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trajedi
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Posted: 12-05-07 17:01pm
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i just found out these tens machines range
from expensive to not expensive...ALso can
they cause any brain damage or promote and
help the brain out?
Do they relax the muscles and increase
blood flow in the area of placing the
deive? for example you have a pinched
nerve, would that increase local blood
flow to that area even tho it is pinched?
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 12-08-07 18:53pm
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http://www.technicaluk.com/t
ens.asp
This article says TENS machine cause brain
damage and theirs doesn't wondering if it
is a reliable machine or anyone has heard
of it before?
(I am not trying to advertise so please
stop taking down my posts... this device i
don't even know if it is safe i just want
to know if someone has used it as they say
not to use it on humans but on the site
humans have used it)
Do tens machines work with compressed tmj
joints which i have?
ALso the problem i have is compressed
nerves is that a form of trigeminal
neuralgia from tmj as the pain is constant
24/7 and things that help it are muscle
relaxants like magnesium and lorezapam...I
need less compression in that area and
putting the tongue on my roof of my mouth
to lubricate the joint exercise seems
futile ...inflammation was terrible 2
weeks ago now that is all gone thanks to
msm and glucosimine with chondoirtin...but
i don't want to keep taking ativan so i
would like to know more alternative
therapies until my joint eventually heals
and doesn't spasm any longer and i can
eventually recapture it without any
tension or it going back out...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-10-07 14:31pm
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that thing about the tens causing brain
damage is a bunch of balogna(i didnt take
down your posts) the tens machine has been
used on humans for a long time. I have no
brain damage and let me tell you ive been
on it more than any person i know.
yes this will work for you. they probably
blasted a poor hampsters brain out by
using to high voltage. if you use a
transformer to tens yea it will kill you
or damage your brain.
that is why you need to use it witth a
doctors supervision. i have a tens unit.
dont go searching for bad things on the
internet because you will find it
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-11-07 20:19pm
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hey i went to see the nueromuscular
dentist today and was told i have a
skeletal problem and that there is nothing
besides surgery that can be done to fix
it. I was told i could attempt a 24 hour
splint but in all honesty was told it
wont work..I have breathing obstruction
apparently which explains my shallow
breath as my bottom jaw is too big for my
top blocking airways. According to the NMD
i will need jaw replacement and they are
going to have to break both bottom and top
jaws as i have more than just tmj. I have
a crossbite and many other problems tmj
being one of them. I was given the name
of a top surgeon from the NMD who is in
the midwest and i am from the eastcoast. I
am really upset about this as i was told
last year i needed invasive surgery and
now apparently according to the nmd you
recommeneded i still do. I don't know what
to do surgery is a last resort but i am
dying here i have no life anymore and
don't want to live. I believe if i never
dislocated my jaw i would be fine but
according to the NMD i would probably have
issues anyway b/c of my underbite and
skeletal problems...I just don't know what
to do..there is no relief for me in sight.

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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-12-07 00:30am
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from what i've read about invasive surgery
i rather just do neuromuscular exercises
and see a chiropractor...the nmd rubbed my
neck and that region was particularly
tense and painful...I'm gonna follow
exercises in a book i have for all the
muscles in the body...I don't believe yet
everything i was told today but if i don't
improve in the next few months after doing
specific exersices in a book i bought for
chronic pain i will know surgery is the
only other option...I also plan on getting
a tens device or that other device..
i pray this helps otherwise i am
screwed...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-12-07 14:15pm
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oh and btw the tens is fda approved--if
surgery is your last option then do it. i
did and it was probably the best decision
that i ever made. make sure that you have
a very good surgeon.
