year old guy who has never dated in my life. I have always been shy around other people, in fact, as far back as I can remember going back to elementary school. Recently, I had just gotten out of the military about 2 months ago. I remember when I joined 7 years ago thinking that it was going to change my life, you know? Start making friends, learn a career and a trade, travel, and finally get a girlfriend, well all of that never happened. I had been struggling with depression during my whole term, and finally got discharged because of it,, actually they wrote Honorable Dishcharge with a "Personality Disorder" on my 214 when I got out. The fact was, I had become so fed up, doing everything I knew how to do in life, and got little or no result and felt that I was incapatable with the military after 7 years. They made see a psychologist, put me on celexia, etc., now am transitioned back into civilian life.
I don't take the anti-d's anymore, but had recently quit a couple of jobs due to my anxiety around people, which stemed from years of verbal and some physical abuse by my peers in school. I spoke to a female psychiatrist who started asking me all the personal questions as to try to find out why I feel the way I do now which went a little like this:

Doc: So, why did you come to see me today?

Me: Not sure, I just got out of the military, and have already quit two jobs since then.

Doc: Why?

Me: Because I'm not really comfortable around others..never have been

Doc: Have you ever had a gf?

Me: No, I have never dated before

Doc: Are you gay?

At this point, I went from feeling a little ashamed by the nature of this questions, to almost furious when she asked me if I was gay. Am I gay?? I was at the point I could have picked up the couch I was sitting on and smacked her with it. I couldn't believe this person who apparently was going by the text book style of questioning for depressed people as myself, had just try to insuiate that because I am 29 years old, never have dated, never have asked out a girl, don't know what the hell to say to girls, have always have had people as well as authority figures in my life do nothing but tell me to shut up, and never mind the fact that I am attracted to woman and not men,, according to her I must be gay. While maintaining my composure and restoring my anger, I got up, walked to the door, turned around and told her "I'm gay??, well, your'e the reason that they invented twin beds" and walked out.
The only thing I have ever in my life since I was in high school was a girlfriend. I have gone through my life watching as other guys are successful in life,, as though as they were born with a silver spoon in their ass or something, while I just stand back and watch as they get all the women. It really never helped either that I have been an only child.
Through school, I was socially awkward, I never played any sports, was mediocre at best with my academics, and on top of it all,, my mother was overpossesive, nice lady, but really overpossesive, you know, afraid that I'll get hurt if I play football and all that crap. As far as friends, I have never had any,,, I never knew what I have doing wrong for all these years, but when I watch other people co exist and socialize,, it seems to come so natural to them.
SO, with all that said, basically, I would just like some down to earth advice sans the obivous: see a shrink, take pills, etc, because I know the whole f***n world cannot possibly be on wellbutrin and such,, at least for the simple task of going out and meeting/talking to girls, and yes I understand that some people have to take it and they depend on it.
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daffodil67

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Posted: 11-04-07 01:27am

Wow...lot of emotion behind that...I'm so sorry you have had such a hard time. I really am...I was pretty much where you are when I was your age--not the same STUFF going on, but at the same level of frustration, probelms (probably a lot worse, actually...)

Anyway...I have to say, that I think the Dr's question was jsut that--a question. It's kinda the next, first logical step in that line of questions--she doesn't know you, she's trying to get the picture. I mean, it's not that common for a guy not to have had a gf at your age, so she's trying to get an idea why that might be. The most OBVIOUS reason is that a person is gay. That does not mean that you are gay, or even that SHE thinks you are gay or even that you are in ANY way abnormal....but DRs use a process of ruling out the obvious things until they get to what's going on. That's just how it works. If a Dr I dont' know asks me if I'm gay, it's not an indictment.....that's what psychiatrists do. They meet you, talk to you, try to get an idea of who you are, what's bothering you, and how they can best help. It's actually pretty straighforward.

The problem is that THAT WASN'T YOUR PROBLEM...and you have been really bothered by it for a really long time. It sounds to me like you had a LOT invested in that DR's visit--maybe had high expectations--and you were REALLY focused on that one thing. So when she asked you that, instead of being able to say NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, in fact, it's quite a problem that I haven't had a gf, you got upset.

