Panic Attacks Can Be Mild And Deadly Posted: 11-20-07 07:58am
Have encountered panic attacks myself
during those presentation of projects and
paperworks back in the tutorial and
graduate courses. But have heard from my
GP before to always take a deep breath
when you are about to hear those
butterflies in stomach. Well it does help
and now i am ever ready confident when
speaking in front of a class or meetings.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 11-27-07 18:21pm
Good advice! Glad it works for you.
I would like to mention though, that for
some people, breathing exercises can bring
on an attack. It's all about what works
for you.
Mild and deadly? Some contradiction in
terms there...
My attacks are of the 'Help me, I'm having
a heart attack!' kind. I have suffered
from these since 1976/77 and no trigger
has yet been identified, no treatment
works except treating the symptoms with
benzodiazepines (alprazolam as
preventative; bromazepam, clonazepam or
diazepam are fastest acting so are useful
to have around for DURING an episode.)
They tried to replace the benzos with
SSRIs but they only made me 100 times
worse and made me totally anxious 100% of
the time, bringing on daily panic attacks,
sometimes twice or thrice. I've been
through the mill; self-medicating to a
stupid degree when I felt my medication
was not sufficient, leading to a spell in
rehab. Benzo withdrawals are so dreadful
that I was hallucinating, feeling electric
shocks, and being under the impression
that I was merely a cartoon character -
AND not getting a wink of sleep for 21
days solid. Madness.
Mild yes, deadly, no - I never knew anyone
die of a panic attack, even though I
myself can not be convinced, during an
attack, that I am NOT dying. And all the
while being quite aware that it IS 'only'
a panic attack. It's one of those things.
You KNOW you're not kicking that bucket,
but nothing and nobody can tell you that
you're not. 12-18mg bromazepam later,
given 10-20 minutes, and I'm fine again.
It is benzodiazepine WITHDRAWALS that are
deadly. Many, many people who took less
than I have died trying to come off benzos
without the proper medical supervision.
The beauty of bromaz, best brand LEXILIUM
by Alkaloid/Roche, is that, though one of
the weaker benzos according to the tables,
it gives you the fastest effect of them
all and the finest calm sedation in the
hour or two after the episode. My
prescribed dosage of 2.5mg alprazolam/day
is just not enough to keep me completely
free of these dreadfully disabling
attacks. And my doctor wants to reduce
that even further, even though I have told
her straight that course of action is a
recipe for disaster because all I will do,
and I KNOW this, is to order up 500 x 2mg
alprazolam from the internet to ensure a
lasting supply (and the temptation to
over-indulge again.) My rehab for
poly-substance dependence advised total
abstinence from all mind-altering
substances; however, that appears not to
be an option for me, and I use 80mg
OxyContin, (I have a spondylo-arthritis),
1050mg carisoprodol, 2.5mg (often more and
a few other benzos too) alprazolam/day,
and one or two nights a week I'll need
15mg Flormidal (midazolam) or 1-2mg
Rohydorm (flunitrazepam) for sleep. The
Rohydorm or Rohypnol, whichever is
prescribed, has the great advantage of
negating the need for a morning alprazolam
due to its very long half-life for a
hypnotic drug. I find that although
midazolam gives a quicker onset of sleep,
flunitrazepam gives a better QUALITY of
sleep and the benefit just mentioned.
DEADLY they may feel, but I haven't
succumbed to an attack in 30 years now;
it's merely the phobia, thanatophobia,
that this condition of mine gives me. Just
don't ever try to stop using this class of
drug suddenly, or deadly it may well be.
Gaucho
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Posted: 01-17-08 18:42pm
You summed up exactly my experience of
panic attacks. You know what it IS but
nothing can dissuade you from feeling you
are about to die / go mad etc.
Every time I have to fly I am reduced to a
quivering mess. I kept failing my driving
test because I could not focus on what the
instructor was telling me to do as I was
expecting death round every corner. At my
worst, I cannot walk down the street in
case I fall off the pavement and go under
a car, or maybe a chimney will fall on my
head, or someone will stab me in passing.
Sometimes a panic attack will come on for
no discernible reason at all. My heart
will flutter, my breathing will be
suspended and I feel as though I am about
to pass out - and then the whole thing
plays itself out to its conclusion:
panting, choking, cold sweat, curling up
into a ball, afraid to look at anyone,
legs like jelly, pins and needles, cramps
... now i know how to stop it, by
breathing into a paper bag, but, like
gauchoamigo, I have had this millstone
round my neck for 40 years and it ain't
gonna go away! I receive no meds for this
as the thought of them can send me off
into another panic.
So it isn't just about feelin embarrassed
about doing a presentation - it can and
does seriously undermine one's quality of
life.
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Nyre
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SOMEONE PLEASE REPLY!! Posted: 03-04-08 03:11am
ITS ACTUALLY 2AM RIGHT N0W ... I JUST HAD
A PANIC ATTACK . ANXIETY ATTACK IM OT EVEN
SURE WHAT THEY AREE !! ITS BEEN 4 YEARS
NOW SINCE I HAVE BEEN GETTING THEM ...