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 12-12-07 17:23pm
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i don't think jaw replacement surgery
would fix my pain problem although it will
probably fix my posture or it could make
it worse...the nmd i saw was more
concerned about my underbite, crossbite
and sleep apnea more than the tmj but jaw
replacement surgery is huge and my only
concern is my pain in my tmj not to fix my
facial appearance which is just a tad
off..I think arthroscopy could solve this
or a tens device..pretty sure the main
problem is a pinched nerve otherwise i
have no complaints but it is huge...the
pain is a 9/10 24/7 right now i feel like
killing myself but i take an ativan and it
helps bring the pain down quite a bit...I
hate taking drugs btw it kills me to take
it...the pain right below my ear is the
only thing that is bugging me and the only
reason why there is pain is from a pinched
nerve still and some pressure or maybe
just all pinching of a nerve i am not
quite sure it is very weird..i feel it all
in my ear think maybe i should get
artrhoscopy so the pinched nerve can be
relieved as it localized in one area..the
surgery you had was non invasive mine
would be complete reconstruction if i were
to get what the she recommended and i am
not into doing such a thing b/c i have
done the research and that surgery has no
guarentees of helping with pain...some
people get it done for cosmetic reasons
and have screwed up pain the rest of their
lives although you are right there are
some great outcomes sometimes but i don't
think i would have a good outcome with my
luck even with the best surgeon...
according to my research the best approach
would be conservative so a less invasive
surgery which is already drastic should be
tried before total reconstruction.
I can live with the bite i have just the
dislocation and the pinching of the nerve
is the problem and arthroscopy is for
that.
http://www.mayoclin
ic.org/tmj/treatment.html
i would probably need something like disk
repositioning something along the lines of
what you got except maybe more invasive
but hopefully not...
on a scale of 1-10 what is your pain level
now and do you think the TENS device will
help with the pinched nerve or possibly
pressure..i wish i were hooked up with one
when i saw the nmd but she stayed with me
a long time and we didn't get into the
tens yet...not sure i'll go back but still
maybe...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-13-07 13:19pm
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the first thing she should have done was
hook you up to the tens. you cant really
tell much unless you do. Mine is about a 3
at present and if i hooked up it would
feel so much better. if i was at 10 it
would probably go downt to 3
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-18-07 20:44pm
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for some reason i can't get rid of the
anxiety that is worse than the pain...Its
not even normal anxiety its like my body
is in fight or flight for no reason b/c
there is compression on the joint
still...How does one get rid of this
without drugs b/c i tried everything but
ativan is the only thing that kills the
pain and rids me of the anxiety and
soothes all the muslces in my body..It's
like telling the body to stay calm when
there is a knife pinching critical nerves
which controls the parasynethic nervous
system...Breathing and digestion are
terrible and so is living like this..
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-23-07 19:04pm
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i started using a pure msm powder and a
glusamine msm cream and there is zero
inflammation...All i have is anxiety that
goes to my stomach and a constant heavy
feeling in my ear and neck...I found out
how to glide my jaw back in place but it
never stays and also i know my whole body
is out of alignment...I should see a
chiropractor probably for this but i am
working on exercises in a book i am
reading on body alignment...I just wish i
didn't have to take ativan to feel
calm...I need the disc to stay in and
regenerete the joint... hopefully i
regnerate it completely within the next
few months so i no longer need a drug for
muscular pain... i tried high dose
magnesium but it doesn't help like
ativan...Maybe i should try taking more
calcium with it...i also got a tdp lamp to
hopefully increase blood circulation in
the joint to heal it faster...
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-25-07 18:29pm
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my joint has been getting thicker b/c of
the supplements and when i put it in place
it snaps louder but i know there is a lot
of deterioration...I still have a pinching
in my ear and my eyes are palpitating on
occasion...I wonder if this can be
solved...Also the postrure exercises i am
doing are starting to work as my shoulders
lift my head up more in only a couple of
days but my fear is i will never get rid
of this tension pain that is centered in
my ear area and completely rid tmj
100%...that nmd is definitely wrong i just
have a dislocated joint and when its in
place i would be fine... I managed to
narrow down the pain to one very small
area rather than bother me on my neck by
correcting my posture...I need to work
more on my breathing exercises i guess as
another stage to recover the joint...the
pain is still 24/7 but its a dull
constant ear pain and pinched nerve so i
guess its somewhat of an improvement
compared to before..
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-27-07 17:36pm
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last night i applied heat to the tmj area
for the first time being microwaved and an
extended period of time at least 30
minutes...i noticed all the pain went away
about 90% and i was able to relax for the
first time in a loong long time...I should
have tried this a long time ago (applying
moist heat that is)..it was better than
ativan...i tried it today but it seems my
stomach muscles weren't able to relax as
much as i got them to relax last night...i
read tmj is connected to the stomach
meridian on various sites and mine are
definitely too tight causing
nautiau...there is still pinching going on
i just hope i can rid the stomach tension
as that is basically the main concern at
this point and i was able to get rid of it
last nite but failed on trying it
today...is there a topical cream that is
able to help the tmj besides a heating
pad? I already use msm/glucosimine cream
but i need something that is able to heat
is like icyhot but isn't toxic...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-28-07 13:27pm
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well--thats good thats why we told you to
do that in the beginning.it really helps.
you could try ben gay.