I TOTALLY understand what you mean when you talk about people seeming to socialize and co exist with such ease. I myself find myself scratching my head wondering what the secret is. There's a new sitcom on cbs on mon about these young physics profs, and this last week they went to a party and sat on the couch and observed the "normal" people, trying to figure out how to get in on the social action. I was like "YESSSSS!!!!" Interacting with people in person baffles me somewhat, although you might never know it, as I have honed some pretty good presentaion skills over the years. But I'm not the same as my siblings. They seem to make friends easily and get along much better in the world.

There are several things that coudl be going on here. There is a condition called Asperger's Syndrome. These peeople tend to have difficulty making friends, although they crave friends as much as you and I do. But there are a lot of other things that go along with AS that may not pertain to you, I don't know.

From what you've said here, the most likely thing that I would guess is social anxiety disorder, which IS treated with certain of the antideressants and some therapy. But all in all, I think that would kind of be good news. From what little I know, people with this problem get lots of relief with the proper treatment.

The other thing is that there can be some comfort in figuring out what's actually going on--then you know what to do for it, for one, and also, you can meet other people who have similar issues and talk about how they have overcome obstacles. I personally would encourage you to TRY getting help again. I mean...what are you really going to accomplish on the internet? By walking out on that DR you shut the door on an opportunity for help--and by saying that I'm not indicting you. I jsut mean that if that ONE thing had not happened (if she had not asked that question and you had not had that reaction) your life might be a lot different right now.

Look up AS and Social Anxiety Disorder on the net, maybe, see wha tyou think. It can take a while to get used to the lingo...have you ever looked at the NAMI site? It is for people with problems and their families, very user-friendly.

The LAST thing in the world I want to do is upset you further, but I have a lot of experience with doctors and even a master's in psychology. If my language seems formal and straightforward, that's why. I hope you find what you need. I DO think that if you keep pushing forward, trying to find an answer, and MAYBE keeping a semi, partially open mind about diagnosis and treatment, you can find a lot of relief.

Good luck! I'm curious to know what happens.
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eOns of gREy

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Posted: 11-04-07 19:30pm

i never had a gf, im 15.
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conanvette

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Posted: 11-04-07 22:57pm

Appreciate the support daff, thank you
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Georgia59

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Posted: 11-05-07 10:49am

I want to add- if you aren't really getting along with your doc or psychologist, remember that you are the one paying them and you have every right to go find a different one. Set up a few consults with new psychologists just to see how you get along with them and choose the one you trust. If you don't have a good relationship, it's not going to be helpful.
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marvel

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Posted: 11-05-07 10:55am

What Georgia said.

Additionally, I think that you have to get your anxiety/depression taken care of before you can hope to have a successful relationship with a woman. I normally find that other people can't make depression go away (even if they're the type of person you've always wanted). Only you can do that through your own efforts, whether it be seeing a psychiatrist you really trust... trying different medications... etc. etc.

I wish you luck, my friend!
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~*debby*~

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Posted: 11-06-07 23:14pm

maybe going thru being in the service has been a lot for you and you've had a lot on your plate in the past . How about some just plain old female friends to talk to and become more comfortable with woman in general ?
I added you as a friend so if you ever feel the need to get something off your chest again I'm all ears . Just becautioned I sometimes need to vent myself and I can be a PITA LOL . I'm suffering from depression myself and dealt with lots of (and still am) self esteem issues . I'm thinking I know where your coming from .
Hope things look up for you !!
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void_

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Posted: 12-25-07 01:00am

thank you conanvette. and this site. i have skimmed through the threads.
i realize now there are many people like me. but that doesnt solve anything. that just means i can see into my future.
the solution i must fix my eyes into my ulterior motives. i have to stop dwelling here. they are watching, searching. i cannot be found.
it's natural. it's natural selection.

i know this doesnt make sense but it makes perfect sense to me; i just omitted some words. thnx for letting me vent. i just need closure. i am risking the achievement of my goal by surfing around this topic. so bye.
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