AND THE THING IS ITLL HAPPEN OUT OF NO
WHERE .. EVEN WHEN IM SOOO HAPPY !! ITLL B
ONE STRONNNGGG BEAT AND THAN JUST BEAT
FAST .. AND SOMETIMES ILL GET SHARP PAINS
IN MY CHEST THINKING IM ABOUT TO HAVE A
HEART ATTACK , AND MY THROAT STARTS TO
HURT .. AND MY ARM ... AND I HAVE TO TAKE
A BIG LONG DEEEEEEEPPPPPP BREATH TO MAKE
IT GO AWAY .. BUT IT WILL JUST START BACK
UP AGAIN !! MY FAMILY TELLS ME NOT TO
WORRY AND THAT IM STRESSED OUT AND ITS
JUST ANXIETY .. BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH FOR
ME .. I ACTUALLY HAVENT HAD ONE IN THE
PAST 10 MIN . BUT I FEEL A SLIGHT
DISCOMFORT IN MY CHEST . WHATS WRONG WITH
ME? IM ONLY 17 ( JUST TURNED 17 ) .. THIS
ISNT NORMAL .. IVE BEEN TO THE DOCTORS AND
THEY NEVER TOLD ME I HAD ANXIETY OR
ANYTHING .. I HAD A MRI . AND ECHO ... I
HAD CHEST MONITOR HOOKED UP TO ME ..
SOMETIMES I EVEN THINK IM GOING TO DIE ..
AND THE PAST COUPLE NIGHTS I HAVE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT DYING .. HOW IM GOING TO
DIE ECT. I DNT WANA THINK ABOUT THAT? IM
SCARED TO DRIVE IN CARS .. IM ALWAYS
THINKING THE WORSE... I FEEL LIKE ITS
TAKEN OVER MY LIFE .. I DNT WANT PILLS ..
THEY SCARE ME ... IDK WHAT TO DO . SOMEONE
PLEASE HELP ME FEEL AT EASE !!
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Georgia59
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NOT deadly Posted: 03-18-08 12:16pm
Panic attacks will NOT make you die,
although they very well might make you
feel like you're gonna die. Just remember
that it will pass, and therapy can help
panic attacks!!
Please don't post in all caps
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Posted: 03-18-08 13:50pm
I used to have real bad panic attacks,
woke up in the nite and freaking and
passing and just panicking out of the
blue...my doc prescribed Xanax and it
worked...
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matewzin
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Panic Attacks Posted: 03-28-08 01:02am
I suppose that you are suffering from
panic disorder.This is just my assumption
as you are getting chest pain and
discomfort during night.Why you are afraid
of pills?Please avoid that because they
are the best source to reduce panic
disorders.
http://www.myanxietyattacks.com/anxiety-
disorders/panic-disorder/
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darronb
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Posted: 03-31-08 03:08am
My wife has suffered from panic attacks
for many years now, it got to a stage when
she would cling to me for dear life and
beg me not to go to work and leave her
along.
Now 5 years down the line she is a lot
better, with the right medication and
therapy. What I am trying to say is that
there is light at the end of the tunnel
however dark your life is at the moment.
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pannick attacks Posted: 03-31-08 15:52pm
Hi there Nyre,well its bad i give you
that,but you are not dying ,but what you
are doing is letting fear get a hold of
you,fight back tell your mind its not
real,i joined the Linden method 4years
ago,oh boy did it help,wish id found it
sooner,i am on prozac,and it helps,dont be
affraid your gonna be ok hun xxxxxxx
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Whattodo?
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Posted: 04-15-08 14:06pm
I have suffered from PA's for 8 years, I
always think there is something wrong with
my heart and that i'm about to die, and
then nothing. I have always heard that you
can't die from them.
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flutter's wont stop! Posted: 06-10-08 02:53am
well my anxiety i though was gone but
....it came back! and the symptoms i
forgot how to handle! i was so happy to
get over this i though but i guess i
didn't! well my heart flutters! i noticed
sometimes when iam tired! or when im over
worked! but that recent!cuz ive been
thinkin about the recent death in the
family!"he was really close to me and i
cant stop thinkin about him,i mean the
though tapered alil but i though i was
gettin better i mean i know i did but
these flutters scare me once more! am i
the only one! i must breathe now! oh yea
it also happend when im about to go oin to
a dark room,i can feel it! my body starts
to feel diffrent how i breathe its slow
and i forget to breathe many times! i also
have vein pains!!!! with the fluttering
and leg pain sometimes! im not that scared
well iam but i can manage i will go to the
doctor soon anywayz,last time i went lots
of test done and iam healthly as can be!
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evalii
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flutter's wont stop! Posted: 06-10-08 02:56am
well my anxiety i though was gone but
....it came back! and the symptoms i
forgot how to handle! i was so happy to
get over this i though but i guess i
didn't! well my heart flutters! i noticed
sometimes when iam tired! or when im over
worked! but that recent!cuz ive been
thinkin about the recent death in the
family!"he was really close to me and i
cant stop thinkin about him,i mean the
though tapered alil but i though i was
gettin better i mean i know i did but
these flutters scare me once more! am i
the only one! i must breathe now! oh yea
it also happend when im about to go oin to
a dark room,i can feel it! my body starts
to feel diffrent how i breathe its slow
and i forget to breathe many times! i also
have vein pains!!!! with the fluttering
and leg pain sometimes! im not that scared
well iam but i can manage i will go to the
doctor soon anywayz,last time i went lots
of test done and iam healthly as can be!