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trajedi
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Posted: 12-30-07 17:05pm
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whenever i take the supplements my jaw
snaps so much louder particularly
msm...does that mean its healing? I also
heard of another product dmso which is a
very powerful form but more side effects
maybe i should try that...also i feel like
my tmj would be gone 100% if this one
little nerve would stop being pinched...I
am soo close but yet i feel like crap b/c
my stomach is always in a knot from the
pinched nerve and it is definitely my left
eye or eyelid it is messing up...i took an
ativan today b/c i need to eat i need to
gain 10 pounds before school im 140 and im
pretty tall...i take ginger for digestion
but im afraid of stomach or colon cancer
from the stress that this joint is causing
on my body...i have tons of supplements so
hopefully it prevents me from dying...my
spleen is messed up b/c i have holes in my
tongue for going 6 years like this
unknowing of the problem at the time im
really in desperation to fix this
100%...hopefully that tdp lamp gets here
soon so i can at least try something
new...sometimes i feel like taking a pin
so i can jot out the pinched nerve right
below my ear...Man i have come far tho
since 6 months ago at solving this the
pain is down significantly but the
distress isn't...i continue to do the
muscles exercises in a book i have and
they have become much easier b/c my body
is in alignment so much more..
I believe i will cure this thing 100% its
just a matter of more research and trying
a few more things and relying on doctors
is something i no longer do after reading
all the horror stories of what they do
do...NMD probably is the only good doctor
for this or a conservative surgeon but
surgery seems like something that is out
of the question unless somehow they can
guarantee me that it would be fixed... i
will keep updating day to day b/c thats
what i do each day i try to narrow stuff
down to come closer to getting a life
back..
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-31-07 15:05pm
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A surgeon is not allowed to garuntee that
it will fix anything. tmd wont cause
cancer. Its a problem with one joint and
affects only that joint--it can referr
pain but that doesnt meant that there is a
problem with that particular organ. If you
have read horror stories then you havent
read my story.
YOur jaw should not snap at all. no matter
what you are taking.
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: 12-31-07 16:06pm
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the reason my jaw snaps is when it
relocates...otherwise its still dislocated
going in and out but the sound has gotten
much louder...I thought a lot of people
with dislocated jaws or tmj have this
problem...even when i relocate it tho
there is still a lot of tension near the
ear...when i say cancer i mean as a
secondary effect of a poor immune system
due to tmd...basically im worried about my
digestion as for me maybe not others it is
being effected by the tmj and therefore
tmj has a cascading effect on my body
maybe for others they don't tho..i have
been taking pepperment a lot and think it
is working however for the stomach spasms
will keep you posted on it...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-31-07 16:11pm
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tmj does not effect the immune system.
your diet on the other hand may. you cant
blame everything on tmd. all people that
have tmd may not necessarily have jaw
poping. i did for a while and for the
past 5 years i havent yet i have major
problems. Your diet would help with your
digestion as well. you have to have a
healthy well rounded diet.
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trajedi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 12-31-07 16:22pm
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i have a very healthy organic diet and i
don't eat a lot b/c of this condition...a
lot of problems come from tmd and they are
documented..IBS, breathing problems there
are so many nerves in the tmj,,...It
varies from individual to
individual..chronic pain does effect the
immune system.. b/c of the dislocated
joint i have a pinching pain 24/7 that
used to be a stabbing pain..for you tho it
might not be a problem at all depending on
how sensitive the person is to the area
affected...
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 12-31-07 16:24pm
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i do not know of any one that has ibs etc
because of tmd---ive been doing this for
an extremly long time and ive talked to my
docs about this too. they agree with me by
the way.
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trajedi
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Posted: 12-31-07 16:35pm
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maybe it is another cause then i don't
know reeally i still think it is likely
the tmj but since u do know more than most
i will take your word for it...
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